J D Vance, DEI Candidate

[kallend 1,833]

12 hours ago, billvon said:

It's just obvious.  I mean, look at these perfectly moderate comments republicans made:

JD Vance: People like Kamala Harris are "a bunch of childless cat ladies who are miserable at their own lives and the choices that they’ve made and so they want to make the rest of the country miserable, too."

Trump: Harris is "dumb as a rock"

 

 

 

So they understand the intellectual capacity of the MAGA crowd and are catering to it.

[kallend 1,833]

Since this is a VP thread of sorts:

In a poll of some 2,000 Illinoisians, Mark Kelly was the #1 preference by a fairly large plurality for Dem VP candidate, over a field of likely possibilities.

[wmw999 2,321]

1 hour ago, kallend said:

Since this is a VP thread of sorts:

In a poll of some 2,000 Illinoisians, Mark Kelly was the #1 preference by a fairly large plurality for Dem VP candidate, over a field of likely possibilities.

Something that someone else brought up is that selecting Kelly might then put his Senate seat at risk in 2026. Gain the Presidency, lose the Senate?

Wendy P.

[JoeWeber 2,573]

5 minutes ago, wmw999 said:

Something that someone else brought up is that selecting Kelly might then put his Senate seat at risk in 2026. Gain the Presidency, lose the Senate?

Wendy P.

Rule #1: Live to fight. I'd go with the best choice to put Kamala in the Oval Office and ignore any side strategies which we suck at. 

[billvon 2,741]

23 minutes ago, JoeWeber said:

Rule #1: Live to fight. I'd go with the best choice to put Kamala in the Oval Office and ignore any side strategies which we suck at. 

Don't sell us short Joe!  We suck at ALL strategies. 

[kallend 1,833]

1 hour ago, wmw999 said:

Something that someone else brought up is that selecting Kelly might then put his Senate seat at risk in 2026. Gain the Presidency, lose the Senate?

Wendy P.

Several potential picks hold office in swing states, and that could apply to them too.

[okalb 96]

1 hour ago, wmw999 said:

Something that someone else brought up is that selecting Kelly might then put his Senate seat at risk in 2026. Gain the Presidency, lose the Senate?

Wendy P.

He has a twin, he can do both jobs 

[JoeWeber 2,573]

29 minutes ago, kallend said:

Several potential picks hold office in swing states, and that could apply to them too.

Sure, but won't it make you giggle or fall out of your coconut tree if Kamala chooses for her running mate an actual space cadet?

[billvon 2,741]

23 minutes ago, JoeWeber said:

Sure, but won't it make you giggle or fall out of your coconut tree if Kamala chooses for her running mate an actual space cadet?

Nowadays 'space cadet' is about as funny as telling a skydiver 'only two things fall out of the sky boy!'  There are just too many of them.

[JerryBaumchen 1,275]

2 hours ago, wmw999 said:

Something that someone else brought up is that selecting Kelly might then put his Senate seat at risk in 2026. Gain the Presidency, lose the Senate?

Wendy P.

Hi Wendy,

I was discussing this the other day.  I do not know how it works in Arizona.  In Oregon [ I am pretty sure ], if a US Senator leaves office for any reason, then the appropriate political party [ Dems only in Oregon at this time ] sends their choice to the governor and that is the replacement.  Then an election is held at the first opportunity so the entire state can decide who will be the replacement senator.

Anyone know the Arizona laws?

Jerry Baumchen

[JoeWeber 2,573]

20 minutes ago, billvon said:

Nowadays 'space cadet' is about as funny as telling a skydiver 'only two things fall out of the sky boy!'  There are just too many of them.

So you won’t be using it in your stand up act? 

[okalb 96]

57 minutes ago, JerryBaumchen said:

Anyone know the Arizona laws?

Jerry Baumchen

I believe the Governor assigns a temporary replacement until there is a special election. The Gov must appoint someone from the same party as the person being replaced. The problem is that a special election in Arizona really could go either way.

[JerryBaumchen 1,275]

18 minutes ago, okalb said:

I believe the Governor assigns a temporary replacement until there is a special election. The Gov must appoint someone from the same party as the person being replaced. The problem is that a special election in Arizona really could go either way.

Hi okalb,

Here in Oregon, the 'special election' is held the next election cycle.  It is not held on some whatever date.

Is that how it is in AZ?

