brenthutch 420 #651 August 16 3 minutes ago, nigel99 said: You said she was never mentioned, that is false. I said it was discussed and consensus was that due to racism and sexism she may struggle to get support (let me be explicit here - we did NOT question competence) You wonder why we think you’re a Trump supporter? Your response to my post was a perfect example of emulating your dear leader. Twist the facts and try and redefine the question. The racism and sexism you speak of was evident in the Democrat primary, where you could count the number of delegates she got on one hand (if that hand had no fingers). This is not my claim, it is what Harris attributed her poor performance to. BTW this racist country voted for a black president twice, so there goes that argument. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nigel99 296 #652 August 16 11 minutes ago, brenthutch said: The racism and sexism you speak of was evident in the Democrat primary, where you could count the number of delegates she got on one hand (if that hand had no fingers). This is not my claim, it is what Harris attributed her poor performance to. BTW this racist country voted for a black president twice, so there goes that argument. Ok so you supported Obama, and the birther movement and other racist bigotry peddled about him at the time was all just imaginary… Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,293 #653 August 16 35 minutes ago, brenthutch said: Lower taxes, a less burdensome regulatory environment, energy independence and a secure border are MAGA values? They are just buzz words. How will you deal with the deficit after lowering taxes? When was the last time the border was "secure"? What does that even mean? Buzz words without any contemplation is indeed very MAGA. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,293 #654 August 16 21 minutes ago, brenthutch said: BTW this racist country voted for a black president twice, so there goes that argument. Ahh, the I have a black friend defense. Never takes long. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,347 #655 August 16 32 minutes ago, brenthutch said: The racism and sexism you speak of was evident in the Democrat primary, where you could count the number of delegates she got on one hand (if that hand had no fingers). Right - so the Democrat party is so racist (after voting for Obama twice which proves they're definitely not racist) that it wouldn't choose Kamala but also so beholden to DEI that they couldn't not choose Kamala. Did any of that sound good in your head before you said it out loud? 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,347 #656 August 16 1 hour ago, brenthutch said: For the life of me I can’t figure out why you guys think I am a Trump supporter. And no I didn’t do that intentionally. I deliberately didn't say 'you'. I guess the lack of response to the question means you're resigned to at least another 4 years of the Republican party operating as a division of the Trump Organisation. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
olofscience 463 #657 August 16 (edited) 21 minutes ago, SkyDekker said: They are just buzz words. Have you heard his thing about polar bears and climate change? It's like he practices his buzz words in front of a mirror every evening before bed. Almost like he needs to keep trying to convince himself that it's the truth... Edited August 16 by olofscience Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,293 #658 August 16 This a quote from the non-racist republican candidate for VP: “Has anybody seen the movie Gangs of New York? That’s what I’m talking about. You know that when you have these massive ethnic enclaves in our country, it can lead to higher crime rates.” Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,567 #659 August 16 1 hour ago, brenthutch said: Lower taxes, a less burdensome regulatory environment, energy independence and a secure border are MAGA values? Let's agree they aren't. But racism, misogyny, anti-abortion laws, white supremacy, guns for everyone crazy or not and ammunition vending machines in stores just to name a few certainly are. The belief here is that you are accepting of those things as long as you get what you want on your own personal Christmas list. For that you get a brand. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 420 #660 August 16 6 minutes ago, JoeWeber said: Let's agree they aren't. But racism, misogyny, anti-abortion laws, white supremacy, guns for everyone crazy or not and ammunition vending machines in stores just to name a few certainly are. Other than your fevered imagination, where are these examples of racism, misogyny, white supremacy and ammunition vending machines? Certainly not in the R’s platform. (Sorry Joe) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,347 #661 August 16 Just now, brenthutch said: Other than your fevered imagination, where are these examples of racism, misogyny, white supremacy and ammunition vending machines? Certainly not in the R’s platform. (Sorry Joe) Of course they are. The start, middle and end of the R's platform is Trump. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 420 #662 August 16 1 hour ago, SkyDekker said: This a quote from the non-racist republican candidate for VP: “Has anybody seen the movie Gangs of New York? That’s what I’m talking about. You know that when you have these massive ethnic enclaves in our country, it can lead to higher crime rates.” Those were all white gangs. No racism there. To quote a clever comedian, “why would I be prejudiced against a group of people just because of the way they act?” Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 420 #663 August 16 1 minute ago, jakee said: Of course they are. The start, middle and end of the R's platform is Trump. Yeah, I get it, someone mentions Trump and the red mist ensues, blinded by rage you are unable to cite a single example of racism, misogyny, white supremacy or ammunition vending machines in the R’s platform. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,826 #664 August 16 I don't understand why so many of you waste energy arguing with an obvious, blatant troll. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,567 #665 August 16 7 minutes ago, brenthutch said: Other than your fevered imagination, where are these examples of racism, misogyny, white supremacy and ammunition vending machines? Certainly not in the R’s platform. (Sorry Joe) I'm sorry, I could have sworn you asked if those were MAGA values. I was simply pointing out that your support is also behind some ugly things to get your presents.like it or not. So as long as we have now shape shifted to the R's platform instead, why yes those are R values. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 420 #666 August 16 26 minutes ago, kallend said: I don't understand why so many of you waste energy arguing with an obvious, blatant troll. Your “troll, troll, troll” schtick is getting a bit old. If you would like to contribute something of substance I would be willing to listen, otherwise, IMHO, you are just a tired little man shouting “get off my lawn” Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lippy 867 #667 August 16 1 hour ago, kallend said: I don't understand why so many of you waste energy arguing with an obvious, blatant troll. Yeah I used to toy with it but he’s on the ban list now. He’s rising to Slim-level trolling. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 420 #668 August 16 (edited) 5 minutes ago, lippy said: Yeah I used to toy with it but he’s on the ban list now. He’s rising to Slim-level trolling. Where is the substance? Oh that’s right there is none. You: ”gender is fluid and boys can now get pregnant” Me: no they can’t You (and Kallend) : TROLL TROLL TROLL! Edited August 16 by brenthutch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nigel99 296 #669 August 17 1 hour ago, kallend said: I don't understand why so many of you waste energy arguing with an obvious, blatant troll. I agree it’s a waste of time, I realised that after a bit. I’m not sure it’s trolling though- more some sort of cognitive dissonance with a severely maladaptive response and is a common trait within the maga cult. There’s certainly a lack of integrity and accountability. It’s actually fairly interesting to observe as Trump also does it. There is quite literally no self awareness of the bizarre positions they take. The examples are too numerous to list fully, but here are a few. Attacking Walz for a DUI and his military service, but defending Trump, attacking Harris’s husband for having an affair with his previous wife and the list goes on. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 420 #670 August 17 12 minutes ago, nigel99 said: I agree it’s a waste of time, I realised that after a bit. I’m not sure it’s trolling though- more some sort of cognitive dissonance with a severely maladaptive response and is a common trait within the maga cult. There’s certainly a lack of integrity and accountability. It’s actually fairly interesting to observe as Trump also does it. There is quite literally no self awareness of the bizarre positions they take. The examples are too numerous to list fully, but here are a few. Attacking Walz for a DUI and his military service, but defending Trump, attacking Harris’s husband for having an affair with his previous wife and the list goes on. Can you cite an example of how I defended Trump, attacked Walz for anything, or said anything about Harris’s husband? No you can’t and that makes me sad. You are living in an alternative universe, far far from reality. Put down your crack pipe and take a deep breath and try to rejoin the real world. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nigel99 296 #671 August 17 17 minutes ago, brenthutch said: Can you cite an example of how I defended Trump, attacked Walz for anything, or said anything about Harris’s husband? No you can’t and that makes me sad. You are living in an alternative universe, far far from reality. Put down your crack pipe and take a deep breath and try to rejoin the real world. Ok I’m an idiot for replying to this. The examples I gave were a generalisation of the group you identify with and are part of. To put the concept of generalisation in simpler terms for you. When people talk about a group, like ‘children,’ they might say things that sound like they’re talking about everyone in that group, even if it’s not true for every child. For example, if someone says, ‘Children draw on walls,’ they don’t mean that you did it, just that children do. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 420 #672 August 17 (edited) 18 minutes ago, nigel99 said: Ok I’m an idiot for replying to this. The examples I gave were a generalisation of the group you identify with and are part of. To put the concept of generalisation in simpler terms for you. When people talk about a group, like ‘children,’ they might say things that sound like they’re talking about everyone in that group, even if it’s not true for every child. For example, if someone says, ‘Children draw on walls,’ they don’t mean that you did it, just that children do. So you got nothing, I understand. I suspected as much. Edited August 17 by brenthutch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,739 #673 August 17 3 hours ago, nigel99 said: I’m not sure it’s trolling though- It's trolling. He's admitted that at least twice. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nigel99 296 #674 August 17 7 minutes ago, billvon said: It's trolling. He's admitted that at least twice. I didn’t realise that thanks. Well I’ve got zero interest in wasting my time, I enjoy seeing other points of view when they are authentic, but trolling benefits nobody but the troll. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,567 #675 August 17 10 minutes ago, billvon said: It's trolling. He's admitted that at least twice. Seriously, so what? Sure he's fishing for reactions but just being sophisticated and subtle doesn't make it not trolling. We're all looking for a reaction of some type, that's reality. Also, just because a thing has an expanding internet definition doesn't mean it's just plain awful. Sure Brent is often jerking chains but as often he's proclaiming what he truly believes. Maybe others want to block him over the trivial difference but I'll take a little chain jerking to engage on the stuff he's really wrong about. How else will I change the world? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites