Who will replace Biden?

[JoeWeber 2,527]

Just now, billvon said:

For some that's true.  I have used two so far who were not like that, and who helped with whatever problem I was having.

Hmm.., I'd guess you were tough to crack.

[BIGUN 1,229]

1 hour ago, kallend said:

I'm a doctor.

"Doctor" is a title going back to 1213 and is a license to teach, originally authorized by the pope.  The PhD dates back to 1652.  

You are correct. The conversation was regarding medical doctors. Anyone with a PhD has my utmost respect. 

[JoeWeber 2,527]

Just now, BIGUN said:

You are correct. The conversation was regarding medical doctors. Anyone with a PhD has my utmost respect. 

Sure but if they can't script oxy what good are they?

[JerryBaumchen 1,243]

50 minutes ago, gowlerk said:

Their business model is to develop you into a client who depends on them and schedules regular treatments. Preferably for life. A qualified physiotherapist gives you a treatment plan designed to help you move along. The ones I know personally are also antivaxxers and see real doctors and medical practitioners as enemies.

Hi Ken,

As I said, charlatans.  I've never been to one & never will. 

Jerry Baumchen 

[lippy 855]

6 hours ago, brenthutch said:

Looks like Biden is staying and in a fighting mood. He was feisty on Morning Joe this AM. Confused, nonsensical and unable to form a cogent sentence but still very feisty 

I don’t know any more about their internal planning than you do, but I don’t put too much stock in his saying he’s staying in. 
 

If the campaign’s plan is to put Biden out hard for a week or so to see if he can turn this around while they evaluate potential alternatives, they’re going to say the exact same thing they’re saying now. 

[tkhayes 243]

On 7/7/2024 at 3:59 PM, brenthutch said:

I predict the highest turnout in history, the Ds don’t like Biden but they loathe Trump. (did Biden get millions of votes more than Obama because he was massively popular or was it hate directed towards Trump) Some Rs are rabid Trump supporters, some are ambivalent but would rather have someone who doesn’t want to “defeat Medicare”.  On one hand, as seen by the Ds Trump represents an existential threat to Democracy on the other hand as seen by Rs a vote for Biden equals a vote for a severely diminished old man or a VP Harris. Both dynamics will drive voter turnout and a few billion in campaign cash won’t hurt either.

and 1/3 of the country are independents and centrists that do not care enough to be bothered to vote, in this election, for all the reasons you stated.

 

[brenthutch 416]

5 minutes ago, lippy said:

I don’t know any more about their internal planning than you do, but I don’t put too much stock in his saying he’s staying in. 
 

If the campaign’s plan is to put Biden out hard for a week or so to see if he can turn this around while they evaluate potential alternatives, they’re going to say the exact same thing they’re saying now. 

Apparently they have conducted internal polling and have found Biden to be performing better than the alternatives, still loosing but doing better than Harris, Whitmer, Shapiro, Newsom, et al. At this point they are going to stick with the horse that brung em. Although that could change given how today’s White House press briefing went.

[Phil1111 1,054]

8 minutes ago, lippy said:

I don’t know any more about their internal planning than you do, but I don’t put too much stock in his saying he’s staying in.

If the campaign’s plan is to put Biden out hard for a week or so to see if he can turn this around while they evaluate potential alternatives, they’re going to say the exact same thing they’re saying now. 

100% correct. Biden is in it until he isn't  He is certainly not going to show a lack of confidence while he is trying to keep everyone onboard.

[brenthutch 416]

9 minutes ago, Phil1111 said:

100% correct. Biden is in it until he isn't  He is certainly not going to show a lack of confidence while he is trying to keep everyone onboard.

The problem is that if he continues to falter, the clock is ticking on ramping up a new campaign. Not to mention the horrible optics of the Ds having lied to the public for years regarding the competence at  the top of their ticket.

Edited July 9 by brenthutch

[JerryBaumchen 1,243]

19 minutes ago, lippy said:

I don’t know any more about their internal planning than you do, but I don’t put too much stock in his saying he’s staying in. 
 

If the campaign’s plan is to put Biden out hard for a week or so to see if he can turn this around while they evaluate potential alternatives, they’re going to say the exact same thing they’re saying now. 

Hi Lippy,

Biden is trying to push water upstream.  He cannot change what we all saw at the debate.

His health is not going to get better.  Only, worse; and, at what rate?

It is the future for all of us.

Mother Nature makes the rules; and, she enforces them.

Jerry Baumchen

[Phil1111 1,054]

3 minutes ago, brenthutch said:

The problem is that if he continues to falter, the clock is ticking on ramping up a new campaign. Not to mention the horrible optics of the Ds having lied to the public for years regarding the competence at  the top of their ticket.

Lied for years???? Biden has done a fine job as president so what were these lies that the D's were telling? Biden likely has issues going forward with regards to his cognitive functioning.

Trump on the other hand will be Trump until the Big Mac tunes him out in a massive coronary.

[JoeWeber 2,527]

Just now, Phil1111 said:

100% correct. Biden is in it until he isn't  He is certainly not going to show a lack of confidence while he is trying to keep everyone onboard.

He’s in for this week, anyway. It’s NATO meeting week. Let’s see how that goes.

[JerryBaumchen 1,243]

6 minutes ago, JoeWeber said:

He’s in for this week, anyway. It’s NATO meeting week. Let’s see how that goes.

