Trump flails, listed

[billvon 2,734]

Trump is trying every attack he can against Harris, who is doing better and better than he is in the polls.  And the more he sinks, the sillier his attacks get.  I wanted to start this thread to keep track of all of them because I have a feeling they are going to be 1) lengthy and 2) funny.

We'll start off with two:

1) She's not really black because she's black AND Indian.  "I didn't know she was Black until a number of years ago when she happened to turn Black, and now she wants to be known as Black.  Is she Indian or is she Black? Because she was Indian all the way and then all of a sudden she made a turn and she went she became a Black person.”  And here I thought I was Irish, German AND Italian; I never realized what a poser was going to St. Patrick's Day events.

2) She wasn't born in the US.  "I just heard it today that she doesn't meet the requirements and by the way the lawyer that wrote that piece is a very highly qualified, very talented lawyer. . . .They're saying that she doesn't qualify because she wasn't born in this country."  Because that worked so well against Obama.

[gowlerk 2,099]

15 minutes ago, billvon said:

They're saying that she doesn't qualify because she wasn't born in this country."  Because that worked so well against Obama.

Because Oakland isn’t in the real America.

[jakee 1,344]

46 minutes ago, billvon said:

2) She wasn't born in the US.  "I just heard it today that she doesn't meet the requirements and by the way the lawyer that wrote that piece is a very highly qualified, very talented lawyer. . . .They're saying that she doesn't qualify because she wasn't born in this country."  Because that worked so well against Obama.

Remember the days of right wingers insisting that birtherism wasn't racist? I wonder if any of them believed it.

[JerryBaumchen 1,270]

57 minutes ago, billvon said:

Trump is trying every attack he can against Harris, who is doing better and better than he is in the polls.  And the more he sinks, the sillier his attacks get.  I wanted to start this thread to keep track of all of them because I have a feeling they are going to be 1) lengthy and 2) funny.

We'll start off with two:

1) She's not really black because she's black AND Indian.  "I didn't know she was Black until a number of years ago when she happened to turn Black, and now she wants to be known as Black.  Is she Indian or is she Black? Because she was Indian all the way and then all of a sudden she made a turn and she went she became a Black person.”  And here I thought I was Irish, German AND Italian; I never realized what a poser was going to St. Patrick's Day events.

2) She wasn't born in the US.  "I just heard it today that she doesn't meet the requirements and by the way the lawyer that wrote that piece is a very highly qualified, very talented lawyer. . . .They're saying that she doesn't qualify because she wasn't born in this country."  Because that worked so well against Obama.

Hi Bill,

And, the sad part is that his MAGA meat-heads will believe it.

Those idiots will believe anything as long as they can 'somehow' use it to justify their support for Trump.

Jerry Baumchen

[Phil1111 1,078]

Harris is leading in all 4 of the most recent polls and has a VP to name. Plus the democrat convention both of which will generate positive coverage and votes.

Trump will get more and more unhinged as her lead increases.

[ryoder 1,553]

46 minutes ago, Phil1111 said:

Trump will get more and more unhinged as her lead increases.

How would we detect the difference?

[Phil1111 1,078]

25 minutes ago, ryoder said:

How would we detect the difference?

Trick question right?

[billvon 2,734]

And:

3) She laughs.  "“I call her ‘Laughing Kamala’... You ever watched her laugh?  She’s crazy. You know, you can tell a lot by a laugh—no, she’s crazy, she’s nuts.”  

Trump saying this is especially funny given that he has no sense of humor whatsoever.  A British writer described him well:

" . . .We like a laugh. And while Trump may be laughable, he has never once said anything wry, witty or even faintly amusing – not once, ever.  I don't say that rhetorically, I mean it quite literally: not once, not ever. And that fact is particularly disturbing to the British sensibility – for us, to lack humour is almost inhuman.  But with Trump, it's a fact. He doesn't even seem to understand what a joke is – his idea of a joke is a crass comment, an illiterate insult, a casual act of cruelty.