Jerry Baumchen

[okalb 96]

30 minutes ago, JerryBaumchen said:

Hi okalb,

Here in Oregon, the 'special election' is held the next election cycle.  It is not held on some whatever date.

Is that how it is in AZ?

Jerry Baumchen

I am just going on what google tells me. I don't even live in the US anymore much less AZ, but my understanding is that in this case, the special election would be held at the next general election cycle.

 

[ryoder 1,558]

On 7/23/2024 at 4:26 PM, billvon said:

JD Vance: People like Kamala Harris are "a bunch of childless cat ladies who are miserable at their own lives and the choices that they’ve made and so they want to make the rest of the country miserable, too."

I think he has a point here!

 

[wolfriverjoe 1,464]

1 hour ago, ryoder said:

I think he has a point here!

 

Seen elsewhere:

Think about what the alt-right would be screaming if Kamala Harris had given birth to 5 children by 3 different men.

[kallend 1,833]

Public Service Announcement:

 

[jakee 1,353]

On 7/21/2024 at 11:48 AM, wmw999 said:

This is an absolutely wonderful column from the NY Times. Copied in toto because of the paywall. 

Link

It's a little unfair to single out Vance - until Obama no-one ever seriously thought a non-white person could win a presidential campaign, and until Clinton no-one ever seriously thought a woman could. So every single US President and Vice-President in history (until, ironically, Trump) was a DEI hire, since being a white man was an absolute pre-requisite for their selection.

[jakee 1,353]

On 7/23/2024 at 11:50 AM, billeisele said:

 

Does anyone have a photo of Trump starting his career with a $10M check from his dad? That'd be a good meme, wouldn't it?

[obelixtim 144]

On 7/24/2024 at 4:43 AM, billvon said:

Challenge accepted!

Harris: started with an education, no money
Trump: started with a "small loan" of $60.7 million

Harris bankruptcies: 0
Trump bankruptcies: 6

Harris loans forgiven: $0
Trump loans forgiven: $287 million

# felonies Harris convicted of: 0
# felonies Trump convicted of: 34

# people Harris raped: 0
# people Trump raped: 1

Felons created by Harris administration/campaign: 0
Felons created by Trump administration/campaign: 11

Harris: Supports US Constitution
Trump: Wants to "terminate" "phony" US Constitution

Harris stated desire to be a dictator: No
Trump stated desire to be a dictator:  Yes

Harris experience: DA, Attorney General, Senator
Trump experience: Real estate, reality TV

Harris: Worked on PACT act to help veterans exposed to toxic materials in the line of duty
Trump: Thinks veterans are "suckers" and "losers"

Harris: Healthy, fit, sharp, young
Trump: Morbidly obese, senile, too old

 

Point of order: I think his "rape" score is too low. 

[billvon 2,741]

5 hours ago, obelixtim said:

Point of order: I think his "rape" score is too low. 

I am going by "proven in a court of law rapes."  If not, some right wing wag will claim that Harris ran the child sex ring under the pizza place in DC and is thus really a rapist 10,000 times over.

[richravizza 27]

On 7/27/2024 at 12:54 PM, obelixtim said:

Point of order: I think his "rape" score is too low. 

You can assume anything you want. The passage of the 2022 ASA was timely,but like the jury "everyone knew he was a rapist" right. Some people also believe the OJ jury got it right,too. LOL

"Among the [Article] 130 claims are rape, sexual abuse and forcible touching," he said. "Therefore, in order for Ms. Carroll to prevail on the statute of limitations, she needed to prove [by a preponderance of the evidence] that she was the victim of rape or sexual abuse or forcible touching."Any one of the three would have sufficed. The jury found two of the three applied, but not rape." Clinton-esque.

 

 

[richravizza 27]

On 7/23/2024 at 9:58 AM, kallend said:

I'd like to see Trump call Sen. Tammy Duckworth a "loser and sucker" to her face.

If you repeat a lie, what does that make you, a suka or the loser?

[kallend 1,833]

34 minutes ago, richravizza said:

If you repeat a lie, what does that make you, a suka or the loser?

So you are suggesting that 4-Star General Kelly (USMC, ret.), former Chief of Staff to ex-President Trump, is a liar?

[billvon 2,741]

4 hours ago, kallend said:

So you are suggesting that 4-Star General Kelly (USMC, ret.), former Chief of Staff to ex-President Trump, is a liar?

Well, Trump supporters do hate veterans.