JoeWeber 2,567 #76 September 5 16 minutes ago, SkyDekker said: Irrelevant for some apparently. He seems rather intelligent, I’m surprised he doesn’t see that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nigel99 293 #77 September 5 Liz Cheney has endorsed Harris. I wonder if Harris has set a record for prominent figures in the opposing party endorsing them? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 222 #78 September 5 1 hour ago, SkyDekker said: Irrelevant for some apparently. Juanita Broaddrick sure as hell wasn't. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,314 #79 September 5 Let's bring this back to praise for Kamala Harris Wendy P. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Erroll 75 #80 September 6 On 9/5/2024 at 2:14 AM, nigel99 said: Liz Cheney has endorsed Harris. Kamala Harris indicated recently that she would be open to having a Republican in her cabinet. Appointing Liz Cheney would really annoy Trump and the rest of Maga/GOP. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,553 #81 September 6 32 minutes ago, Erroll said: Kamala Harris indicated recently that she would be open to having a Republican in her cabinet. Appointing Liz Cheney would really annoy Trump and the rest of Maga/GOP. I want to see Cheney and Kinzinger in her cabinet. I love what he says about courage in this brief clip: 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,344 #82 September 6 3 hours ago, ryoder said: I want to see Cheney and Kinzinger in her cabinet. I love what he says about courage in this brief clip: It is worth remembering that, aside from having a functioning sense of honor and duty to the country and Constitution, Liz Cheney's political views are anathema to any vaguely leftist or centrist government. She's significantly more hardline than Attila the Hun. She makes Margaret Thatcher look like that hippy chick you hooked up with at a Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament rally in the '70s. The fact that she's not willing to help overthrow a duly elected government in order to impose her policies on a nation that didn't vote for them really should be more of a 'bare minimum expectation' thing. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,314 #83 September 6 1 hour ago, jakee said: It is worth remembering that, aside from having a functioning sense of honor and duty to the country and Constitution, Liz Cheney's political views are anathema to any vaguely leftist or centrist government. She's significantly more hardline than Attila the Hun. She makes Margaret Thatcher look like that hippy chick you hooked up with at a Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament rally in the '70s. The fact that she's not willing to help overthrow a duly elected government in order to impose her policies on a nation that didn't vote for them really should be more of a 'bare minimum expectation' thing. That makes her a valuable adviser; not the primary, but definitely an opposing opinion. Because the President should be paying attention to people representing a variety of viewpoints. The country is too big and diverse simply to impose a particular political viewpoint on it (that's what Project 2025 is all about, and we don't want to go down that path either). Wendy P. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,567 #84 September 6 32 minutes ago, wmw999 said: That makes her a valuable adviser; not the primary, but definitely an opposing opinion. Because the President should be paying attention to people representing a variety of viewpoints. The country is too big and diverse simply to impose a particular political viewpoint on it (that's what Project 2025 is all about, and we don't want to go down that path either). Wendy P. Ya’ right, and that’s just what they’re thinking. Me, I’m ready to do some serious ignoring and imposing just like they’ve been doing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,734 #85 September 6 2 hours ago, jakee said: It is worth remembering that, aside from having a functioning sense of honor and duty to the country and Constitution, Liz Cheney's political views are anathema to any vaguely leftist or centrist government. That's OK. No one needs to put her in charge of Health and Human Services. Perhaps deputy secretary of commerce? That gives her some input without the ability to do much damage. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,271 #86 September 6 (edited) Hi folks, Not looking so good for The Art of the Deal guy: they believe a Harris administration can better nurture the private sector. Dozens of business leaders endorse Kamala Harris for president | CNN Business Jerry Baumchen PS) And this makes it even sweeter: Kamala Harris’ political operation raises $361 million in August – nearly tripling Donald Trump’s haul | CNN Politics Edited September 6 by JerryBaumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,553 #87 September 6 Harris just got another endorsement! Dick Cheney says he’s voting for Harris in November and Trump ‘can never be trusted with power again’ 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,314 #88 September 6 1 minute ago, ryoder said: Harris just got another endorsement! Dick Cheney says he’s voting for Harris in November and Trump ‘can never be trusted with power again’ That’s kind of like Luke Skywalker learning Darth Vader is his father… Wendy P. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,567 #89 September 6 37 minutes ago, ryoder said: Harris just got another endorsement! Dick Cheney says he’s voting for Harris in November and Trump ‘can never be trusted with power again’ Well, if anyone could know a complete asshole when he sees one Dick Cheney is a stand out for sure. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nigel99 293 #90 September 6 We have all these groups of …. For Harris. Now that Dick Cheney has endorsed her and Pence says he isn’t voting for Trump we need a Republican VP’s for Harris group. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,553 #91 September 6 1 hour ago, JoeWeber said: Well, if anyone could know a complete asshole when he sees one Dick Cheney is a stand out for sure. I miss the good old days when the neo-cons were the worst the GOP had to offer. :-( 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,462 #92 September 7 4 hours ago, wmw999 said: That’s kind of like Luke Skywalker learning Darth Vader is his father… Wendy P. Ummm... We already knew that Darth Cheney is Liz's father. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 222 #93 September 8 Since the US Gov't is in debt to the tune of a third of a million dollars per taxpayer, we need a different kind of leader going forward. Business as usual is simply not an option. Venezuela had Hugo Chavez (peace be upon him) and we have Harris to transform our economy. We have not seen such social equality since the '30s, which will henceforth be known as they 'Pretty Good Depression.' Vote Democrat for change! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,099 #94 September 8 34 minutes ago, winsor said: Vote Democrat for change! Out of the darkness and into the light. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,822 #95 September 8 49 minutes ago, winsor said: Vote Democrat for change! I'm not particularly keen on Harris, but she is by far the lesser of two evils. Your repeated equivalencing of Harris with Trump is like equivalencing G.W. Bush with Saddam Hussein. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,462 #96 September 8 26 minutes ago, kallend said: I'm not particularly keen on Harris, but she is by far the lesser of two evils. Your repeated equivalencing of Harris with Trump is like equivalencing G.W. Bush with Saddam Hussein. He doesn't think Harris is the equivalent of Trumpty Dumpty. He thinks she's worse. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 1,078 #97 September 8 1 hour ago, winsor said: Since the US Gov't is in debt to the tune of a third of a million dollars per taxpayer, we need a different kind of leader going forward. Business as usual is simply not an option. Venezuela had Hugo Chavez (peace be upon him) and we have Harris to transform our economy. We have not seen such social equality since the '30s, which will henceforth be known as they 'Pretty Good Depression.' Vote Democrat for change! In order for the elite to save the poor tax cuts are necessary. Corporations and billionaires need tax cuts. The additional trillions in debt will be spread to every taxpayer ensuring equality for all. As the elites and rich get richer they will drag the poor into the middle classes. Executive jets and luxury yachts need mechanics and stewards. Which are well paying jobs for the average peasant. AI and climate change will have huge detrimental effects on the rich. More storms will require larger yachts for stability. Hence more investments in longer vessels and more jobs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,567 #98 September 8 2 hours ago, winsor said: Since the US Gov't is in debt to the tune of a third of a million dollars per taxpayer, we need a different kind of leader going forward. Business as usual is simply not an option. Venezuela had Hugo Chavez (peace be upon him) and we have Harris to transform our economy. We have not seen such social equality since the '30s, which will henceforth be known as they 'Pretty Good Depression.' Vote Democrat for change! Same song, different lyrics, still boring. It's Trump or Harris and Trump, by any measure, is a vastly larger risk. She'll have a cabinet, advisors, and probably a Republican House and Senate: no need to oil the doomsday machine. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 222 #99 September 8 1 hour ago, kallend said: I'm not particularly keen on Harris, but she is by far the lesser of two evils. Your repeated equivalencing of Harris with Trump is like equivalencing G.W. Bush with Saddam Hussein. I don't dispute that he is entirely odious. My issue is with results. If the political and economic damage inflicted by either was identical, Harris would be greatly preferable. Unfortunately, the Gov't debt/GDP ratio is beyond the tipping point and all Harris has to offer is feasting on the seed corn. I assure you that I despise Trump. There is, however, the he remote possibility that his self serving nature will help to mitigate the inevitable disaster that is unfolding. We're screwed either way, but with Harris it's 100%. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 222 #100 September 8 6 minutes ago, JoeWeber said: Same song, different lyrics, still boring. It's Trump or Harris and Trump, by any measure, is a vastly larger risk. She'll have a cabinet, advisors, and probably a Republican House and Senate: no need to oil the doomsday machine. I agree that gridlock is the ideal outcome. As I said before, having Harris allow the Republicans to detox from Trump is a good thing, but from a management standpoint she is sure to fuck up everything she touches. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites