Phil1111 1,107 #26 July 16 4 hours ago, headoverheels said: A 1mph misjudged crosswind component would turn an eye shot into an ear nick. Or a clean miss into an ear nick. With wind at 10mph coming from the 5 o'clock position and 130 yard range. One mph difference in wind results in .08" more or less drift. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
richravizza 27 #27 July 17 (edited) On 7/15/2024 at 5:04 AM, Phil1111 said: Rhetorical I assume? Over 900 YouTube videos spouting nonsense, conspiracy and lies all tied together. For which a lobotomy is required to view should suggest more are upcoming. Did you count them? you may be confusing me with Slimking.LOL My a/v presentations are from professors and other types, lots of letters after their names, shirley you can appreciate. My time is limited,so couching 1,000 words on every subject won't be possible.But if you have the time, curiosity or effort to click.Why not. Boy your a sucker for punishment. For the second time, can I use illiterate? Read #176 #2 again. I'll let it go one more time, but if you fail on the third. I'll tell you the answer,the Key adjective, a clue... it starts with R. Where was I, Oh ya,. To those interested in the information filtered by Youtube,some footage of Hamas. I thought some could appropriate the incompetence. A 5 sec. ad and 13 sec. in.... lol and at 2;25, mission accomplished 2;37 LOL A dead man walking, I guess when your shooting at farmers, it doesn't count, the Dude filming sb the next casualty. Edited July 17 by richravizza Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
richravizza 27 #28 July 17 (edited) On 7/15/2024 at 4:56 AM, winsor said: At any rate, the shooter was an abysmal marksman - to the detriment of the people who got hit by his incompetence. Yes. RIP trying to protect those you loved Corey Comperatore, 50, a former chief of the Buffalo Township Volunteer Fire Company, was killed in the shooting, and two other people — David Dutch, 57, and James Copenhaver, 74 — were injured. 14 hours ago, winsor said: In any event, the shooter missed an impossibly easy shot, one that he was able to take by virtue of SS hesitation, and bettered the odds That has got to be against protocol, No? 14 hours ago, winsor said: As it was he was clearly visible to various and sundry observers - to include LEOs and Secret Service sharpshooters. The Gov't marksmen were watching him through their rifle scopes for quite some time before he began shooting and, without having to look around, touched off the round that ended the shooting. Their indecision was amazing - amateur hour at its finest. I Agree completely, some say LEO knew he had a rangefinder disguised as binoculars. strange... Edited July 17 by richravizza Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 1,107 #29 July 17 (edited) 1 hour ago, richravizza said: Did you count them? you may be confusing me with Slimking.LOL My a/v presentations are from professors and other types I'm a professor as well. In 1982 I got my PhD in international relations and strategic studies from the Swiss Institute of Global Affairs. It arrived inside this: Just like all those "professors". Edited July 17 by Phil1111 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 737 #30 July 17 11 hours ago, Phil1111 said: I'm a professor as well. In 1982 I got my PhD in international relations and strategic studies from the Swiss Institute of Global Affairs. It arrived inside this: Just like all those "professors". "professors and other types" I'm tempted to laugh, but it ain't funny. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 1,107 #31 July 17 10 minutes ago, normiss said: "professors and other types" I'm tempted to laugh, but it ain't funny. No its not funny at all. Its indicative of how easy it is to mislead. People think they are entering a full fledged school of high academic standing. When they are really walking down the rabbit hole. Trump U comes to mind. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
richravizza 27 #32 July 18 (edited) On 7/16/2024 at 6:59 PM, Phil1111 said: I'm a professor as well. In 1982 I got my PhD in international relations and strategic studies from the Swiss Institute of Global Affairs. It arrived inside this: Just like all those "professors". and I assumed as much. So Do your duty and destroy them, do your best Jekyll and Hyde,and tear them apart. While some don't click on my eclectic choices,some do. Thanks for dating yourself, it's better than my assumptions. If respect is what you seek, well that requires a two way street. Do you dislike my use of music ? I thought it livens up the dry linear lines of aristocratic communications. There have been many men that have warned us about... your ideas. Thomas Sowell in particular, the distaste and diversion. Better yet, the aversion to facts contrary to those ideological assumptions. I alway like Humor,so bravo,Sir, it is noble to be equally laughable.Stoicism rejects self humiliation and defamation,perhaps because of the lasting impression it leaves,other than an authority fallacy.Noted Sir. Edited July 18 by richravizza Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
