FL_new_jumper 0 #1 November 3, 2011 OK.. so I'm new to the sport.. can't find answers to 2 "dumb" questions... 1. I know the jump plane slows down just before we exit.. but how fast is it going when we jump? 2. Who closes the door? Does it just stay open until the plane lands? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StefB 0 #2 November 3, 2011 1) http://www.diverdriver.com/ 2) The Diverdriver closes the door. Sometimes by steering the plane (e.g. C182), or with a stick-with-loop (e.g. Porter), or with a rope attached to the door (e.g. C208, DO28) or sometimes with a helper (e.g. LET410) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jurgencamps 0 #3 November 3, 2011 Quote1) http://www.diverdriver.com/ 2) The Diverdriver closes the door. Sometimes by steering the plane (e.g. C182), or with a stick-with-loop (e.g. Porter), or with a rope attached to the door (e.g. C208, DO28) or sometimes with a helper (e.g. LET410) or the door stays open. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pirana 0 #4 November 3, 2011 QuoteOK.. so I'm new to the sport.. can't find answers to 2 "dumb" questions... 1. I know the jump plane slows down just before we exit.. but how fast is it going when we jump? 2. Who closes the door? Does it just stay open until the plane lands? 1 - Depends on the winds. Slow enough to allow reasonably comfortable climb-out, fast enough so plane does not stall. Pilot should call out speed over the ground so jumpers can provide proper separation between exiting groups. 2 - Last person out closes the door. Kidding on number two - do not attempt to close the door if you are last out. But seriously, chat with pilot/DZO/instructors where you are being trained." . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 136 #5 November 3, 2011 Quote2 - Last person out closes the door. Kidding on number two - do not attempt to close the door if you are last out. sometimes I do, specially in the cold winter, or if the plane has a long flight after dropping me.scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,450 #6 November 3, 2011 QuoteOK.. so I'm new to the sport.. can't find answers to 2 "dumb" common yet often unasked questions... 1. I know the jump plane slows down just before we exit.. but how fast is it going when we jump? 2. Who closes the door? Does it just stay open until the plane lands? FIFY - The only dumb question is the one you don't ask. It's already been answered, in a Cessna, the pilot skids the plane so that the relative wind brings the door to where he can reach it, or in a bigger plane, there may be a rope rig for the pilot to close it, ir it stays open. There's a thread on here somewhere about the last jumper in an Otter closing the door, and it has a story about the Otter pilot going back to watch the last tandem pair go and then closing it. I looked around a bit but couldn't find it."There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy "~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zlew 0 #7 November 3, 2011 1.- It depends on several things from the aircraft, type of exit, and the pilot. Usually climbout speeds are in the 75 to 100 kts range (give or take). I'm not sure all of the planes actually slow down as much as the stop climbing and pull the power back. I've been in 182's that didn't actually slow the plane down at all. They would pull the power back to reduce the prop blast, but actually descend a little bit to maintain the same airspeed they had during climb. It feels slower (sounds slower too) to the jumper, but from an airspeed over the wings standpoint, the plane is flying the same speed. I've been in larger planes that pull the power back and maintain altitude, and also don't really slow down from their climb airspeed (same speed, less power, no climb, if that makes sense). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brucet7 0 #8 November 3, 2011 My friend with as an observer/picture taker on one of my jumps from an Otter. We put her near the back, seatbelt fastened and all of us left. No one told her that the door would remain open. Pilot banked right and all she saw was ground. Surprised her a little (read a bunch). We laugh about it now.POPS #10623; SOS #1672 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marinus 0 #9 November 3, 2011 Quote FIFY - The only dumb question is the one you don't ask. Can't..... Resist...... OK, so how many feet do you go up after the parachute deploys, and how long do you have to wait with said deployment when you jump from a helicopter, and don't want to end up in the rotor? (I was actually wondering about the doors, btw, so now I know. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 136 #10 November 3, 2011 depends mainly on the type of parachute strings, and the speed you have. When jumping from a helicopter you typically get enough safety distance while reaching said speed.scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bones 0 #11 November 3, 2011 We recently added a remote (basically a rope) door closing device to the Caravan. Interesting to see in action from the outside when I'm following in my wingsuit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GLIDEANGLE 1 #12 November 3, 2011 Quote 1. I know the jump plane slows down just before we exit.. but how fast is it going when we jump? Varies by aircraft. The B-25 Mitchell bomber I jumped out of this summer was hauling ass when we exited. The exits from the tail gunner spot were "sporting". I can't remember if it is the Skyvan or the CASA (both tailgate aircraft) which is famous for having a "brisk" airspeed during exit.The choices we make have consequences, for us & for others! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zlew 0 #13 November 3, 2011 Parachutist had an article on jump run speeds long ago. As I remember the Casa was the fastest, with the skyvan not far behind. Something like 110kts IAS, and talk of actually having to slow down to terminal after exiting. The vids from the b-25 tail exit are pretty sweet! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #14 November 3, 2011 QuoteMy friend with as an observer/picture taker on one of my jumps from an Otter. We put her near the back, seatbelt fastened and all of us left. No one told her that the door would remain open. Pilot banked right and all she saw was ground. Surprised her a little (read a bunch). We laugh about it now. Do you mean "banked left"? It seems like a right bank would have a passenger looking up at the sky, as the door would rotate away from the earth, rather than towards it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marinus 0 #15 November 4, 2011 Quote depends mainly on the type of parachute strings, and the speed you have. When jumping from a helicopter you typically get enough safety distance while reaching said speed. So you're basically saying here that I failed to ask a stupid question..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theonlyski 3 #16 November 4, 2011 Quote Quote My friend with as an observer/picture taker on one of my jumps from an Otter. We put her near the back, seatbelt fastened and all of us left. No one told her that the door would remain open. Pilot banked right and all she saw was ground. Surprised her a little (read a bunch). We laugh about it now. Do you mean "banked left"? It seems like a right bank would have a passenger looking up at the sky, as the door would rotate away from the earth, rather than towards it. Depends how far right he took it. "I may be a dirty pirate hooker...but I'm not about to go stand on the corner." iluvtofly DPH -7, TDS 578, Muff 5153, SCR 14890 I'm an asshole, and I approve this message Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #17 November 4, 2011 Quote Quote FIFY - The only dumb question is the one you don't ask. Can't..... Resist...... OK, so how many feet do you go up after the parachute deploys, and how long do you have to wait with said deployment when you jump from a helicopter, and don't want to end up in the rotor? Never open your rig in the house, you'll got right through the roof! (I was actually wondering about the doors, btw, so now I know. ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thrillstalker 0 #18 November 4, 2011 QuoteQuote1) http://www.diverdriver.com/ 2) The Diverdriver closes the door. Sometimes by steering the plane (e.g. C182), or with a stick-with-loop (e.g. Porter), or with a rope attached to the door (e.g. C208, DO28) or sometimes with a helper (e.g. LET410) or the door stays open. or the last jumper out can close it assuming it is not a tandem. (only seen it done on an otter)."Never grow a wishbone, where your backbone ought to be." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