Trump is a troll. And like all trolls, he is never funny and he never laughs; he only crows or jeers."

[obelixtim 142]

Here is the full quote:

“Why do some British people not like Donald Trump?” Nate White, an articulate and witty writer from England wrote the following response:

A few things spring to mind. Trump lacks certain qualities which the British traditionally esteem. For instance, he has no class, no charm, no coolness, no credibility, no compassion, no wit, no warmth, no wisdom, no subtlety, no sensitivity, no self-awareness, no humility, no honour and no grace – all qualities, funnily enough, with which his predecessor Mr. Obama was generously blessed. So for us, the stark contrast does rather throw Trump’s limitations into embarrassingly sharp relief.

Plus, we like a laugh. And while Trump may be laughable, he has never once said anything wry, witty or even faintly amusing – not once, ever. I don’t say that rhetorically, I mean it quite literally: not once, not ever. And that fact is particularly disturbing to the British sensibility – for us, to lack humour is almost inhuman. But with Trump, it’s a fact. He doesn’t even seem to understand what a joke is – his idea of a joke is a crass comment, an illiterate insult, a casual act of cruelty.

Trump is a troll. And like all trolls, he is never funny and he never laughs; he only crows or jeers. And scarily, he doesn’t just talk in crude, witless insults – he actually thinks in them. His mind is a simple bot-like algorithm of petty prejudices and knee-jerk nastiness.

There is never any under-layer of irony, complexity, nuance or depth. It’s all surface. Some Americans might see this as refreshingly upfront. Well, we don’t. We see it as having no inner world, no soul. And in Britain we traditionally side with David, not Goliath. All our heroes are plucky underdogs: Robin Hood, Dick Whittington, Oliver Twist. Trump is neither plucky, nor an underdog. He is the exact opposite of that. He’s not even a spoiled rich-boy, or a greedy fat-cat. He’s more a fat white slug. A Jabba the Hutt of privilege.

And worse, he is that most unforgivable of all things to the British: a bully. That is, except when he is among bullies; then he suddenly transforms into a snivelling sidekick instead. There are unspoken rules to this stuff – the Queensberry rules of basic decency – and he breaks them all. He punches downwards – which a gentleman should, would, could never do – and every blow he aims is below the belt. He particularly likes to kick the vulnerable or voiceless – and he kicks them when they are down.

So the fact that a significant minority – perhaps a third – of Americans look at what he does, listen to what he says, and then think ‘Yeah, he seems like my kind of guy’ is a matter of some confusion and no little distress to British people, given that:
• Americans are supposed to be nicer than us, and mostly are.
• You don’t need a particularly keen eye for detail to spot a few flaws in the man.

This last point is what especially confuses and dismays British people, and many other people too; his faults seem pretty bloody hard to miss. After all, it’s impossible to read a single tweet, or hear him speak a sentence or two, without staring deep into the abyss. He turns being artless into an art form; he is a Picasso of pettiness; a Shakespeare of shit. His faults are fractal: even his flaws have flaws, and so on ad infinitum. God knows there have always been stupid people in the world, and plenty of nasty people too. But rarely has stupidity been so nasty, or nastiness so stupid. He makes Nixon look trustworthy and George W look smart. In fact, if Frankenstein decided to make a monster assembled entirely from human flaws – he would make a Trump.

And a remorseful Doctor Frankenstein would clutch out big clumpfuls of hair and scream in anguish: ‘My God… what… have… I… created?' If being a twat was a TV show, Trump would be the boxed set. 

[winsor 222]

3 hours ago, obelixtim said:

Here is the full quote:

“Why do some British people not like Donald Trump?” Nate White, an articulate and witty writer from England wrote the following response:

A few things spring to mind. Trump lacks certain qualities which the British traditionally esteem. For instance, he has no class, no charm, no coolness, no credibility, no compassion, no wit, no warmth, no wisdom, no subtlety, no sensitivity, no self-awareness, no humility, no honour and no grace – all qualities, funnily enough, with which his predecessor Mr. Obama was generously blessed. So for us, the stark contrast does rather throw Trump’s limitations into embarrassingly sharp relief.

