gowlerk 2,072 #1 Posted July 4 On July 4th an important election is being held in the UK. It just happens that it is somewhat controversial that photo ID is required for in person voting. https://www.bbc.com/news/explainers-64877005 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 598 #2 July 4 Why is showing photo ID a fuss? The last half-dozen Canadian elections (municipal, provincial and federal) have all required me to show gov't issued photo ID at the polling station. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,072 #3 July 4 32 minutes ago, riggerrob said: Why is showing photo ID a fuss? The last half-dozen Canadian elections (municipal, provincial and federal) have all required me to show gov't issued photo ID at the polling station. Mostly because not everyone entitled to vote holds a photo ID. Most of us do. In Canada a government issued photo ID is the easiest way to vote, but other methods can be used. https://www.elections.ca/content.aspx?section=vot&dir=ids&document=index&lang=e Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bokdrol 42 #4 July 4 The photo ID thing has been trialled in UK local elections so it's not something new. Most people turned away at trial/local election time simply forgot to bring some form of ID with them. If you don't have a photo ID you can go on the YouGov site and apply for one. Even the ubiquitous technophobe OAP will carry a bus pass, which is an acceptable photo ID document. There's little or no excuse. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,072 #5 July 4 8 minutes ago, Bokdrol said: The photo ID thing has been trialled in UK local elections so it's not something new. Most people turned away at trial/local election time simply forgot to bring some form of ID with them. If you don't have a photo ID you can go on the YouGov site and apply for one. Even the ubiquitous technophobe OAP will carry a bus pass, which is an acceptable photo ID document. There's little or no excuse. There is also little to no reason for it. Voter fraud is a difficult and low reward activity with a fairly high penalty attached. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,072 #6 July 5 How hard can you buck the trend? UK moves hard to the left in a huge landslide! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,521 #7 July 5 Just now, gowlerk said: How hard can you buck the trend? UK moves hard to the left in a huge landslide! In the US these days they’re hard on the right. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,271 #8 July 5 17 hours ago, gowlerk said: How hard can you buck the trend? UK moves hard to the left in a huge landslide! I wonder how much is politics and how much is discontent with current situation..... The Liberals in Canada see this as a a reason why they may win the next election. I see it as further evidence they may lose official party status. I think these big turns have far less to do with politics than people may think. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lippy 855 #9 July 5 41 minutes ago, SkyDekker said: I wonder how much is politics and how much is discontent with current situation..... The Liberals in Canada see this as a a reason why they may win the next election. I see it as further evidence they may lose official party status. I think these big turns have far less to do with politics than people may think. Definitely something to that. People are generally frustrated everywhere and it’s easy to blame the incumbents, whatever party they’re a part of. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dgw 8 #10 July 5 19 hours ago, gowlerk said: How hard can you buck the trend? UK moves hard to the left in a huge landslide! You might find this interesting. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c2x0g8nkzmzo it wasn’t so much the apparently hard move to the left (Labour) by the public, and more of a split of the conservative vote. In fairness, the civil service run the country, and left and right in the UK are both centre parties compared to the US of A (I don’t know much about Canadian politics). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 598 #11 July 7 On 7/5/2024 at 12:33 PM, dgw said: You might find this interesting. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c2x0g8nkzmzo it wasn’t so much the apparently hard move to the left (Labour) by the public, and more of a split of the conservative vote. In fairness, the civil service run the country, and left and right in the UK are both centre parties compared to the US of A (I don’t know much about Canadian politics). Drifting away from the British theme of this thread. Canada has 4 major federal political parties: Conservative, Liberal, New Democrats and Bloc Quebecouis. Conservatives are - as the name implies - resistant to change and only want to see slow change and only if it benefits big business. Mind you the federal Conservative party over-laps the center aisle of the House of Commons. Conservatives won fewer than half the seats during the last federal election, so got punted to become the "loyal opposition." Similarly, the federal Liberals over-lap the center aisle but are more open to change. Currently, Liberals have the most seats in parliament, but they still need NDP support - in a coalition - to hold power. The New Democrats are slightly to the left/socialist, but the only way the main stream parties can keep the NDP out of power is by adopting their most popular policies like socialized medicine. The Bloc Quebecouis vote for whatever federal policy will send the most money to Quebec. They really do not care what happens outside of Quebec. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