richravizza 27 #33 July 18 What did you think of the SS agents that found it difficult to Holster their weapon, the SS look like a bunch of Keystone Cops? Three minutes is all it takes, Most agree " I could nail this audition" 5.5 mill agree. LOL Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tkhayes 303 #34 July 18 On 7/14/2024 at 8:44 PM, brenthutch said: According to a Washington Post, lefties are just as prone to conspiracy theories at righties. So you found one conspiracy on the left and based on that, your conclusion is that lefties are 'just as prone' to conspiracy theories? A dataset of one? Missed statistics 101 did we? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 1,107 #35 July 18 1 hour ago, richravizza said: ..... I alway like Humor,so bravo,Sir, it is noble to be equally laughable.Stoicism rejects self humiliation and defamation,perhaps because of the lasting impression it leaves,other than an authority fallacy.Noted Sir. Why don't you explain to Wendy why this is right, That women are responsible for the failures of the SS. “Look, I’m not sure about who the individuals are on the individual detail, Secret Service, but I can tell you under this Biden administration, the one thing I’ve seen is massive D.E.I. hires,” Representative Cory Mills of Florida said on Fox News, referring to diversity, equity and inclusion practices. “And I can tell you when you primarily, when you primarily go after D-E-I,” Mr. Mills continued, “you end up with D-I-E.” Benny Johnson, a right-wing commentator, was more blunt in a social media post viewed nearly 9 million times: “Absolute humiliation for this gaggle of female Secret Service Agents,” he wrote in a post that showed the chaotic aftermath of the shooting, adding: “DEI Secret Service make Presidents LESS Safe.” Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
richravizza 27 #36 July 18 (edited) 1 hour ago, Phil1111 said: Why don't you explain to Wendy why this is right, That women are responsible for the failures of the SS. “Look, I’m not sure about who the individuals are on the individual detail, Secret Service, but I can tell you under this Biden administration, the one thing I’ve seen is massive D.E.I. hires,” Representative Cory Mills of Florida said on Fox News, referring to diversity, equity and inclusion practices. “And I can tell you when you primarily, when you primarily go after D-E-I,” Mr. Mills continued, “you end up with D-I-E.” Benny Johnson, a right-wing commentator, was more blunt in a social media post viewed nearly 9 million times: “Absolute humiliation for this gaggle of female Secret Service Agents,” he wrote in a post that showed the chaotic aftermath of the shooting, adding: “DEI Secret Service make Presidents LESS Safe.” Wow,I thought we were on Roland's trumped up charges, with your insight, being there, that long. You could say anything you want, and we could agree on something. But if that's the direction you want to go..ok. Get with the program it's not just DEI, but B for Belonging.Funny, how folks pontificate firing that weapon, even being on the receiving end,but very few belong to that exclusive club. “DEI Secret Service make Presidents LESS Safe.” My personal opinion it a standards issue.Pull priority.If there was a follow up attack, if the first shots just a diversion, the hammer to an anvil.The outcome wb very different, But seems that never crossed minds.I think we can agree, an AAD fire. Edited July 19 by richravizza Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