Plus, we like a laugh. And while Trump may be laughable, he has never once said anything wry, witty or even faintly amusing – not once, ever. I don’t say that rhetorically, I mean it quite literally: not once, not ever. And that fact is particularly disturbing to the British sensibility – for us, to lack humour is almost inhuman. But with Trump, it’s a fact. He doesn’t even seem to understand what a joke is – his idea of a joke is a crass comment, an illiterate insult, a casual act of cruelty.

Trump is a troll. And like all trolls, he is never funny and he never laughs; he only crows or jeers. And scarily, he doesn’t just talk in crude, witless insults – he actually thinks in them. His mind is a simple bot-like algorithm of petty prejudices and knee-jerk nastiness.

There is never any under-layer of irony, complexity, nuance or depth. It’s all surface. Some Americans might see this as refreshingly upfront. Well, we don’t. We see it as having no inner world, no soul. And in Britain we traditionally side with David, not Goliath. All our heroes are plucky underdogs: Robin Hood, Dick Whittington, Oliver Twist. Trump is neither plucky, nor an underdog. He is the exact opposite of that. He’s not even a spoiled rich-boy, or a greedy fat-cat. He’s more a fat white slug. A Jabba the Hutt of privilege.

And worse, he is that most unforgivable of all things to the British: a bully. That is, except when he is among bullies; then he suddenly transforms into a snivelling sidekick instead. There are unspoken rules to this stuff – the Queensberry rules of basic decency – and he breaks them all. He punches downwards – which a gentleman should, would, could never do – and every blow he aims is below the belt. He particularly likes to kick the vulnerable or voiceless – and he kicks them when they are down.

So the fact that a significant minority – perhaps a third – of Americans look at what he does, listen to what he says, and then think ‘Yeah, he seems like my kind of guy’ is a matter of some confusion and no little distress to British people, given that:
• Americans are supposed to be nicer than us, and mostly are.
• You don’t need a particularly keen eye for detail to spot a few flaws in the man.

This last point is what especially confuses and dismays British people, and many other people too; his faults seem pretty bloody hard to miss. After all, it’s impossible to read a single tweet, or hear him speak a sentence or two, without staring deep into the abyss. He turns being artless into an art form; he is a Picasso of pettiness; a Shakespeare of shit. His faults are fractal: even his flaws have flaws, and so on ad infinitum. God knows there have always been stupid people in the world, and plenty of nasty people too. But rarely has stupidity been so nasty, or nastiness so stupid. He makes Nixon look trustworthy and George W look smart. In fact, if Frankenstein decided to make a monster assembled entirely from human flaws – he would make a Trump.

And a remorseful Doctor Frankenstein would clutch out big clumpfuls of hair and scream in anguish: ‘My God… what… have… I… created?' If being a twat was a TV show, Trump would be the boxed set. 

Nailed it.

[billeisele 130]

He has a well-honed talent of not shutting up when he should and making baseless attacks. No doubt the guy is quite smart but it does make one wonder.

[Stumpy 283]

2 hours ago, billeisele said:

No doubt the guy is quite smart

I don't think he is. I think he's been raised to believe it, but this is a guy who managed to bankrupt a casino. That takes some doing.

[winsor 222]

2 hours ago, billeisele said:

He has a well-honed talent of not shutting up when he should and making baseless attacks. No doubt the guy is quite smart but it does make one wonder.

I dispute the 'smart' part.  I've seen no indication of that.

[ryoder 1,553]

3 hours ago, billeisele said:

He has a well-honed talent of not shutting up when he should and making baseless attacks. No doubt the guy is quite smart but it does make one wonder.

So that is why he threatend to sue his college if they released his grades?

