Who will replace Biden?

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39 minutes ago, tkhayes said:

America is not electing a woman (yet).  We elected a black man before we elected a woman.  Christian hierarchy mostly.  It cannot happen in a country where even the left has evangelical christians that think women should be in the kitchen

Having said that, if she suddenly replaced Biden on the ticket, I think the vast majority of democrats and democrat leaning folks would fall in line.  Trouble is the unknown middle and of course the extreme right would get louder with the nigger-yelling.  that might actually work in favor of the democrats, who knows.  such a strange dynamic given the Proud Boys, the KKK, the Oath Keepers and the exclusively white evangelical christians.

Wow, you are truly a damaged soul. I genuinely hope you find the help you need, to find solace. (Not Kidding)

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22 minutes ago, JerryBaumchen said:

Hi Joe,

Just another opportunist; as if, they are not all the same.

IMO JDV does not help Trump in the election.  Nor did Harris in 2020; oh OK, maybe just a little bit.

As I continue to say, this election will be decided by those 'undecided' voters in only a handful of states.

Not by the voters in Oregon; that means you & me.

I will still vote, as it is very important to me, but Oregon is a TrueBlue state.  As are Washington & California.

Now, let's get back to Who Will Replace Biden?

Jerry Baumchen

 

The only possible replacement for Biden is Harris. The only reason that has not happened is Harris is less popular than Biden. Don’t forget that the Democrats rejected her before a single vote was cast and she blamed the racists and misogynists in the Democrat party. Her unpopularity aside, she cannot be replaced at risk of upsetting the black female voter, a block with which the Ds cannot survive 

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Just now, brenthutch said:

The only possible replacement for Biden is Harris. The only reason that has not happened is Harris is less popular than Biden. Don’t forget that the Democrats rejected her before a single vote was cast and she blamed the racists and misogynists in the Democrat party. Her unpopularity aside, she cannot be replaced at risk of upsetting the black female voter, a block with which the Ds cannot survive 

That is exactly what I've been bleating all along. Wishing it wasn't so changes nada. Then also there are 20 R led states with ballot powers that need to be considered. It's just a royal clusterfuck and the only hope is a Biden victory in November. As I said, maybe Merchan can help or even Chutkan but otherwise it's vote and hope.

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3 minutes ago, JoeWeber said:

That is exactly what I've been bleating all along. Wishing it wasn't so changes nada. Then also there are 20 R led states with ballot powers that need to be considered. It's just a royal clusterfuck and the only hope is a Biden victory in November. As I said, maybe Merchan can help or even Chutkan but otherwise it's vote and hope.

That is what we get when DEI is deemed more important than merit.

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Just now, brenthutch said:

That is what we get when DEI is deemed more important than merit.

DEI is very important to the groups represented and thus also good business as well as good politics. 

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Biden will stay in.  He will win in November.

 

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4 minutes ago, headoverheels said:

Biden will stay in.  He will win in November.

 

Bless your heart 

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6 minutes ago, headoverheels said:

Biden will stay in.  He will win in November.

 

When Hell freezes over.....wait, even if Hell did freeze over he wouldn't win!

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1 hour ago, JoeWeber said:

DEI is very important to the groups represented and thus also good business as well as good politics. 

Well then say hello to President Harris

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Just now, brenthutch said:

Well then say hello to President Harris

When Biden took Harris at Clyburn’s suggestion it invigorated his campaign and ultimately gave us victory over Trump. What would you have me do? Wish that had never happened and Trump had won?  So do I like what the guages are reading? Nope, but it’s what we have so we need to work with it.

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1 minute ago, JoeWeber said:

When Biden took Harris at Clyburn’s suggestion it invigorated his campaign and ultimately gave us victory over Trump. What would you have me do? Wish that had never happened and Trump had won?  So do I like what the guages are reading? Nope, but it’s what we have so we need to work with it.

Clyburn, a party boss, put his thumb on the scales and subverted the democratic process, the same thing happened with HRC. You get the nominee/s you deserve and to quote pastor Jeremiah Wright, “the chickens have come home to roost”

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3 hours ago, brenthutch said:

That is what we get when DEI is deemed more important than merit.

DEI gave us veteran's hospitals, handicapped parking, curb cuts and mixed-race schools.  In many cases it ended discrimination against blacks, gays and Muslims.  

All of which is why the far right wing is so opposed to it.  Without their priviledge, they are just like the people they despise - the "lazy, shiftless" blacks, the "rapist" Mexicans, the "mentally ill" Muslims and LGBT folks, and the "loser" veterans.

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4 hours ago, billvon said:

DEI gave us veteran's hospitals

? DEI didn't come to be in the VA until a pilot program in 2022. Pretty sure it was Lincoln who gave us VA Hospitals. 

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When it comes to injuries in the service of the country, Duckworth has Trump trumped.

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1 hour ago, kallend said:

When it comes to injuries in the service of the country, Duckworth has Trump trumped.

Service TO your country. Trump was serving himself. 

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2 hours ago, kallend said:

When it comes to injuries in the service of the country, Duckworth has Trump trumped.

You make light of BONE SPURS?  You should be ashamed.

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11 hours ago, brenthutch said:

Wow, you are truly a damaged soul. I genuinely hope you find the help you need, to find solace. (Not Kidding)

did I say something incorrect?  

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1 hour ago, tkhayes said:

did I say something incorrect?  

It’s going to be OK, Trump is a showman and blow hard, not Satan in human form. I was joking when I said Trump would suspend the Constitution, declare himself emperor for life, outlaw opposition parties and declare war on everyone except North Korea and Russia. You seem to think that would actually happen.

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1 hour ago, brenthutch said:

It’s going to be OK, Trump is a showman and blow hard, not Satan in human form. I was joking when I said Trump would suspend the Constitution, declare himself emperor for life, outlaw opposition parties and declare war on everyone except North Korea and Russia. You seem to think that would actually happen.

thanks for not answering my question..... I have come to expect that from you.

Trump did in fact suggest suspending parts of the constitution.  And he is in fact, 'Satan in human form'.  He attempted to overthrow an election and still to this day denies the outcome of the election.  He did in fact steal millions from his charity, his corporation did indeed get convicted of 13 felony counts of fraud, his associates and confidants are in fact convicted felons...  I could go on with a dozen other factual examples or more, 

Of course you, like all the other trumpie supporting types cannot even bring yourselves to admit that these things happened, thus saving you the respectful civic duty of justifying your support for this human piece of fucking garbage seditious cunt.

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28 minutes ago, tkhayes said:

thanks for not answering my question..... I have come to expect that from you.

Trump did in fact suggest suspending parts of the constitution.  And he is in fact, 'Satan in human form'.  He attempted to overthrow an election and still to this day denies the outcome of the election.  He did in fact steal millions from his charity, his corporation did indeed get convicted of 13 felony counts of fraud, his associates and confidants are in fact convicted felons...  I could go on with a dozen other factual examples or more, 

Of course you, like all the other trumpie supporting types cannot even bring yourselves to admit that these things happened, thus saving you the respectful civic duty of justifying your support for this human piece of fucking garbage seditious cunt.

Plus he is a rapist.

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1 hour ago, tkhayes said:

Trump did in fact suggest suspending parts of the constitution. 

Yep.  I believe the term he used was "terminate."  Which is no surprise, because he has also stated that parts of the Constitution are "phony."

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(SD said) Plus he is a rapist.

That's the biggest issue for me.  You can say stupid stuff about the Constitution or threaten to throw journalists in jail.  That could be some rhetorical trick to attract the extremists.  But you can't follow a woman into a store, plan to rape her, then execute your plan unless you are inherently evil.

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I honestly don't understand how the Democrats aren't hammering this point. I don't understand why Biden in the debate didn't constantly bring up felony convictions and him being a rapist.

There is no "high road" to take when you are wrestling pigs in the mud.

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1 minute ago, SkyDekker said:

I honestly don't understand how the Democrats aren't hammering this point. I don't understand why Biden in the debate didn't constantly bring up felony convictions and him being a rapist.

There is no "high road" to take when you are wrestling pigs in the mud.

Am I missing something in this rhetoric?  I do not recall a conviction for rape at anytime but if I am wrong please correct me.

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1 minute ago, SCS422 said:

Am I missing something in this rhetoric?  I do not recall a conviction for rape at anytime but if I am wrong please correct me.

I am not surprised you don't recall this.

 

"Dismissing the counterclaim, a judge in New York, Lewis A Kaplan, said that when Carroll repeated her allegation that Trump raped her, her words were “substantially true”. Kaplan also set out in detail why it may be said that Trump raped Carroll."

Guardian article

Court document (pdf)

 

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13 minutes ago, SCS422 said:

Am I missing something in this rhetoric?  I do not recall a conviction for rape at anytime but if I am wrong please correct me.

No one said he was convicted of rape.  The statute of limitations has expired, so he can't be convicted of that crime.

We DID say he is a rapist.  He raped E. Jean Carroll 28 years ago.  He said he didn't; two separate and independent civil juries determined that he was lying, and that he did indeed rape her.