More Sacrifices to the First Amendment

[billvon 2,676]

2 hours ago, BIGUN said:

Not sure which camp you'd put me in; teaching sex education in class is one thing. Pornography is another.  

Agreed.  No porn in classrooms.

[Phil1111 1,047]

2 hours ago, JoeWeber said:

What no Youtube video to explain your positions? 

Isn't Bigun's positions between him and his wife in the privacy of their home?

[SkyDekker 1,270]

2 hours ago, BIGUN said:

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/pornography

Science vs. Social

Reproduction vs. Pornhub/OnlyFans type materiel in visual or written form.  

So one could potentially take a picture of a girl in a bikini and sell it, but can't take a picture of a girl topless and sell it?

What about a topless guy? What size do the breasts have to be before it becomes pornography?

And why can pornography get censored, but not hate speech? Why are you proposing seeing a penis in a vagina should be banned, but a man slicing the throat of another should be fine?

Do you really think a 14 year old will be more scarred from seeing a nipple than seeing somebody bleed out, or brain matter splashed all over the wall?

[ryoder 1,514]

27 minutes ago, SkyDekker said:

Do you really think a 14 year old will be more scarred from seeing a nipple than seeing somebody bleed out, or brain matter splashed all over the wall?

Anyone consider the irony of worrying about children seeing nipples, considering who nipples are intended to benefit?

[JerryBaumchen 1,236]

33 minutes ago, ryoder said:

Anyone consider the irony of worrying about children seeing nipples, considering who nipples are intended to benefit?

Hi Robert,

Just go outside of the US & see all the nipples in magazines, newspapers, posters on telephone polls, beaches, etc.

Not a lot of parents worrying about it.

Jerry Baumchen

[ryoder 1,514]

53 minutes ago, JerryBaumchen said:

Hi Robert,

Just go outside of the US & see all the nipples in magazines, newspapers, posters on telephone polls, beaches, etc.

Not a lot of parents worrying about it.

Jerry Baumchen

Female nipples are legal for the owner to disply in Boulder, but sadly I've never seen anyone taking advantage of it. :-(

[JoeWeber 2,520]

4 hours ago, BIGUN said:

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/pornography

Science vs. Social

Reproduction vs. Pornhub/OnlyFans type materiel in visual or written form.  

Hmm.. Okay, I see that you are reluctant to plant your own flag. So, would you consider this picture to be pornographic such that school children should not be exposed?

[Phil1111 1,047]

10 hours ago, JerryBaumchen said:

Hi Robert,

Just go outside of the US & see all the nipples in magazines, newspapers, posters on telephone polls, beaches, etc.

Not a lot of parents worrying about it.

Jerry Baumchen

Republicans never leave America unless they are in the military.

[wolfriverjoe 1,447]

16 hours ago, BIGUN said:

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/pornography

Science vs. Social

Reproduction vs. Pornhub/OnlyFans type materiel in visual or written form.  

What about art?

Where do you want the line drawn for that?

Venus de Milo?
David?

How about ESPN's 'The Body Issue'?

https://www.espn.com/espn/feature/story/_/id/27400369/the-body-issue

Note: the link is athletes posing without clothing, but in positions and with props that hide all the 'naughty bits'. 

Edited July 20 by wolfriverjoe

[Phil1111 1,047]

16 hours ago, BIGUN said:

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/pornography

Science vs. Social

Reproduction vs. Pornhub/OnlyFans type materiel in visual or written form.  

 

7 hours ago, JoeWeber said:

Hmm.. Okay, I see that you are reluctant to plant your own flag. So, would you consider this picture to be pornographic such that school children should not be exposed?

 

9 minutes ago, wolfriverjoe said:

What about art?

Where do you want the line drawn for that?

Venus de Milo?
David?

How about ESPN's 'The Body Issue'?

https://www.espn.com/espn/feature/story/_/id/27400369/the-body-issue

Note: the link is athletes posing without clothing, but in positions and with props that hide all the 'naughty bits'. 

Of course he's reluctant to plant his flag, pardon the pun. But he's the only intelligent republican here. Don't wear him out because the default is typical GOP animal feed, or Brent.

[BIGUN 1,229]

1 hour ago, wolfriverjoe said:

the link is athletes posing without clothing, but in positions and with props that hide all the 'naughty bits'. 

Yeah, so for my three lines posted - between Sky & you; I'd have to spend the whole day answering eleven questions of taunt. It would degrade into a silly argument. Not going to do it. You guys know the difference between sex education and porn.  

[JoeWeber 2,520]

1 hour ago, BIGUN said:

Yeah, so for my three lines posted - between Sky & you; I'd have to spend the whole day answering eleven questions of taunt. It would degrade into a silly argument. Not going to do it. You guys know the difference between sex education and porn.  

I do. The one is needed because of religious oppression and the other is needed because of religious oppression.

[Phil1111 1,047]

5 hours ago, JoeWeber said:

I do. The one is needed because of religious oppression and the other is needed because of religious oppression.

That would be for western religions and especially for Christians. . Other religions celebrate sex. View it as an extension of life, physical and mental health. Christians OTOH believe that thinking about sex will put you in hell. WARNING Christians don't view the religious stone carving below from India

[lippy 852]

51 minutes ago, Phil1111 said:

Yeah, those are fake

[Phil1111 1,047]

7 minutes ago, lippy said:

Yeah, those are fake

Personal or professional opinion?

[lippy 852]

9 hours ago, Phil1111 said:

Personal or professional opinion?

It was intended as a joke about fake tits....it made sense in my head at the time, but re-reading it with the benefits of hindsight and sobriety it reads like I'm disputing the authenticity of the sculpture.....sorry.

[BIGUN 1,229]

Perhaps someone should start a new thread to shift this conversation out of the second amendment thread. 

[wmw999 2,291]

Well, it’s a first amendment thread…

Wendy P. 

[Phil1111 1,047]

51 minutes ago, lippy said:

It was intended as a joke about fake tits....it made sense in my head at the time, but re-reading it with the benefits of hindsight and sobriety it reads like I'm disputing the authenticity of the sculpture.....sorry.

So personal, ok.

[BIGUN 1,229]

39 minutes ago, wmw999 said:

Well, it’s a first amendment thread…

ooops. My bad. Not enough coffee.

[wolfriverjoe 1,447]

On 7/20/2024 at 9:23 AM, BIGUN said:

... You guys know the difference between sex education and porn.  

Again, what about art?
There's a LOT of legitimate art that blurs the line between art & porn. Some of it intentionally (Robert Mapplethorp is a great example of that).
Who decides where that line is?
You?
The 6 extreme and corrupt Christian fanatics that rule the Supreme Court?

You complain about 'gotcha' questions, but what I REALLY want to know is why you feel the need to regulate private behavior by adults.

And why you think you, or anyone else should have that ability.

[BIGUN 1,229]

3 hours ago, wolfriverjoe said:

Again,

Up to fifteen questions. So, again,

 

[JoeWeber 2,520]

Just now, BIGUN said:

Up to fifteen questions. So, again,

 

Maybe get another hobby.

[wolfriverjoe 1,447]

6 hours ago, BIGUN said:

Up to fifteen questions. So, again,

 

One question:

Why do you feel that porn should be outlawed?

[billvon 2,676]

1 hour ago, wolfriverjoe said:

One question:

Why do you feel that porn should be outlawed?

Who said anything about outlawing porn?  Not me.  Not Bigun.