Harris or Trump in November

[nigel99 293]

2 minutes ago, kallend said:

But his other trials have also been delayed too, and some of them are clearly prison-worthy.

Absolutely and I may be wrong but in the US I believe for treason the death penalty is a potential sentence. It’s wrong that he gets special treatment. 

Edited August 17 by nigel99

[wolfriverjoe 1,462]

53 minutes ago, nigel99 said:

Absolutely and I may be wrong but in the US I believe for treason the death penalty is a potential sentence. It’s wrong that he gets special treatment. 

You aren't wrong, but the Constitutional definition of treason includes 'enemies' and 'making war on the US'.

I don't think what Donnie von Schitzenpants can be proven to have done includes those. 

[nigel99 293]

2 minutes ago, wolfriverjoe said:

You aren't wrong, but the Constitutional definition of treason includes 'enemies' and 'making war on the US'.

I don't think what Donnie von Schitzenpants can be proven to have done includes those. 

Yet..

[JerryBaumchen 1,271]

2 hours ago, ryoder said:

No, no! I want to see him raking the national forests; To prevent wildfires, you know.

Hi Robert,

No, no!

I want average people to walk by & ask him, 'How's it going?'

Then maybe throw their excess Coke at him.

Jerry Baumchen

 

[JoeWeber 2,567]

6 hours ago, brenthutch said:

Just like the same mechanism that put Biden in the White House and lead to Harris as the D’s Nominee 

No, it's not. You are a bitter man, Brent. You are not a troll, you are just a generic naysayer. 

[wolfriverjoe 1,462]

9 hours ago, nigel99 said:

Yet..

True. The actions of Jan 6th were pretty close.

Even if he gave significant amounts of serious intelligence to Putler (not proven but suspected and rather likely, IMO) we aren't at war with Russia. 
So it wouldn't meet the legal standard for "treason".

[winsor 222]

2 hours ago, wolfriverjoe said:

True. The actions of Jan 6th were pretty close.

Even if he gave significant amounts of serious intelligence to Putler (not proven but suspected and rather likely, IMO) we aren't at war with Russia. 
So it wouldn't meet the legal standard for "treason".

"In June 1943, U.S. Representative Andrew J. May revealed to reporters that Japanese depth charges were set too shallow, giving American submarines a higher survival rate during World War II. May said the Japanese didn't know how deep U.S. submarines could dive. The press conference was held after May returned from a war zone trip, and the story was published in many newspapers, including one in Honolulu, Hawaii.
According to the U.S. Naval Institute, the Japanese adjusted their depth charges after May's revelation, but the change cost the Navy 10 submarines and 800 sailors."

This caused a great deal of alarm amongst the populus but, when all is said and done, politicians operate by a completely different set of rules.

Appealing thought it may be to apply the guillotine to the King, the aftermath is NEVER what was intended or expected.

I've been to rather a few countries after revolutions or civil wars, and the worst outcomes were ALWAYS the result of the best of intentions.

When I was a teenager I viewed with derision those possessed of naivete.  I now see naivete as a great luxury - "if I didn't know now what I didn't know then..."

I am less fearful of greed and self interest than I am of well intentioned zealotry - not that I am a fan of either.

BSBD,

Winsor

[JerryBaumchen 1,271]

Hi folks,

Ya gotta luv this one:

Jerry Baumchen

[normiss 723]

On 8/16/2024 at 9:32 PM, nigel99 said:

Absolutely and I may be wrong but in the US I believe for treason the death penalty is a potential sentence. It’s wrong that he gets special treatment. 

Expressing that on Twatter will get you banned.

Multiple times and accounts if you question it.

But yes, it is accurate. Makes me wonder what the penalty for espionage involving nuclear secrets would garner.

Having a TS/SCI, I know what the penalty for ME would be, with a quickness.

[nigel99 293]

The bias in US society and the media between Trump and Harris seems to be more widespread than the right wing media. 

The two areas that stand out are lack of policy detail and record in office. I’ve not seen Trump confronted on why he didn’t get stuff done in his first term. 

On policy there is more emphasis from left leaning media on highlighting that Trump has none, but they still give quite a bit of airtime to Harris not having enough detail.

At face value Harris policy on price gouging seems reasonable, articulate and feasible to implement. It’s hard to understand why it doesn’t seem to get as much credit as it should.Walmarts gross profit went up over 7% in the last year as an example and they have steadily increased over the past decade.

I realise one of the problems is that most people want simple solutions and so Trumps sound bite solutions appease lots of people, so it can look like he has a policy. 

Edited September 13 by nigel99

[billeisele 130]

Don't know if or how much of a difference it makes. The writer for the Post thinks it does.

