VectorBoy 0 #201 October 25, 2003 QuoteBut I guess we're a back woods inbred Kentucky DZ... still writing manifest on paper and working out of a run down trailer. Quote Bet yaw'l got d'baest stomp liquer d'eber wuz! Can I play? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ajmclean 0 #202 October 25, 2003 Wendy, Thank God for parents like you who have their priorities straight! Good for you to put your child first and skydiving second. I laid off for awhile myself but my reasons weren't as noble. I'm back now too, so BLUE SKIES!Mack The Knife "IT IS SAID THAT THE WARRIOR'S IS THE TWOFOLD WAY OF PEN AND SWORD, AND HE SHOULD HAVE A TASTE FOR BOTH WAYS." MIYAMOTO MUSASHI, A BOOK OF FIVE RINGS. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites dgskydive 0 #203 October 26, 2003 ***Neighhhh... thump, thump... neigh, thump, thump. ___________________________________________________________ I am slow. What does that mean? Dom Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Jimbo 0 #204 October 26, 2003 Think dying horse and kicking. - Jim"Like" - The modern day comma Good bye, my friends. You are missed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Tonto 1 #205 October 27, 2003 I didn't call it a jump ticket. Skydivejersey did. tIt's the year of the Pig. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skydivejersey 0 #206 October 27, 2003 These are the requirements from the BPA operations manual. Experience. He/she has at least 100 hours as Pilot in Command (PIC) of aeroplanes if aeroplanes are to be flown by the applicant (except in the case of FAI ‘C’ Certificate (Red) parachutists where the requirement is 75 hours PIC in each case). In addition the following is also required:- a. Less than 150 hours PIC - 10 hours on type b. 150 - 250 hours PIC - 5 hours on type c. Over 250 hours PIC - With the following training. He/she has received at least one hour of ground instruction on parachute dropping techniques, standard procedures and emergency procedures given by at least a BPA Category System Instructor, Team Leader or BPA Pilot Examiner and has studied the BPA Pilot’s Manual Tests. a. Has flown at least three sorties (accompanied and supervised by a BPA Pilot Examiner) as PIC (under supervision) on the type* of aircraft to be used and to include at least one sortie from which a live drop of one or more Experienced Parachutists is carried out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 1,618 #207 October 27, 2003 QuoteThese are the requirements from the BPA operations manual. Experience. He/she has at least 100 hours as Pilot in Command (PIC) of aeroplanes if aeroplanes are to be flown by the applicant (except in the case of FAI ‘C’ Certificate (Red) parachutists where the requirement is 75 hours PIC in each case). In addition the following is also required:- a. Less than 150 hours PIC - 10 hours on type b. 150 - 250 hours PIC - 5 hours on type c. Over 250 hours PIC - With the following training. He/she has received at least one hour of ground instruction on parachute dropping techniques, standard procedures and emergency procedures given by at least a BPA Category System Instructor, Team Leader or BPA Pilot Examiner and has studied the BPA Pilot’s Manual Tests. a. Has flown at least three sorties (accompanied and supervised by a BPA Pilot Examiner) as PIC (under supervision) on the type* of aircraft to be used and to include at least one sortie from which a live drop of one or more Experienced Parachutists is carried out. Does the CAA require BPA rules to be followed? The BPA has no statutory authority over pilots and pilot qualifications, does it, unless that authority is devolved to it by the CAA?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites wildblue 4 #208 October 27, 2003 QuoteNeighhhh... thump, thump... neigh, thump, thump. Dammit Bill, stop stealing my lines! it's like incest - you're substituting convenience for quality Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites happythoughts 0 #209 October 27, 2003 QuoteQuoteNeighhhh... thump, thump... neigh, thump, thump. Dammit Bill, stop stealing my lines! Hey, imitation is the most sincere form of flattery. (Ask anyone doing webpages ) I had made a reference to the dead horse before, your line is exactly perfect. I was trying to re-focus on the topic, the social skills had been kicked enough to get a message. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites dgskydive 0 #210 October 27, 2003 I had to kick it one more time. I had been dying to reply to him all week and couldn't get online and post. Sorry!Dom Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Tonto 1 #211 October 28, 2003 Well. Talk about thread drift. We started with leaving the sport. Then someone showed us why we would want to leave. (and we flogged your horse to death) Now we're talking about pilots, and who rules them, and whether they get paid. And I'm still not leaving the sport. tIt's the year of the Pig. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skydivejersey 0 #212 October 28, 2003 QuoteDoes the CAA require BPA rules to be followed? The BPA has no statutory authority over pilots and pilot qualifications, does it, unless that authority is devolved to it by the CAA? No. This is not a CAA thing. As far as I know the CAA have no minimums or requirements laid down in terms of hours and quals etc (but I may be wrong). The regs above are from the BPA ops manual. The BPA ops manual has to be observed by all BPA Affiliated Drop Zones so it a requirement in that way. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JakGramley 2 #213 October 29, 2003 QuoteHelp me out here Jack Gramley. Tell this youngster how it is! How many days did we sit around Blue Skies and just B.S. around. The best people I have ever met in skydiving where at that DZ. Dom, You had to invite me into this, didn't you. Yep, we had some great times at Blue Skies! Here's a photo of Dom, Angie Gardner and Mike Kallian (right to left) killing time on one of the sofa's, waiting for the weather to clear. Jack Gramley Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JakGramley 2 #214 October 30, 2003 QuoteHelp me out here Jack Gramley. Tell this youngster how it is! How many days did we sit around Blue Skies and just B.S. around. Oh yeah, the other thing we used to love to do was to abuse Dom. Can't remember what the event was, but Dom got his share of pies. Jack Gramley Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites CrazyDave 0 #215 October 31, 2003 i dont want people to leave the sport... it needs people, it needs pro's to pass on the techniques to all us noobs! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites dgskydive 0 #216 October 31, 2003 Oh wow! I haven't seen those in years! Seeing Angie brought a tears to my eyes. I remember that day and exactly what was going on when that pic was taken. That was right before I left Washington in 1996. Actually we had just got down from a jump and Mike and I where sharing our vast knowledge with her! Boy, we where the biggest skygod of all. What we had something like 300 jumps at that time at the most! That was our little "backwards" DZ. OUr home away from home with some of the best people in the world. OUR SKYDIVING FAMLIY! I miss her everyday! I must have blocked out the memory of the second one! I thought I had never been pied!Dom Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites flyinchicken 0 #217 November 1, 2003 QuoteYeah... at least a turbine... otherwhise its not worth it, right? I missssss our otter!!!!!!! However, doing backflips off the strut of our c-182 NEVER ceases to slap a big fat old grin on my face. It IS worth it! "Diligent observation leads to pure abstraction". Lari Pittman Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites elightle 8 #218 December 8, 2011 QuoteWhy do people stop skydiving? Injuries, age, money? These are all factors...just curious to hear reasons you've heard... Left once in 1983 because I didn't want to get sucked into being a skydiver with no other interests/skills/ambitions/goals. Another reason was the cost to compete, which I dearly loved. Thinking about leaving again for some of the same reasons. It's hard when you love something so much but you just can't justify being away from family that much. I should have tried out for the Golden Knights when I was still in the military and had the chance.! It's still hard to be a recreational jumper. Even at my age, I like to challenge myself. Been on scads of pickup 4-way teams but it doesn't do it for me. Can't afford the tunnel trips to compete like I want. Family situation won't allow it either. I love my wife and we're going to adopt a child next year. Hoping I can reach a happy medium with skydiving and life. Danged this conscience! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites matthewcline 0 #219 December 8, 2011 I hear ya! Some of the same reasons why I retired from Instructing and Demo's. I am stepping back to two to four weekends a year, at most. MattAn Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites elightle 8 #220 December 8, 2011 Matt, thanks so much for the comments. Maybe I am not alone in all this after all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skyjumpenfool 2 #221 December 8, 2011 Quote Matt, thanks so much for the comments. Maybe I am not alone in all this after all. I took some time (years ) away from the sport when my kids were young for some of the same reasons you listed above. Now my kids are older and I'm jumping more than ever. You don't have to give up skydiving, you’re allowed to take a break from time to time. Birdshit & Fools Productions "Son, only two things fall from the sky." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Titanman2789 0 #222 December 11, 2011 Since this thread was 'revived' I guess you could say, I'll add to it that it was egos and politics that made me want to leave. Was being paid to jump and quit. I'm tired of the way things were being run. And the egos, my god. Getting yelled at by S&TA for something so minor while they blatantly break rules that they help to make. Unbelievable how stuff works in this sport sometimes. Hopefully a change in scenery - new dz - in the spring will help Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Nightingale 0 #223 December 12, 2011 Wow, reading this was nostalgic. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites elightle 8 #224 December 13, 2011 Quote You don't have to give up skydiving, you’re allowed to take a break from time to time. So true. I'm on my "winter break" now. Can't wait for spring! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites anj4de 0 #225 December 25, 2011 Quote Quote You don't have to give up skydiving, you’re allowed to take a break from time to time. So true. I'm on my "winter break" now. Can't wait for spring! Same here...winter really sucks...! I left the sport in 87...life simply got in the way...but the brain was always sort of connected to it still. A couple of years ago I started to get those very real dreams, I could hear the engine sound, smell the jet fuel, saw myself in the middle of the crowd entering the plane, then woke up and was mentally destroyed. Last May I decided I had to do it again...and now I am happy. Will carry on doing it as long as health and money allow it! Blue skies UweFor once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return. -Leonardo da Vinci Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Next Page 9 of 10 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. 