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27 minutes ago, Phil1111 said:

The latest polling shows that 60% of democrats agree with Jerry that Biden should withdraw. In addition 70 % of Americans don't think that Biden can win including nearly 1/2 of democrats. Only 37% of democrats think Biden can win.

All of these figures don't bode well for democrat turnout.

Hi Phil,

As you posted:  Polls show Democratic voters breaking with Biden as nominee | Semafor

Jerry Baumchen

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29 minutes ago, JerryBaumchen said:

The dems have to unite against someone new. The US is in for a shit show over the next 12 months minimum. Trump is exploiting the assassination attempt and if anything has amplified his violent rhetoric. 

If he loses he is going to incite violence, knowing that the SC will protect him. If he wins you’re in for a wild ride. Maybe Mexico will pay for the wall - to keep the illegal immigrants out of Mexico after November!

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Kelly and Moore won’t energize the seriously progressive (I have cousins in that camp), but I’m counting on astronaut notoriety helping with that. And they would have to take on at least one seriously progressive cause, because they all vote.

Wendy P. 

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1 hour ago, wmw999 said:

Kelly and Moore won’t energize the seriously progressive (I have cousins in that camp), but I’m counting on astronaut notoriety helping with that. And they would have to take on at least one seriously progressive cause, because they all vote.

Wendy P. 

Would they not vote, giving half votes to Trump, or just vote for Trump in a progressive suicide pact? 

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Just now, wmw999 said:

Much more likely simply not to vote. Again, at least based on my hyper-progressive cousins.

Wendy P.

Are they all males? WTF? Not gay and no gay friends? Being progressive is about a lot more than recycling and spotted owls if they aren't aware. 

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Hi folks,

I have had the unfortunate task of taking the cars keys away from a parent.  Others of you here, have had to do this also.  And, others of you here, will have to do it.

The Biden family is getting there:  There was a much more dignified way to do this if this is what they wanted,” a Biden ally said. “This is no way to treat a public servant who has done a lot for this country.

Biden's family starts discussing his possible exit plan from the 2024 race (nbcnews.com)

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3 hours ago, JerryBaumchen said:

Hi folks,

I have had the unfortunate task of taking the cars keys away from a parent.  Others of you here, have had to do this also.  And, others of you here, will have to do it.

The Biden family is getting there:  There was a much more dignified way to do this if this is what they wanted,” a Biden ally said. “This is no way to treat a public servant who has done a lot for this country.

Biden's family starts discussing his possible exit plan from the 2024 race (nbcnews.com)

Jerry Baumchen

 

 

My step dad was a very good driver. In his mid 70’s he started having fender benders. I visited them and he insisted on picking me up from Heathrow and in the middle lane of the M25 (probably the busiest motorway in the Uk) he got confused and disoriented and just stopped. 
 

Unfortunately we all age and cognitive functioning declines. The most dignity we can give our elders is to support them and kindly help them with compassion and not allow them to make fools of themselves.

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About the only option that gives a viable path to the oval office for the Dems is Hillary Clinton.

There are enough people who feel she won when she last run that she has some built-in momentum.

There are more competent people than her, but nobody who can get over the finish line in two months.

Our options are thus corrupt, incompetent or evil.  I hope we choose wisely.

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15 hours ago, nigel99 said:

My step dad was a very good driver. In his mid 70’s he started having fender benders. I visited them and he insisted on picking me up from Heathrow and in the middle lane of the M25 (probably the busiest motorway in the Uk) he got confused and disoriented and just stopped. 
 

Unfortunately we all age and cognitive functioning declines. The most dignity we can give our elders is to support them and kindly help them with compassion and not allow them to make fools of themselves.

They get it and are usually understanding of your good intentions. For example, when I told my Dad he could no longer go bombing around the valley in the 182 he didn't say a negative word about it for the entire two years he wouldn't talk to me.

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1 hour ago, JoeWeber said:

They get it and are usually understanding of your good intentions. For example, when I told my Dad he could no longer go bombing around the valley in the 182 he didn't say a negative word about it for the entire two years he wouldn't talk to me.

My dad actually gave his own up. He developed wet macular degeneration, and basically lost about 60% of his sight overnight. He tried driving once, and said never again. He was very proud of having given up his driver's license on his own.

Wendy P.

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Hi folks,

( Biden ) did not immediately endorse Vice President Harris or any other candidate to be the party’s nominee in November.

Joe Biden withdraws from race in election earthquake (thehill.com)

I am so glad that he chose to not endorse anyone.

I would prefer a totally open primary with no one as the 'heir apparent.'

Yes, that means you V-P Harris.

Jerry Baumchen

ETA:  Looks like the news still cannot get anything straight:  Today I want to offer my full support and endorsement for Kamala to be the nominee of our party this year.

Joe Biden withdraws from US presidential race in massive 2024 shakeup | Semafor

 

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21 minutes ago, JerryBaumchen said:

Hi folks,

( Biden ) did not immediately endorse Vice President Harris or any other candidate to be the party’s nominee in November.

Joe Biden withdraws from race in election earthquake (thehill.com)

I am so glad that he chose to not endorse anyone.

I would prefer a totally open primary with no one as the 'heir apparent.'

Yes, that means you V-P Harris.

Jerry Baumchen

ETA:  Looks like the news still cannot get anything straight:  Today I want to offer my full support and endorsement for Kamala to be the nominee of our party this year.

Joe Biden withdraws from US presidential race in massive 2024 shakeup | Semafor

 

Well, Jerry, you did it!

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Just now, JerryBaumchen said:

Hi folks,

( Biden ) did not immediately endorse Vice President Harris or any other candidate to be the party’s nominee in November.

Joe Biden withdraws from race in election earthquake (thehill.com)

I am so glad that he chose to not endorse anyone.

I would prefer a totally open primary with no one as the 'heir apparent.'

Yes, that means you V-P Harris.

Jerry Baumchen

ETA:  Looks like the news still cannot get anything straight:  Today I want to offer my full support and endorsement for Kamala to be the nominee of our party this year.

Joe Biden withdraws from US presidential race in massive 2024 shakeup | Semafor

 

Not quite. 

Biden followed the letter up with a post endorsing Vice President Kamala Harris for the Democratic nomination. “Today I want to offer my full support and endorsement for Kamala to be the nominee of our party this year,” he wrote. “Democrats—it’s time to come together and beat Trump. Let’s do this.”

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32 minutes ago, JoeWeber said:

Not quite. 

Biden followed the letter up with a post endorsing Vice President Kamala Harris for the Democratic nomination. “Today I want to offer my full support and endorsement for Kamala to be the nominee of our party this year,” he wrote. “Democrats—it’s time to come together and beat Trump. Let’s do this.”

Hi Joe,

Maybe she called him.

Jerry Baumchen

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1 hour ago, JerryBaumchen said:

Hi folks,

( Biden ) did not immediately endorse Vice President Harris or any other candidate to be the party’s nominee in November.

Joe Biden withdraws from race in election earthquake (thehill.com)

I am so glad that he chose to not endorse anyone.

I would prefer a totally open primary with no one as the 'heir apparent.'

Yes, that means you V-P Harris.

Jerry Baumchen

ETA:  Looks like the news still cannot get anything straight:  Today I want to offer my full support and endorsement for Kamala to be the nominee of our party this year.

Joe Biden withdraws from US presidential race in massive 2024 shakeup | Semafor

 

As I’ve said before I think watching the bookies odds is more accurate and informative than the polls - not that I gamble, never have and never will.

Before the debate Trump/Biden were pretty evenly split, with Trump slightly ahead. After the debate Biden tanked and it was 10:1 and Harris 7:1. Less than 24 hours after Biden withdrawing and things are looking much better.

On a separate note, Mike Johnson is a creepy, cult like snake. I really don’t like and think it’s disgusting he’s called on Biden to step down immediately. 

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32 minutes ago, nigel99 said:

As I’ve said before I think watching the bookies odds is more accurate and informative than the polls - not that I gamble, never have and never will.

Before the debate Trump/Biden were pretty evenly split, with Trump slightly ahead. After the debate Biden tanked and it was 10:1 and Harris 7:1. Less than 24 hours after Biden withdrawing and things are looking much better.

On a separate note, Mike Johnson is a creepy, cult like snake. I really don’t like and think it’s disgusting he’s called on Biden to step down immediately. 

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Hi Nigel,

IMO it would really give her a lot of support if Biden were to resign.

She then would be the incumbent; and, that means a lot come 5 Nov.

Jerry Baumchen

PS)  Plus she could pick her own V-P.

 

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