[gowlerk 2,099]

1 hour ago, billeisele said:

Don't know if or how much of a difference it makes. The writer for the Post thinks it does.

Have any of his convictions been overturned?

[kallend 1,822]

2 hours ago, billeisele said:

Don't know if or how much of a difference it makes. The writer for the Post thinks it does.

Being granted immunity by a court he packed does not mean he didn't engage in criminal activities.

And then there are the civil courts that found him guilty of fraud.

[wolfriverjoe 1,462]

2 hours ago, billeisele said:

Don't know if or how much of a difference it makes. The writer for the Post thinks it does.

One reason he faces fewer charges is because he was CONVICTED of THIRTY FOUR  of them. 

[TriGirl 298]

On 9/14/2024 at 9:01 AM, wolfriverjoe said:

On 9/14/2024 at 6:32 AM, billeisele said:

Don't know if or how much of a difference it makes. The writer for the Post thinks it does.

One reason he faces fewer charges is because he was CONVICTED of THIRTY FOUR  of them. 

And currently the ones in Florida for mishandling classified have been dropped (I can't remember how many of the total that was).  The Georgia case had already had a few of the counts dropped, so even before he was convicted in New York he was down to 88.

Looking forward to the 11th Circuit overruling Canon's decision to dismiss.  Hopefully a nice gift to all of us in time for the holidays. :) 

[SkyDekker 1,291]

31 minutes ago, TriGirl said:

Looking forward to the 11th Circuit overruling Canon's decision to dismiss.  Hopefully a nice gift to all of us in time for the holidays. :) 

And if they listen to the (up till now) two amici briefs, the end of Canon on the case.

[ryoder 1,553]

1 hour ago, SkyDekker said:

And if they listen to the (up till now) two amici briefs, the end of Canon on the case.

I want to hear "the end of Cannon" on the bench.

[billvon 2,734]

On 9/14/2024 at 3:32 AM, billeisele said:

Don't know if or how much of a difference it makes. The writer for the Post thinks it does.

After they convict him for those 12 he will be facing 0 charges!  At least for now.  Something for him to look forward to.

[billvon 2,734]

538 Monte Carlo analysis page now has Harris with a 61% chance and Trump at a 39% chance of winning.  

[JoeWeber 2,567]

1 hour ago, billvon said:

538 Monte Carlo analysis page now has Harris with a 61% chance and Trump at a 39% chance of winning.  

Momentum is the issue and money raised is the metric. I'm kicking down $250 a month mostly aligned with Harris's better looks in the press. I think that's a number that is meaningful in my demographic as determined by her staff. I do think our ActBlue donations have a positive effect this election. But, as ever, to each their own. Slava Harris

[JerryBaumchen 1,271]

12 hours ago, JoeWeber said:

Momentum is the issue and money raised is the metric. I'm kicking down $250 a month mostly aligned with Harris's better looks in the press. I think that's a number that is meaningful in my demographic as determined by her staff. I do think our ActBlue donations have a positive effect this election. But, as ever, to each their own. Slava Harris

Hi Joe,

As we have 'discussed' before; I am giving Harris $200/mo; + another $400/mo to other local congressional candidates.

I hate to acknowledge it, but in this world money talks in politics.

Jerry Baumchen

[billvon 2,734]

On 9/16/2024 at 9:39 PM, JoeWeber said:

Momentum is the issue and money raised is the metric. I'm kicking down $250 a month mostly aligned with Harris's better looks in the press. I think that's a number that is meaningful in my demographic as determined by her staff. I do think our ActBlue donations have a positive effect this election. But, as ever, to each their own. Slava Harris

Harris 63%, Trump 37%.

[JerryBaumchen 1,271]

Hi folks,

I can only hope that this one comes back to bite them in the ass:  Teamsters union declines to endorse Trump or Harris in presidential race : NPR

Jerry Baumchen

A former Teamster

[JoeWeber 2,567]

6 minutes ago, JerryBaumchen said:

Hi folks,

I can only hope that this one comes back to bite them in the ass:  Teamsters union declines to endorse Trump or Harris in presidential race : NPR

Jerry Baumchen

A former Teamster

Dumb asses.

[Phil1111 1,078]

Evidently Iran wants Harris to win as stolen-hacked trump campaign documents were offered to the Harris campaign staff. Meanwhile Putin and Russia are all in for a trump win with multiple troll farms working 24/7.

In other news the US stock markets are at record highs, inflation at four year lows, full employment, gas prices at new lows, a 1/2% interest rate cut. Sorry Brent but Bideneconomics is clearly working wonders.