Hi Joe,

And, this is getting interesting:  'Blitz primary' could open up Democratic race if Biden drops out | Semafor

Jerry Baumchen

[brenthutch 416]

36 minutes ago, Phil1111 said:

Lied for years???? Biden has done a fine job as president so what were these lies that the D's were telling? Biden likely has issues going forward with regards to his cognitive functioning.

Trump on the other hand will be Trump until the Big Mac tunes him out in a massive coronary.

“He just has a stutter” “that’s just Joe being Joe” “he is engaged and brilliant behind closed doors” 

[JoeWeber 2,527]

Just now, JerryBaumchen said:

Hi Joe,

And, this is getting interesting:  'Blitz primary' could open up Democratic race if Biden drops out | Semafor

Jerry Baumchen

It’s interesting where other plans aren’t only because it recognizes in point 1 that the plan will need the backing of Harris. At least they recognize that much. As I said, she won’t go quietly into the night. 

[BIGUN 1,229]

Only nine out of 28 policies that respondents were asked about had net positive support, the YouGov survey found.

Calls to eliminate the Department of Education did not prove popular amongst the YouGov survey's respondents: 58 percent said they "strongly or somewhat oppose" the plan.

Nearly 60 percent of people disagree with cutting taxes on corporations, according to YouGov.

Fifty-six percent of respondents opposed ending the ACA.

Fifty-nine percent of respondents in the YouGov survey were opposed to "changing the law to allow presidents to fire civil service workers for any reason."

I found this article to be fair and unbiased. 

https://www.newsweek.com/project-2025-how-popular-are-policies-trump-proposals-second-term-1919663

[Phil1111 1,054]

12 minutes ago, BIGUN said:

Only nine out of 28 policies that respondents were asked about had net positive support, the YouGov survey found.

Calls to eliminate the Department of Education did not prove popular amongst the YouGov survey's respondents: 58 percent said they "strongly or somewhat oppose" the plan.

Nearly 60 percent of people disagree with cutting taxes on corporations, according to YouGov.

Fifty-six percent of respondents opposed ending the ACA.

Fifty-nine percent of respondents in the YouGov survey were opposed to "changing the law to allow presidents to fire civil service workers for any reason."

I found this article to be fair and unbiased. 

https://www.newsweek.com/project-2025-how-popular-are-policies-trump-proposals-second-term-1919663

Thats it in a nutshell yet Trump leads Biden in polling. Trump stated "I know nothing about Project 2025. I have no idea who is behind it. I disagree with some of the things they're saying and some of the things they're saying are absolutely ridiculous and abysmal. Anything they do, I wish them luck, but I have nothing to do with them."  Does anybody here think that this is truthful?

[BIGUN 1,229]

7 minutes ago, Phil1111 said:

Does anybody here think that this is truthful?

Depends. Did he say it on Truth Social, cause you know it's in the name right?

Sorry. Lame attempt at humor this morning.   

[Phil1111 1,054]

20 minutes ago, BIGUN said:

Depends. Did he say it on Truth Social, cause you know it's in the name right?

Sorry. Lame attempt at humor this morning.   

Trump is a master of propaganda hence the name Truth Social. Pravda was not named that by coincidence. Its like his walk back on abortion now to appeal to moderates. After election Project 2025 will be front and center. Its my understanding that conservatives have drafted it all. So Trump may not accept all of its platforms. But it will become core to the GOP future under Trump.

[brenthutch 416]

This is from Biden’s post debate recovery tour:

“By the way, I’m proud to be, as I said, the first vice president, first Black woman, to serve with a Black president, proud of the first Black woman in the Supreme Court. There’s just so much that we can do because together we– there’s nothing. Look, this is the United States of America.”

and

“The fact of the matter is how can you assure you’re going to be on, you know, on your way to go, you know, work tomorrow? Age, age wasn’t, you know, the idea that I’m too old.”

Time is running out. The Ds better hurry up and pull a rabbit out of their hat or say hello to President Trump 2.0.

[kallend 1,803]

3 hours ago, Phil1111 said:

  Does anybody here think that this is truthful?

Were his lips moving?

[SkyDekker 1,277]

21 hours ago, SCS422 said:

 

That statement is either ignorant or stupid, explain to me how a society can be built with a two mom or dad family (if you wish to call it that)

IVF, adoption, surrogate are some of the options available.

Are you ignorant of these options?

[billvon 2,687]

21 hours ago, SCS422 said:

That statement is either ignorant or stupid, explain to me how a society can be built with a two mom or dad family (if you wish to call it that)

By having kids and raising them.  Note that sperm is VERY easy to get, and adoption is not hard.

[SCS422 24]

17 minutes ago, SkyDekker said:

IVF, adoption, surrogate are some of the options available.

Are you ignorant of these options?

I quote "society". That implies a multitude of people and damn sure not by IVF, adoption and surrogate.  You may get a few dozen but you are NOT going to build a society using that means.

[SkyDekker 1,277]

Just now, SCS422 said:

I quote "society". That implies a multitude of people and damn sure not by IVF, adoption and surrogate.  You may get a few dozen but you are NOT going to build a society using that means.

You can quote society all you want, doesn't change anything. Also doesn't prove how a married, Christian family with a couple of kids is the only way...as is foreseen in project 2025.

 

I think all of us are old enough to understand you need sperm and a woman to make babies.