jakee 1,380 #51 August 18 3 hours ago, brenthutch said: Price controls? Yeah that’s worked real well every time. Sounds more like Venezuela or Cuba. https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/columnist/2024/08/16/harris-economic-plan-price-controls-inflation/74825199007/ But they are similar in a way that does not involve the socialism that those countries are known for, because Harris is not a socialist? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,337 #52 August 18 3 minutes ago, jakee said: I think you denied a comparison of how countries with policies similar to Harris’s are doing because they weren’t really socialist. That’s “plausible deniability.” Don’t actually say anything specific enough, so you can always say you meant something else. Wendy P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,857 #53 August 18 Trump repeatedly criticizes and insults Harris, so calling out Trump's lying ass IS on topic. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 423 #54 August 18 13 minutes ago, jakee said: I think you denied a comparison of how countries with policies similar to Harris’s are doing because they weren’t really socialist. You didn’t think, you guessed…and you guessed wrong. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,337 #55 August 18 Bring Me A Rock 22 minutes ago, brenthutch said: You didn’t think, you guessed…and you guessed wrong. Will you enlighten us as to what you meant, or do we keep playing Bring Me A Rock? Wendy P. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,380 #56 August 18 (edited) 44 minutes ago, brenthutch said: You didn’t think, you guessed…and you guessed wrong. No, you literally did do that. You often seem to forget that the things you say on this site remain written down to see. Now what about this non-socialist price control policy from non-socialist Kamala Harris that reminds you so much of socialist Cuba? Why is that? Edited August 18 by jakee Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,617 #57 August 18 5 hours ago, brenthutch said: In just saying the average American was better off during the Trump administration than during the Biden administration. Inflation, high interest rates, record credit card debt, out of control border, record number of fentanyl deaths, wars raging around the world and a senile old man in the White House possibly being replaced by a cackling hyena who can’t read a teleprompter, or do a press conference. Yes, I get it…orange man bad, but no worse than our alternative. The average American has no clue what drives those things and, seemingly, neither do you. So forgive me if I take a pass on their opinions and your hypocrisy over ad hominem attacks in calling Vice President Harris a "cackling hyena". I am of the opinion she's being smart not doing press conferences or any interviews with any brand of press. Not because any failings of hers that might be exposed but because the media is a damn joke across the spectrum who are only interested in gotcha's and eyeballs. If I'm Harris's team I'd be telling ABC they're getting one chance to be professional journalists at the debate and if they screw it up to expect nothing afterwards. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,311 #58 August 18 47 minutes ago, JoeWeber said: The average American has no clue what drives those things and, seemingly, neither do you. So forgive me if I take a pass on their opinions and your hypocrisy over ad hominem attacks in calling Vice President Harris a "cackling hyena". I am of the opinion she's being smart not doing press conferences or any interviews with any brand of press. Not because any failings of hers that might be exposed but because the media is a damn joke across the spectrum who are only interested in gotcha's and eyeballs. If I'm Harris's team I'd be telling ABC they're getting one chance to be professional journalists at the debate and if they screw it up to expect nothing afterwards. Hi Joe, Re: the media is a damn joke across the spectrum who are only interested in gotcha's and eyeballs. I could not agree anymore. This along with BREAKING NEWS, the media has become a joke in this country. For some real insight, just take 30 minutes & watch WASHINGTON WEEK. I try to watch it every week. Much better than the 'gotchas.' Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
olofscience 464 #59 August 18 2 hours ago, wmw999 said: Bring Me A Rock Will you enlighten us as to what you meant, or do we keep playing Bring Me A Rock? Wendy P. ...and he says he's not a troll Ask him if he knows what the "free markets" did when Liz Truss in the UK tried to lower taxes without balancing the budget. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