richravizza 27 #37 July 19 2 hours ago, Phil1111 said: “And I can tell you when you primarily, when you primarily go after D-E-I,” Mr. Mills continued, “you end up with D-I-E.” Like Mr. Mills,I almost forgot about the I-E-D, a fatal omission. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,485 #38 July 19 2 hours ago, Phil1111 said: ...Benny Johnson, a right-wing commentator, was more blunt in a social media post viewed nearly 9 million times: “Absolute humiliation for this gaggle of female Secret Service Agents,” he wrote in a post that showed the chaotic aftermath of the shooting, adding: “DEI Secret Service make Presidents LESS Safe.” Meh. I've seen a few of the videos of the Secret Service agents having a bit of a struggle to re-holster their pistols. It's not always an easy feat to accomplish. The holster usually isn't visible, so it's done by 'feel'. Cover garments get in the way. The adrenaline is starting to wear off (you don't put the gun away until you're reasonably sure it's over) and THAT'S when the shakes start to set in. Most importantly, the videos I saw showed them maintaining muzzle discipline and keeping their trigger finger out of the trigger guard (off the trigger AND away from it altogether). Most importantly, none of them shot themselves in the foot or leg. A huge portion of unintentional discharges result from bad re-holstering. Many also cause self inflicted injury. There were a LOT of screwups at that event. Many by the Secret Service. But the videos of the agents going around don't show them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,342 #39 July 19 9 hours ago, richravizza said: Like Mr. Mills,I almost forgot about the I-E-D, a fatal omission. I get it, I really do. It's OK to have women and minorities in some jobs, as long as you personally approve of each and ever one. There's a presumption that white men are qualified, and everyone else has to prove themselves. But, you see, no one asked you. Wendy P. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,233 #40 July 19 11 hours ago, richravizza said: t's not just DEI, but B for Belonging. There's always been some corporate/government speak for tearing down barriers (i.e., Race Relations). DEI is just the new word. In the case of the SS, the new Director was looking at a 48% attrition rate within her ranks. Employing DEI was not only a government mandate, but a possible way to slow down that attrition rate. Unfortunately, it did not address the real reasons for the attrition and then just became the thing to blame for a worsening attrition rate. As for the holster situation - I'm not a fan of Kydex holsters, being so rigid, they are difficult to put the gun in, even more difficult being left handed, and factor in some adrenaline. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 1,107 #41 July 19 17 minutes ago, BIGUN said: ...As for the holster situation - I'm not a fan of Kydex holsters, being so rigid, they are difficult to put the gun in, even more difficult being left handed, and factor in some adrenaline. It is my impression that the rigid construction is necessary to get the gun retaining mechanisms to work property. That and the 3/4 inch more or less channel to insert it. All necessary to prevent the withdrawal of the gun by someone who is not familiar with its retention actions. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,233 #42 July 19 1 hour ago, Phil1111 said: It is my impression that the rigid construction is necessary to get the gun retaining mechanisms to work property. That and the 3/4 inch more or less channel to insert it. The holster can lose its "shape" causing one to have to unscrew it, heat it, reshape it, etc. If not done properly, can create additional issues. As to the 3/4" if one is an 1/8" off inserting the weapon back into the holster - you'll see the issues the SS member had with trying to put it back in the holster. If you get it right, they're good holsters, but not near as easy as a leather or nylon holster. I also don't like them because they will scratch your gun over time. Not might, will. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tkhayes 303 #43 July 19 On 7/15/2024 at 10:31 PM, brenthutch said: I will say, attempting a headshot at 150 yards with iron sights is not so easy. OTOH with a properly zeroed optic it’s very very easy. My 11 year old can hit a quarter at 200 yards IMG_1026.mov anyone highly trained with the right gear is more effective that someone who is not or someone who has the wrong gear. There is no indication that this punk had any significant training in the use of a gun for a 130+yd shot. 'he was a member of a shooting club' - so fucking what. And the world is filled with highly trained people that wildly missed and took out innocent bystanders or started blasting and hit nothing. While your son might be able to hit a quarter at 200yds, I expect he misses that a lot as well. Show us a grouping of 10 shots and then tell us how good he is. And even with that scope, the quarter at 200yds looks smaller that this period (.) With iron sights, the quarter is not even visible, you are just guessing where it is based on where you placed it. You hit it because you have a spotter giving you advice based on your misses. 