Here's Why Donald Trump Doesn't Want Anyone To Know His Grades Or SAT Scores

He inherited Fred's money, ran businesses into bankruptcy repeatedly, until the only job he could get was hosting a reality show. He is a moron.

[JerryBaumchen 1,270]

3 hours ago, billeisele said:

He has a well-honed talent of not shutting up when he should and making baseless attacks. No doubt the guy is quite smart but it does make one wonder.

Hi Bill,

And, one of his former professors at Wharton, said he was the dumbest student he ever had.

Grades, bone spurs; it is truly amazing what money can do for someone.

No, Donald Trump has never been/will never be smart.

Jerry Baumchen

[kallend 1,822]

2 hours ago, ryoder said:

So that is why he threatend to sue his college if they released his grades?

Here's Why Donald Trump Doesn't Want Anyone To Know His Grades Or SAT Scores

He inherited Fred's money, ran businesses into bankruptcy repeatedly, until the only job he could get was hosting a reality show. He is a moron.

Moron - maybe.  Felon - proven, sexual predator - admitted, liar - proven (over and over). Braggart - just listen to him.  

 

[wolfriverjoe 1,462]

7 hours ago, billeisele said:

He has a well-honed talent of not shutting up when he should and making baseless attacks. No doubt the guy is quite smart but it does make one wonder.

In what way do you think he is "quite smart"?

Please provide examples of actual intelligence, not just a rich guy doing whatever he wants.

[ryoder 1,553]

2 hours ago, kallend said:

Moron - maybe.  Felon - proven, sexual predator - admitted, liar - proven (over and over). Braggart - just listen to him.  

 

A rich man will never tell you how rich he is; A smart man will never tell you how smart he is;  An honest man will never tell you how honest he is; A con man will.

[Phil1111 1,078]

50 minutes ago, ryoder said:

A rich man will never tell you how rich he is; A smart man will never tell you how smart he is;  An honest man will never tell you how honest he is; A con man will.

I think the actual quote is "Smart men don’t tell you how smart they are. Rich men don’t tell you how rich they are. Tough men don’t tell you how tough they are. Honest men don’t tell you how honest they are. Con men do."

I'd never heard it before but beyond that smart men don't have to be con men.

[lippy 864]

You guys are all talking a big game against Trump right now, but who'll be laughing when he releases his amazing infrastructure plan in 2 weeks????

[billvon 2,734]

21 minutes ago, lippy said:

You guys are all talking a big game against Trump right now, but who'll be laughing when he releases his amazing infrastructure plan in 2 weeks????

I hear that's the same time his big, beautiful replacement for Obamacare will be out!

Whenever he says that, I picture Arnold Schwarzenegger in drag struggling to say anything other than "TWO . . . . WEEKS . . . ." in Total Recall.

[ryoder 1,553]

37 minutes ago, Phil1111 said:

I think the actual quote is "Smart men don’t tell you how smart they are. Rich men don’t tell you how rich they are. Tough men don’t tell you how tough they are. Honest men don’t tell you how honest they are. Con men do."

I'd never heard it before but beyond that smart men don't have to be con men.

I was just going from memory; I do prefer the phrasing of what you presented.

[headoverheels 329]

7 hours ago, wolfriverjoe said:

In what way do you think he is "quite smart"?

Please provide examples of actual intelligence, not just a rich guy doing whatever he wants.

He very well knows his marks.

[kallend 1,822]

2 hours ago, headoverheels said:

He very well knows his marks.

That pretty much sums it up.  And the marks are always reluctant to admit they've been had.

[billeisele 130]

17 hours ago, JerryBaumchen said:

Hi Bill,

And, one of his former professors at Wharton, said he was the dumbest student he ever had.

Grades, bone spurs; it is truly amazing what money can do for someone.

No, Donald Trump has never been/will never be smart.

Jerry Baumchen

Good morning Jerry.

Instead of smart, let's say, he has a quick mind and good recall. Even when he repeats lies he's consistent.