obelixtim 147 #60 August 18 And as for socialism/communism, the country most closely aligned with pure communism would be.......Switzerland. Government by the people, for the people. The people get to vote on almost every policy, and the vote is binding. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 735 #61 August 18 20 hours ago, nigel99 said: Back in 2010 people were only just coming to terms with cloud storage and I’m pretty sure your average punter couldn’t even explain it coherently today or understand how it really works. Without watching the full context of the video, I will withhold judgement as to whether she didn’t understand it or was simplifying it for the sake of the discussion. It sounds like it was a talk on the legal landscape and therefore probably not the place for a highly technical discussion. I’d love to see the OP explain it in lay terms to us in less than 2 minutes. In reality I think even people like normiss may struggle (not knocking your skills Mark!) On the same note I really doubt the OP understands what a policy is, or could coherently explain it. Internet connected physical storage facilities. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 423 #62 August 18 33 minutes ago, obelixtim said: And as for socialism/communism, the country most closely aligned with pure communism would be.......Switzerland. Government by the people, for the people. The people get to vote on almost every policy, and the vote is binding. That would be a plebiscitary. Read a book Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
obelixtim 147 #63 August 18 1 hour ago, brenthutch said: That would be a plebiscitary. Read a book I've spent a bit of time in Switzerland. I know how their political system works. The people rule. Not some dictator like N Korea, or military dictatorship like most of your examples of "socialist" countries. True communism isn't practised in places like Cuba, for example. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,857 #64 August 19 As Harry Lime says in The Third Man: In Italy for 30 years under the Borgias they had warfare, terror, murder, and bloodshed, but they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci, and the Renaissance. In Switzerland they had brotherly love - they had 500 years of democracy and peace, and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,857 #65 August 19 14 hours ago, JoeWeber said: The average American . . . . The "Average American" is female. Women lost more rights thanks to Trump than at any time in the past 100 years. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,617 #66 August 19 1 hour ago, kallend said: The "Average American" is female. Women lost more rights thanks to Trump than at any time in the past 100 years. The predominant American is female, the average American thinks Kung Pao Chicken is authentic Chinese food. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
okalb 100 #67 August 19 15 hours ago, normiss said: Internet connected physical storage facilities. The cloud is just someone else's computer 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,779 #68 August 19 18 hours ago, brenthutch said: That would be a plebiscitary. Read a book Given that you have taken this thread into the direction of arguing over socialism I will take the ON TOPIC mark off. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,481 #69 August 19 2 hours ago, billvon said: Given that you have taken this thread into the direction of arguing over socialism I will take the ON TOPIC mark off. Shouldn't he get a warning for ignoring the 'on topic' thing? 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 735 #70 August 19 9 minutes ago, wolfriverjoe said: Shouldn't he get a warning for ignoring the 'on topic' thing? Warnings and timeouts seem to be as much a reward to trolls as death is to jebus freaks. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,116 #71 August 19 15 minutes ago, normiss said: Warnings and timeouts seem to be as much a reward to trolls as death is to jebus freaks. We do not see what sanctions have been imposed. Going off topic is not a mortal sin, only a venial one. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,617 #72 August 19 14 minutes ago, gowlerk said: We do not see what sanctions have been imposed. Going off topic is not a mortal sin, only a venial one. Who even cares? It's that or start a new thread to not follow. More useful and fun would be knowing who is blocking whom. Apparently not even the Mod's know that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,116 #73 August 19 2 hours ago, JoeWeber said: Who even cares? It's that or start a new thread to not follow. More useful and fun would be knowing who is blocking whom. Apparently not even the Mod's know that. I have accumulated eleven names total on my ignore list. Only one of which is someone who actually still posts here. You? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,319 #74 August 19 13 minutes ago, gowlerk said: I have accumulated eleven names total on my ignore list. Only one of which is someone who actually still posts here. You? None, ever. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
richravizza 27 #75 August 19 (edited) On 8/18/2024 at 7:59 AM, brenthutch said: You didn’t think, you guessed…and you guessed wrong. It's ok to admit to doing that on occasion. It sb celebrated though, a new order, We are Unburdened by what has been,we are free to fail upward,unburdened by the past and what has been.LOL Like a delegate count on one hand... if there are no fingers LOL I'm going to re; the above language sounds vaguely familiar,I believe Winsor's statement was a bullseye to its origins. Enjoy! elons repost view numbers are "weird" LOL https://x.com/MrReaganUSA/status/1816826660089733492 I forgot the Libertarians view, Edited August 19 by richravizza Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites