Tim Walz

[gowlerk 2,095]

Ok, this guy is the most unlikely superstar ever. I mean I knew about him because I spend a fair amount of time in MN and MPR is my go to station. But this is priceless. It's past time we had a thread about this man.

https://x.com/traecrowder/status/1821272795487367434

Edited August 8 by gowlerk

[ryoder 1,546]

Heather Cox Richardson's most recent daily letter gave a background on Walz:

https://heathercoxrichardson.substack.com/p/august-6-2024

 

[JerryBaumchen 1,260]

1 hour ago, gowlerk said:

Ok, this guy is the most unlikely superstar ever. I mean I knew about him because I spend a fair amount of time in MN and MPR is my go to station. But this is priceless. It's past time we had a thread about this man.

https://x.com/traecrowder/status/1821272795487367434

Hi Ken,

That he definitely is.

I received this today:

I’d rather be known as “TamponTim“ for providing free period products in schools, than known as “MaxipadDon“ for wearing one on the side of my face.

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 Which graphic designer is going to get on a “Tampon Tim stops the Red Wave” t-shirt for me?

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 Hey Minnesota,

Thanks for loaning us your dad. Some of us have been stuck with a deadbeat for as long as we can remember.

Love,

Texas

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 Kamala and Tim being running mates feels like Mom and Dad are coming into school to deal with the bully situation.

Jerry Baumchen

 

[kallend 1,822]

So Cadet Bone Spurs, who knows more about military matters than his generals, is now attacking Walz's military record.

Somehow I think that will backfire.

[billeisele 130]

1 hour ago, kallend said:

So Cadet Bone Spurs, who knows more about military matters than his generals, is now attacking Walz's military record.

Somehow I think that will backfire.

Not according to those that deployed to Iraq when Tim left the service. No clue if the initial reports are accurate. The political jabs are always suspect.

The accounts from those that were in his unit are more believable and they aren't good. The "stolen valor" accusations will be a problem if they are accurate.

[gowlerk 2,095]

2 minutes ago, billeisele said:

Not according to those that deployed to Iraq when Tim left the service. No clue if the initial reports are accurate. The political jabs are always suspect.

The accounts from those that were in his unit are more believable and they aren't good. The "stolen valor" accusations will be a problem if they are accurate.

Your team is going to try to swift boat him? Good luck with that!

[wmw999 2,311]

17 minutes ago, billeisele said:

Not according to those that deployed to Iraq when Tim left the service. No clue if the initial reports are accurate. The political jabs are always suspect.

The accounts from those that were in his unit are more believable and they aren't good. The "stolen valor" accusations will be a problem if they are accurate.

They didn't know that Walz put in his retirement papers months before the deployment decision. And he was a Command Sgt Major, but was told that to make it permanent he had to take a leadership class. Since he'd already decided to retire (he wanted to run for office, and couldn't run for office while in the Guard), he didn't do the school.

Wendy P.

[okalb 96]

49 minutes ago, wmw999 said:

They didn't know that Walz put in his retirement papers months before the deployment decision. And he was a Command Sgt Major, but was told that to make it permanent he had to take a leadership class. Since he'd already decided to retire (he wanted to run for office, and couldn't run for office while in the Guard), he didn't do the school.

Wendy P.

Facts mean nothing to them

[wolfriverjoe 1,460]

1 hour ago, billeisele said:

Not according to those that deployed to Iraq when Tim left the service. No clue if the initial reports are accurate. The political jabs are always suspect.

The accounts from those that were in his unit are more believable and they aren't good. The "stolen valor" accusations will be a problem if they are accurate.

Can you provide some of those 'initial reports'?
Some of those 'accounts from those that were in his unit'?

A quick search found this:

https://www.npr.org/2024/08/07/nx-s1-5066772/making-sense-of-jd-vances-stolen-valor-accusations-against-tim-walz

There was some crap from Fox & Breitbart and the 'usual garbage' places that I didn't read.

Edited August 8 by wolfriverjoe

[Phil1111 1,077]

11 minutes ago, okalb said:

Facts mean nothing to them

 

1 minute ago, wolfriverjoe said:

Can you provide some of those 'initial reports'?
Some of those 'accounts from those that were in his unit'?

Exactly,General Bone Spurs attacked John McCain and it meant nothing to the MAGA base. General bone spurs called veterans losers and it meant nothing.

[gowlerk 2,095]

1 hour ago, gowlerk said:

Your team is going to try to swift boat him? Good luck with that!

He enlisted in the Army National Guard when he was 17 and served for 24 years, retiring in 2005 as a command sergeant major, making him the highest-ranking enlisted soldier ever to serve in Congress, according to the House Committee on Veterans’ Affairs.  

 

1 hour ago, billeisele said:

Not according to those that deployed to Iraq when Tim left the service. No clue if the initial reports are accurate.

In other words again with the "some people are saying" nonsense. As far as I can see he served his country with distinction, then moved on to serve his country some more, then he served his state all while serving his community as well.

[jakee 1,339]

2 hours ago, gowlerk said:

Your team is going to try to swift boat him? Good luck with that!

Fool me once, shame on… shame on you. Fool me every single time… can’t get fooled again!

[tkhayes 255]

13 hours ago, gowlerk said:

Ok, this guy is the most unlikely superstar ever. I mean I knew about him because I spend a fair amount of time in MN and MPR is my go to station. But this is priceless. It's past time we had a thread about this man.

https://x.com/traecrowder/status/1821272795487367434

I saw Trae live in Orlando last year.  He hits the nail every time

[winsor 220]

3 hours ago, wmw999 said:

They didn't know that Walz put in his retirement papers months before the deployment decision. And he was a Command Sgt Major, but was told that to make it permanent he had to take a leadership class. Since he'd already decided to retire (he wanted to run for office, and couldn't run for office while in the Guard), he didn't do the school.

Wendy P.

It seems Tulsi Gabbard didn't have to retire.

[wmw999 2,311]

19 minutes ago, winsor said:

It seems Tulsi Gabbard didn't have to retire.

She's not in Minnesota.

Wendy P.

[winsor 220]

1 hour ago, wmw999 said:

She's not in Minnesota.

Wendy P.

That and she's Reserve, not Guard, and an Officer, not NCO.

Edited August 8 by winsor

[normiss 723]

1 hour ago, winsor said:

That and she's Reserve, not Guard, and an Officer, not NCO.

The National Guard is part of the Reserves part of the military/DoD.

[JerryBaumchen 1,260]

6 hours ago, wmw999 said:

They didn't know that Walz put in his retirement papers months before the deployment decision. And he was a Command Sgt Major, but was told that to make it permanent he had to take a leadership class. Since he'd already decided to retire (he wanted to run for office, and couldn't run for office while in the Guard), he didn't do the school.

Wendy P.

Hi Wendy,

That is

5 hours ago, gowlerk said:

He enlisted in the Army National Guard when he was 17 and served for 24 years, retiring in 2005 as a command sergeant major, making him the highest-ranking enlisted soldier ever to serve in Congress, according to the House Committee on Veterans’ Affairs.  

 

In other words again with the "some people are saying" nonsense. As far as I can see he served his country with distinction, then moved on to serve his country some more, then he served his state all while serving his community as well.

Hi Ken,

Re:  In other words again with the "some people are saying" nonsense.

It's a Trump-kinda thing.

Jerry Baumchen

[JerryBaumchen 1,260]

3 minutes ago, normiss said:

The National Guard is part of the Reserves part of the military/DoD.

Hi Mark,

It has been a long time since I served.  Back in the '50's, the Guard took an oath to the Oregon governor.

Jerry Baumchen

[billvon 2,718]

2 minutes ago, JerryBaumchen said:

It's a Trump-kinda thing.

Jerry Baumchen

Well, hey, Swift Boating worked before; why not try again?

[winsor 220]

17 minutes ago, normiss said:

The National Guard is part of the Reserves part of the military/DoD.

Guard is State, Reserves are Federal.  Different chain of command.

[JoeWeber 2,561]

10 hours ago, billeisele said:

Not according to those that deployed to Iraq when Tim left the service. No clue if the initial reports are accurate. The political jabs are always suspect.

The accounts from those that were in his unit are more believable and they aren't good. The "stolen valor" accusations will be a problem if they are accurate.

In the meantime there is no reason not to perpetuate possible falsehoods with posts like this.

[Phil1111 1,077]

Adam Kinzinger CALLS OUT JD Vance for His Bogus Attacks on Tim Walz You tube 4:53 video.

Facts not GOP B.S.

[billeisele 130]

Quotes from 2 men that served with Walz. Who knows if these two guys are credible and if their statements are accurate. The quotes were made during a FOX interview. If it was the FOX talking heads that said the words I'd be skeptical.

Spoke with a CSM friend at the monthly AUSA meeting at Fort Jackson on Wednesday. He said that they take that rank seriously and it's inappropriate for anyone to claim that rank if they didn't achieve it.

 

Command Sgt Major Thomas Behrends (retired) served with Gov Waltz has accused him of embellishing his time in the service and abandoning his unit just before they deployed. Behrends, who said he was a member of Walz's battalion, scolded the Minnesota governor for misleading the American public about his military career. 

His service concluded when he retired from his unit in the Minnesota National Guard right before they deployed to Iraq in 2005. Asked about Trump running mate Sen. JD Vance's accusation that Walz is guilty of "stolen valor," the National Guard veteran said that it's "far darker than a lot of people think."

"He's used the rank that he never achieved in order to advance his political career," he said. "I mean, he still says he's a retired command sergeant major to this day, and he's not. He uses the rank of others to make it look like he's a better person than he is." 

Waltz is described as a retired "command sergeant major" in his governor's website biography and has also claimed he carried a gun "in war," despite never experiencing active combat. The Minnesota National Guard has said that he retired as a master sergeant.

"To most people, that would mean that he was actually in combat, carrying a weapon in a combat zone and getting combat pay and in a dangerous and hostile environment where he is getting shot at," Behrends said. "I mean, if he thinks Italy was a combat zone or a war zone and he was carrying that in war, he's delusional," he added.

Behrends said Walz had been promoted to command sergeant major in 2004, but claimed he was required to serve two additional years or the promotion would be void. His early retirement terminated the promotion, reducing his rank to master sergeant, Behrends said. "What he did, basically, was he quit. He didn't complete that condition of doing two years after graduation, so he gets reduced to a master sergeant, and that's what he is right now, is a retired master sergeant."

"From what I get from the soldiers that I went to Iraq with, probably 98% of them are completely against him embellishing his record," he said. "Don't try to make it look like you were a command sergeant major. Don't try to make it look like you were going to some place that was in support of Operation Enduring Freedom… that's just all embellishment and lies to try to make things look better."

Tom Schilling, who also said he was a member of Walz's battalion, slammed his actions as "dishonorable." "I have my stories about what he did to the military, when he left us like that, and I was kind of like, ‘Are you kidding me?’" Schilling said, recalling his reaction when he heard Harris tapped Walz as her running mate. "We all did what we were supposed to do, we did the right thing, and it's dishonorable what he did," Schilling said. "He left somebody else to take over his spot. He just ditched us."

[JoeWeber 2,561]

2 minutes ago, billeisele said:

Quotes from 2 men that served with Walz. Who knows if these two guys are credible and if their statements are accurate.

Please, please, please stop this way of presenting a non point. You are much better than this, Bill.