100yds is a long shot for 95-98% of the people out there I expect. We used to hit empty shotgun shells at 100yds with iron sights on Winchester bolt .22's. We did not see the shells at all, we just knew where they were, since we were the ones that placed them. A spotter gave corrections if they could see when we missed and where. It took multiple shots to knock them down. Am I highly trained? Not really. Can I boast about being able to hit a shotgun shell at 100yds with iron sights? Yes I can. Is that a measure of anything? No it is not. It's just talk and discussion. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,339 #44 July 19 4 hours ago, BIGUN said: There's always been some corporate/government speak for tearing down barriers (i.e., Race Relations). DEI is just the new word. In the case of the SS, the new Director was looking at a 48% attrition rate within her ranks. Employing DEI was not only a government mandate, but a possible way to slow down that attrition rate. Unfortunately, it did not address the real reasons for the attrition and then just became the thing to blame for a worsening attrition rate. As for the holster situation - I'm not a fan of Kydex holsters, being so rigid, they are difficult to put the gun in, even more difficult being left handed, and factor in some adrenaline. There is also the curve of hips, which tends to be more pronounced for women, which canters the opening of the holster inwards without the weight of the firearm in it. Lot of experts here on how they would have totally prevented all of this....Or how if the SS was only white men this would have never happened...like JFK and Reagan never got shot.... 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 1,107 #45 July 19 5 hours ago, tkhayes said: .....While your son might be able to hit a quarter at 200yds, ,,, I'm sure Brent's son is a good shot. I don't understand why he shoots at money when there is steel or paper targets to shoot at. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,233 #46 July 19 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Phil1111 said: I don't understand why he shoots at money when there is steel or paper targets to shoot at. It's a shooting term referring to the grouping. Quarter, Nickel, Dime. Not real money, just the diameter of. EDIT: And the best one is - able to drive a nail at X yards. Edited July 19 by BIGUN Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
richravizza 27 #47 July 30 On 7/19/2024 at 4:26 AM, BIGUN said: There's always been some corporate/government speak for tearing down barriers (i.e., Race Relations). DEI is just the new word. In the case of the SS, the new Director was looking at a 48% attrition rate within her ranks. Employing DEI was not only a government mandate, but a possible way to slow down that attrition rate. Unfortunately, it did not address the real reasons for the attrition and then just became the thing to blame for a worsening attrition rate. As for the holster situation - I'm not a fan of Kydex holsters, being so rigid, difficult to put the gun in, even more difficult being left handed, and factor in some adrenaline. Tearing down barriers or standards? But, Definitely a lack of Leadership on all fronts.... If we armchair QB it, lacking in foresight. Her testimony I found interesting,lol.. a rhyme in time of Claudine and the other university presidents. "As for the holster situation - I'm not a fan of Kydex holsters, being so rigid, difficult to put the gun in, even more difficult being left handed, and factor in some adrenaline. Perhaps a standard ; each agent shall draw and holster their weapon without difficulty. P.S. Have you ever seen a perimeter in the shape of Pacman? LOL On 7/19/2024 at 9:13 AM, SkyDekker said: Or how if the SS was only white men this would have never happened...like JFK and Reagan never got shot.... If you included Lincoln, you'd have a trifecta. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,339 #48 July 30 10 minutes ago, richravizza said: Perhaps a standard ; each agent shall draw and holster their weapon without difficulty. I mean, the army has a standard of not shooting your own people, yet in conflict situations it happens. Funny enough, turns out that shit happens in high stress situations. Weird that skydivers don't know this. There is a forum almost entirely dedicated to it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,790 #49 July 30 16 minutes ago, richravizza said: If you included Lincoln, you'd have a trifecta. You think the Secret Service should have protected him? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,129 #50 July 30 7 minutes ago, billvon said: You think the Secret Service should have protected him? Secretary Seward should have protected him. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites