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[SkyDekker 1,271]

The Dutch have a road tax based on weight of the vehicle, which seems to make the most sense to me. Heavier the vehicle, the more damage it does to infrastructure.

[kallend 1,799]

18 hours ago, SkyDekker said:

The Dutch have a road tax based on weight of the vehicle, which seems to make the most sense to me. Heavier the vehicle, the more damage it does to infrastructure.

Damage to road surfaces is non-linear with vehicle weight.  Apparently it goes up with the fourth power of the axle load.  Heavy vehicles should be taxed much more highly than they are.

[gowlerk 2,071]

35 minutes ago, kallend said:

Damage to road surfaces is non-linear with vehicle weight.  Apparently it goes up with the fourth power of the axle load.  Heavy vehicles should be taxed much more highly than they are.

Small British 2 seat sports cars should probably be negative taxed and given a credit.

[wolfriverjoe 1,449]

20 hours ago, SkyDekker said:

The Dutch have a road tax based on weight of the vehicle, which seems to make the most sense to me. Heavier the vehicle, the more damage it does to infrastructure.

One of the arguments about higher EV registrations is that the batteries are heavy, making the car heavier.

However, my Bolt weighs a few hundred pounds more than my 928.

And about two thousand pounds less than my old Cayenne.

No surcharge on registration for the Cayenne.

However, 15 mpg meant I paid a fair amount of fuel tax.

[billvon 2,683]

3 hours ago, kallend said:

Damage to road surfaces is non-linear with vehicle weight.  Apparently it goes up with the fourth power of the axle load.  Heavy vehicles should be taxed much more highly than they are.

Just for fun I analyzed how much road taxes on each vehicle would be based on the above.  I normalized the Mitsubishi Mirage, the lightest vehicle in the US, at $100 a year.
 

Car	Scaled
Mirage	100
Prime	1009
Bolt	1095
Blazer	1376
F-150	4171
Escalade	11853
Delivery truck	136841
18 wheeler empty	3961173
18 wheeler max	108121385

[SkyDekker 1,271]

2 hours ago, billvon said:

Just for fun I analyzed how much road taxes on each vehicle would be based on the above.  I normalized the Mitsubishi Mirage, the lightest vehicle in the US, at $100 a year.
 

Car	Scaled
Mirage	100
Prime	1009
Bolt	1095
Blazer	1376
F-150	4171
Escalade	11853
Delivery truck	136841
18 wheeler empty	3961173
18 wheeler max	108121385

electrical vehicles are excluded from the tax

 

But for comparison

F150 is $1580 per annum

Honda Fit is $400 per annum

the F150 is about 2.3x heavier than the Fit, but you can see cost per annum is almost 4x more.

(this is on top of the tax at purchase that is based on CO2 emission of the vehicle)

[kallend 1,799]

2 hours ago, billvon said:

Just for fun I analyzed how much road taxes on each vehicle would be based on the above.  I normalized the Mitsubishi Mirage, the lightest vehicle in the US, at $100 a year.
 

Car	Scaled
Mirage	100
Prime	1009
Bolt	1095
Blazer	1376
F-150	4171
Escalade	11853
Delivery truck	136841
18 wheeler empty	3961173
18 wheeler max	108121385

So next time you see a big truck with "This vehicle pays $6,000 per year in over the road taxes" on its rear doors, you'll know they are advertizing how undertaxed they are,

[billvon 2,683]

8 minutes ago, SkyDekker said:

electrical vehicles are excluded from the tax

Right - this is taking Kallend's approach that road damage (and thus costs to repair that road) are based solely on the fourth power of the vehicle's axle weight.

[billvon 2,683]

13 minutes ago, SkyDekker said:

the F150 is about 2.3x heavier than the Fit, but you can see cost per annum is almost 4x more.

Right.  And per Kallend's approach, the F150 should be 28 times more.

[kallend 1,799]

6 minutes ago, billvon said:

Right.  And per Kallend's approach, the F150 should be 28 times more.

I only take credit for drawing to peoples' attention.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_power_law