jakee 1,343 #26 September 11 46 minutes ago, winsor said: If nothing else, Truman, Carter, Ford and likely Eisenhower (the rumors of dalliance with Kay Somersby turn out to be unfounded) appear to have been faithful husbands, and I value highly someone whose vows are not negotiable. Well, ok, except not in the sense that you think it actually matters. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,264 #27 September 11 1 hour ago, winsor said: Who made that claim? As I recall, nobody bats a thousand. It does not detract the least from someone's accomplishments to make note of their failures. Truman had a hell of a lot dropped in his lap when he became president, partially because he wasn't in the loop on much of any of FDR's planning. The fact that he did as well as he did is impressive. I do not claim to have extensive knowledge of the history of Southeast Asia, but I agree with the assessment of Generals James Gavin and S. L. A. Marshall, two particularly brilliant officers, taking whose advice would have avoided endless heartache and bloodshed. That failure was on Kennedy. A study of History reveals that hindsight is anything but 20/20. Much of what constitutes "common knowledge" is entirely wrong. If nothing else, Truman, Carter, Ford and likely Eisenhower (the rumors of dalliance with Kay Somersby turn out to be unfounded) appear to have been faithful husbands, and I value highly someone whose vows are not negotiable. Hi winsor, Re: That failure was on Kennedy. Monday morning quarterbacking is always spot on. Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 220 #28 September 11 21 minutes ago, JerryBaumchen said: Hi winsor, Re: That failure was on Kennedy. Monday morning quarterbacking is always spot on. Jerry Baumchen Perhaps, but Barbara Tuchman, who worked for JFK, took him to task for continuing US presence in the conflict so that withdrawal would take place after he won reelection. In her book "the march of folly from troy to vietnam," she detailed his calculus whereby it was worth losing a few troops to avoid campaigning as the first president to lose a war. LBJ was not in the Massachusetts inner circle, so when he took over he doubled down. "I don't want no damned Dinbinfoo!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,264 #29 September 23 Hi folks, A perfect example: Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