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ajmclean 0 #202 October 25, 2003 Wendy, Thank God for parents like you who have their priorities straight! Good for you to put your child first and skydiving second. I laid off for awhile myself but my reasons weren't as noble. I'm back now too, so BLUE SKIES!Mack The Knife "IT IS SAID THAT THE WARRIOR'S IS THE TWOFOLD WAY OF PEN AND SWORD, AND HE SHOULD HAVE A TASTE FOR BOTH WAYS." MIYAMOTO MUSASHI, A BOOK OF FIVE RINGS. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dgskydive 0 #203 October 26, 2003 ***Neighhhh... thump, thump... neigh, thump, thump. ___________________________________________________________ I am slow. What does that mean? Dom Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimbo 0 #204 October 26, 2003 Think dying horse and kicking. - Jim"Like" - The modern day comma Good bye, my friends. You are missed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonto 1 #205 October 27, 2003 I didn't call it a jump ticket. Skydivejersey did. tIt's the year of the Pig. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydivejersey 0 #206 October 27, 2003 These are the requirements from the BPA operations manual. Experience. He/she has at least 100 hours as Pilot in Command (PIC) of aeroplanes if aeroplanes are to be flown by the applicant (except in the case of FAI ‘C’ Certificate (Red) parachutists where the requirement is 75 hours PIC in each case). In addition the following is also required:- a. Less than 150 hours PIC - 10 hours on type b. 150 - 250 hours PIC - 5 hours on type c. Over 250 hours PIC - With the following training. He/she has received at least one hour of ground instruction on parachute dropping techniques, standard procedures and emergency procedures given by at least a BPA Category System Instructor, Team Leader or BPA Pilot Examiner and has studied the BPA Pilot’s Manual Tests. a. Has flown at least three sorties (accompanied and supervised by a BPA Pilot Examiner) as PIC (under supervision) on the type* of aircraft to be used and to include at least one sortie from which a live drop of one or more Experienced Parachutists is carried out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,618 #207 October 27, 2003 QuoteThese are the requirements from the BPA operations manual. Experience. He/she has at least 100 hours as Pilot in Command (PIC) of aeroplanes if aeroplanes are to be flown by the applicant (except in the case of FAI ‘C’ Certificate (Red) parachutists where the requirement is 75 hours PIC in each case). In addition the following is also required:- a. Less than 150 hours PIC - 10 hours on type b. 150 - 250 hours PIC - 5 hours on type c. Over 250 hours PIC - With the following training. He/she has received at least one hour of ground instruction on parachute dropping techniques, standard procedures and emergency procedures given by at least a BPA Category System Instructor, Team Leader or BPA Pilot Examiner and has studied the BPA Pilot’s Manual Tests. a. Has flown at least three sorties (accompanied and supervised by a BPA Pilot Examiner) as PIC (under supervision) on the type* of aircraft to be used and to include at least one sortie from which a live drop of one or more Experienced Parachutists is carried out. Does the CAA require BPA rules to be followed? The BPA has no statutory authority over pilots and pilot qualifications, does it, unless that authority is devolved to it by the CAA?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildblue 4 #208 October 27, 2003 QuoteNeighhhh... thump, thump... neigh, thump, thump. Dammit Bill, stop stealing my lines! it's like incest - you're substituting convenience for quality Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #209 October 27, 2003 QuoteQuoteNeighhhh... thump, thump... neigh, thump, thump. Dammit Bill, stop stealing my lines! Hey, imitation is the most sincere form of flattery. (Ask anyone doing webpages ) I had made a reference to the dead horse before, your line is exactly perfect. I was trying to re-focus on the topic, the social skills had been kicked enough to get a message. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dgskydive 0 #210 October 27, 2003 I had to kick it one more time. I had been dying to reply to him all week and couldn't get online and post. Sorry!Dom Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonto 1 #211 October 28, 2003 Well. Talk about thread drift. We started with leaving the sport. Then someone showed us why we would want to leave. (and we flogged your horse to death) Now we're talking about pilots, and who rules them, and whether they get paid. And I'm still not leaving the sport. tIt's the year of the Pig. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydivejersey 0 #212 October 28, 2003 QuoteDoes the CAA require BPA rules to be followed? The BPA has no statutory authority over pilots and pilot qualifications, does it, unless that authority is devolved to it by the CAA? No. This is not a CAA thing. As far as I know the CAA have no minimums or requirements laid down in terms of hours and quals etc (but I may be wrong). The regs above are from the BPA ops manual. The BPA ops manual has to be observed by all BPA Affiliated Drop Zones so it a requirement in that way. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JakGramley 2 #213 October 29, 2003 QuoteHelp me out here Jack Gramley. Tell this youngster how it is! How many days did we sit around Blue Skies and just B.S. around. The best people I have ever met in skydiving where at that DZ. Dom, You had to invite me into this, didn't you. Yep, we had some great times at Blue Skies! Here's a photo of Dom, Angie Gardner and Mike Kallian (right to left) killing time on one of the sofa's, waiting for the weather to clear. Jack Gramley Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JakGramley 2 #214 October 30, 2003 QuoteHelp me out here Jack Gramley. Tell this youngster how it is! How many days did we sit around Blue Skies and just B.S. around. Oh yeah, the other thing we used to love to do was to abuse Dom. Can't remember what the event was, but Dom got his share of pies. Jack Gramley Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CrazyDave 0 #215 October 31, 2003 i dont want people to leave the sport... it needs people, it needs pro's to pass on the techniques to all us noobs! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dgskydive 0 #216 October 31, 2003 Oh wow! I haven't seen those in years! Seeing Angie brought a tears to my eyes. I remember that day and exactly what was going on when that pic was taken. That was right before I left Washington in 1996. Actually we had just got down from a jump and Mike and I where sharing our vast knowledge with her! Boy, we where the biggest skygod of all. What we had something like 300 jumps at that time at the most! That was our little "backwards" DZ. OUr home away from home with some of the best people in the world. OUR SKYDIVING FAMLIY! I miss her everyday! I must have blocked out the memory of the second one! I thought I had never been pied!Dom Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyinchicken 0 #217 November 1, 2003 QuoteYeah... at least a turbine... otherwhise its not worth it, right? I missssss our otter!!!!!!! However, doing backflips off the strut of our c-182 NEVER ceases to slap a big fat old grin on my face. It IS worth it! "Diligent observation leads to pure abstraction". Lari Pittman Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
elightle 8 #218 December 8, 2011 QuoteWhy do people stop skydiving? Injuries, age, money? These are all factors...just curious to hear reasons you've heard... Left once in 1983 because I didn't want to get sucked into being a skydiver with no other interests/skills/ambitions/goals. Another reason was the cost to compete, which I dearly loved. Thinking about leaving again for some of the same reasons. It's hard when you love something so much but you just can't justify being away from family that much. I should have tried out for the Golden Knights when I was still in the military and had the chance.! It's still hard to be a recreational jumper. Even at my age, I like to challenge myself. Been on scads of pickup 4-way teams but it doesn't do it for me. Can't afford the tunnel trips to compete like I want. Family situation won't allow it either. I love my wife and we're going to adopt a child next year. Hoping I can reach a happy medium with skydiving and life. Danged this conscience! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matthewcline 0 #219 December 8, 2011 I hear ya! Some of the same reasons why I retired from Instructing and Demo's. I am stepping back to two to four weekends a year, at most. MattAn Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
elightle 8 #220 December 8, 2011 Matt, thanks so much for the comments. Maybe I am not alone in all this after all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyjumpenfool 2 #221 December 8, 2011 Quote Matt, thanks so much for the comments. Maybe I am not alone in all this after all. I took some time (years ) away from the sport when my kids were young for some of the same reasons you listed above. Now my kids are older and I'm jumping more than ever. You don't have to give up skydiving, you’re allowed to take a break from time to time. Birdshit & Fools Productions "Son, only two things fall from the sky." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Titanman2789 0 #222 December 11, 2011 Since this thread was 'revived' I guess you could say, I'll add to it that it was egos and politics that made me want to leave. Was being paid to jump and quit. I'm tired of the way things were being run. And the egos, my god. Getting yelled at by S&TA for something so minor while they blatantly break rules that they help to make. Unbelievable how stuff works in this sport sometimes. Hopefully a change in scenery - new dz - in the spring will help Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nightingale 0 #223 December 12, 2011 Wow, reading this was nostalgic. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
elightle 8 #224 December 13, 2011 Quote You don't have to give up skydiving, you’re allowed to take a break from time to time. So true. I'm on my "winter break" now. Can't wait for spring! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anj4de 0 #225 December 25, 2011 Quote Quote You don't have to give up skydiving, you’re allowed to take a break from time to time. So true. I'm on my "winter break" now. Can't wait for spring! Same here...winter really sucks...! I left the sport in 87...life simply got in the way...but the brain was always sort of connected to it still. A couple of years ago I started to get those very real dreams, I could hear the engine sound, smell the jet fuel, saw myself in the middle of the crowd entering the plane, then woke up and was mentally destroyed. Last May I decided I had to do it again...and now I am happy. Will carry on doing it as long as health and money allow it! Blue skies UweFor once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return. -Leonardo da Vinci Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
