JerryBaumchen 1,340 #526 July 17 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Phil1111 said: The latest polling shows that 60% of democrats agree with Jerry that Biden should withdraw. In addition 70 % of Americans don't think that Biden can win including nearly 1/2 of democrats. Only 37% of democrats think Biden can win. All of these figures don't bode well for democrat turnout. Hi Phil, As you posted: Polls show Democratic voters breaking with Biden as nominee | Semafor Jerry Baumchen Edited July 17 by JerryBaumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nigel99 416 #527 July 18 29 minutes ago, JerryBaumchen said: Hi Phil, As you posted: Polls show Democratic voters breaking with Biden as nominee | Semafor Jerry Baumchen The dems have to unite against someone new. The US is in for a shit show over the next 12 months minimum. Trump is exploiting the assassination attempt and if anything has amplified his violent rhetoric. If he loses he is going to incite violence, knowing that the SC will protect him. If he wins you’re in for a wild ride. Maybe Mexico will pay for the wall - to keep the illegal immigrants out of Mexico after November! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,246 #528 July 18 15 hours ago, wmw999 said: Kelly and Moore I like how you think. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,385 #529 July 18 Kelly and Moore won’t energize the seriously progressive (I have cousins in that camp), but I’m counting on astronaut notoriety helping with that. And they would have to take on at least one seriously progressive cause, because they all vote. Wendy P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,691 #530 July 18 1 hour ago, wmw999 said: Kelly and Moore won’t energize the seriously progressive (I have cousins in that camp), but I’m counting on astronaut notoriety helping with that. And they would have to take on at least one seriously progressive cause, because they all vote. Wendy P. Would they not vote, giving half votes to Trump, or just vote for Trump in a progressive suicide pact? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,385 #531 July 18 Much more likely simply not to vote. Again, at least based on my hyper-progressive cousins. Wendy P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,691 #532 July 18 Just now, wmw999 said: Much more likely simply not to vote. Again, at least based on my hyper-progressive cousins. Wendy P. Are they all males? WTF? Not gay and no gay friends? Being progressive is about a lot more than recycling and spotted owls if they aren't aware. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,340 #533 July 19 Hi folks, I have had the unfortunate task of taking the cars keys away from a parent. Others of you here, have had to do this also. And, others of you here, will have to do it. The Biden family is getting there: There was a much more dignified way to do this if this is what they wanted,” a Biden ally said. “This is no way to treat a public servant who has done a lot for this country. Biden's family starts discussing his possible exit plan from the 2024 race (nbcnews.com) Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nigel99 416 #534 July 20 3 hours ago, JerryBaumchen said: Hi folks, I have had the unfortunate task of taking the cars keys away from a parent. Others of you here, have had to do this also. And, others of you here, will have to do it. The Biden family is getting there: There was a much more dignified way to do this if this is what they wanted,” a Biden ally said. “This is no way to treat a public servant who has done a lot for this country. Biden's family starts discussing his possible exit plan from the 2024 race (nbcnews.com) Jerry Baumchen My step dad was a very good driver. In his mid 70’s he started having fender benders. I visited them and he insisted on picking me up from Heathrow and in the middle lane of the M25 (probably the busiest motorway in the Uk) he got confused and disoriented and just stopped. Unfortunately we all age and cognitive functioning declines. The most dignity we can give our elders is to support them and kindly help them with compassion and not allow them to make fools of themselves. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 235 #535 July 20 About the only option that gives a viable path to the oval office for the Dems is Hillary Clinton. There are enough people who feel she won when she last run that she has some built-in momentum. There are more competent people than her, but nobody who can get over the finish line in two months. Our options are thus corrupt, incompetent or evil. I hope we choose wisely. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,935 #536 July 20 It's a pity Keith Richards is ineligible. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,691 #537 July 20 15 hours ago, nigel99 said: My step dad was a very good driver. In his mid 70’s he started having fender benders. I visited them and he insisted on picking me up from Heathrow and in the middle lane of the M25 (probably the busiest motorway in the Uk) he got confused and disoriented and just stopped. Unfortunately we all age and cognitive functioning declines. The most dignity we can give our elders is to support them and kindly help them with compassion and not allow them to make fools of themselves. They get it and are usually understanding of your good intentions. For example, when I told my Dad he could no longer go bombing around the valley in the 182 he didn't say a negative word about it for the entire two years he wouldn't talk to me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,385 #538 July 20 1 hour ago, JoeWeber said: They get it and are usually understanding of your good intentions. For example, when I told my Dad he could no longer go bombing around the valley in the 182 he didn't say a negative word about it for the entire two years he wouldn't talk to me. My dad actually gave his own up. He developed wet macular degeneration, and basically lost about 60% of his sight overnight. He tried driving once, and said never again. He was very proud of having given up his driver's license on his own. Wendy P. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,340 #539 July 21 Hi folks, Some info on those who might want to join the effort to get Joe Biden off of the ticket: Pass the torch, Joe! Petition (passthetorchbiden.com) Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,340 #540 July 21 (edited) Hi folks, ( Biden ) did not immediately endorse Vice President Harris or any other candidate to be the party’s nominee in November. Joe Biden withdraws from race in election earthquake (thehill.com) I am so glad that he chose to not endorse anyone. I would prefer a totally open primary with no one as the 'heir apparent.' Yes, that means you V-P Harris. Jerry Baumchen ETA: Looks like the news still cannot get anything straight: Today I want to offer my full support and endorsement for Kamala to be the nominee of our party this year. Joe Biden withdraws from US presidential race in massive 2024 shakeup | Semafor Edited July 21 by JerryBaumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,935 #541 July 21 21 minutes ago, JerryBaumchen said: Hi folks, ( Biden ) did not immediately endorse Vice President Harris or any other candidate to be the party’s nominee in November. Joe Biden withdraws from race in election earthquake (thehill.com) I am so glad that he chose to not endorse anyone. I would prefer a totally open primary with no one as the 'heir apparent.' Yes, that means you V-P Harris. Jerry Baumchen ETA: Looks like the news still cannot get anything straight: Today I want to offer my full support and endorsement for Kamala to be the nominee of our party this year. Joe Biden withdraws from US presidential race in massive 2024 shakeup | Semafor Well, Jerry, you did it! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,691 #542 July 21 Just now, JerryBaumchen said: Hi folks, ( Biden ) did not immediately endorse Vice President Harris or any other candidate to be the party’s nominee in November. Joe Biden withdraws from race in election earthquake (thehill.com) I am so glad that he chose to not endorse anyone. I would prefer a totally open primary with no one as the 'heir apparent.' Yes, that means you V-P Harris. Jerry Baumchen ETA: Looks like the news still cannot get anything straight: Today I want to offer my full support and endorsement for Kamala to be the nominee of our party this year. Joe Biden withdraws from US presidential race in massive 2024 shakeup | Semafor Not quite. Biden followed the letter up with a post endorsing Vice President Kamala Harris for the Democratic nomination. “Today I want to offer my full support and endorsement for Kamala to be the nominee of our party this year,” he wrote. “Democrats—it’s time to come together and beat Trump. Let’s do this.” Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,340 #543 July 21 (edited) 1 hour ago, kallend said: Well, Jerry, you did it! Hi John, I am but one vote, nothing more. Jerry Baumchen PS) A little while ago, I sent a message to the White House thanking Joe for what he chose to do. Edited July 21 by JerryBaumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,340 #544 July 21 32 minutes ago, JoeWeber said: Not quite. Biden followed the letter up with a post endorsing Vice President Kamala Harris for the Democratic nomination. “Today I want to offer my full support and endorsement for Kamala to be the nominee of our party this year,” he wrote. “Democrats—it’s time to come together and beat Trump. Let’s do this.” Hi Joe, Maybe she called him. Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,691 #545 July 21 Just now, JerryBaumchen said: Hi Joe, Maybe she called him. Jerry Baumchen No matter, now it's our turn. Say her name! President Harris. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,691 #546 July 21 Just now, JerryBaumchen said: Hi Joe, Maybe she called him. Jerry Baumchen Well, let the games begin: who does she choose for VP? Tim Kaine? Barack Obama? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nigel99 416 #547 July 21 1 hour ago, JerryBaumchen said: Hi folks, ( Biden ) did not immediately endorse Vice President Harris or any other candidate to be the party’s nominee in November. Joe Biden withdraws from race in election earthquake (thehill.com) I am so glad that he chose to not endorse anyone. I would prefer a totally open primary with no one as the 'heir apparent.' Yes, that means you V-P Harris. Jerry Baumchen ETA: Looks like the news still cannot get anything straight: Today I want to offer my full support and endorsement for Kamala to be the nominee of our party this year. Joe Biden withdraws from US presidential race in massive 2024 shakeup | Semafor As I’ve said before I think watching the bookies odds is more accurate and informative than the polls - not that I gamble, never have and never will. Before the debate Trump/Biden were pretty evenly split, with Trump slightly ahead. After the debate Biden tanked and it was 10:1 and Harris 7:1. Less than 24 hours after Biden withdrawing and things are looking much better. On a separate note, Mike Johnson is a creepy, cult like snake. I really don’t like and think it’s disgusting he’s called on Biden to step down immediately. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,340 #548 July 21 38 minutes ago, JoeWeber said: No matter, now it's our turn. Say her name! President Harris. Hi Joe, At this moment, I think she is a shoe-in to get it. Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,340 #549 July 21 31 minutes ago, JoeWeber said: Well, let the games begin: who does she choose for VP? Tim Kaine? Barack Obama? Hi Joe, My daughter says it should be Mark Kelly. IMO Harris could not go wrong with him on the ticket. Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,340 #550 July 21 (edited) 32 minutes ago, nigel99 said: As I’ve said before I think watching the bookies odds is more accurate and informative than the polls - not that I gamble, never have and never will. Before the debate Trump/Biden were pretty evenly split, with Trump slightly ahead. After the debate Biden tanked and it was 10:1 and Harris 7:1. Less than 24 hours after Biden withdrawing and things are looking much better. On a separate note, Mike Johnson is a creepy, cult like snake. I really don’t like and think it’s disgusting he’s called on Biden to step down immediately. Hi Nigel, IMO it would really give her a lot of support if Biden were to resign. She then would be the incumbent; and, that means a lot come 5 Nov. Jerry Baumchen PS) Plus she could pick her own V-P. Edited July 21 by JerryBaumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites