brenthutch 427 #326 September 26 1 minute ago, jakee said: That's quite the projection. You cannot find anything I've said that is similar to you blaming the entire post Covid financial situation on Biden. Notice I'm not challenging you to find it - I'm simply stating that you can't. Because, yet again, you're just lying. I lump all of you lefties together, sorry if it doesn’t apply to you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,340 #327 September 26 8 minutes ago, brenthutch said: I lump all of you lefties together, sorry if it doesn’t apply to you. Well there's a problem right there. Ever consider that we may be just as individual as you? Wendy P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 427 #328 September 26 4 minutes ago, wmw999 said: Well there's a problem right there. Ever consider that we may be just as individual as you? Wendy P. Not judging from your posts. For the most part it is standard leftie group-think. (Climate change is going to get us, Biden/Harris good Trump bad, misogyny, racism, homophobia, transphobia, xenophobia are everywhere, coal bad solar good, oil bad wind turbines good, Portland riots peaceful, January 6 threat to Democracy….) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tkhayes 301 #329 September 26 3 minutes ago, brenthutch said: Not judging from your posts. For the most part it is standard leftie group-think. (Climate change is going to get us, Biden/Harris good Trump bad, misogyny, racism, homophobia, transphobia, xenophobia are everywhere, coal bad solar good, oil bad wind turbines good, Portland riots peaceful, January 6 threat to Democracy….) 'peaceful' vs 'threat to democracy' are actual two separate and distinct things, quite unrelated to each other. One was not peaceful, the other was also not peaceful AND a threat to democracy. And yes, Trump is actually all those things, misogyny, racism, homophobia, transphobia, xenophobia Coal is bad, and solar is good, hence why the electric power companies are installing solar like mad and strangely enough they are NOT installing new coal plants. try and keep up. I know reality is not your strong point Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
olofscience 467 #330 September 26 35 minutes ago, brenthutch said: I lump all of you lefties together, sorry if it doesn’t apply to you. I doubt that you'll manage to quote enough of other people's posts to prove what you said though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,789 #331 September 26 45 minutes ago, brenthutch said: I lump all of you lefties together, sorry if it doesn’t apply to you. Hmm. Should I start lumping you together with other conservatives like Trump, George Santos, Joel Greenberg and Ghislaine Maxwell? If that's the case - sucks to hear about you guys' convictions for sex crimes. Thoughts and prayers. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,392 #332 September 26 14 minutes ago, brenthutch said: Not judging from your posts. For the most part it is standard leftie group-think. (Climate change is going to get us, Biden/Harris good Trump bad, misogyny, racism, homophobia, transphobia, xenophobia are everywhere, coal bad solar good, oil bad wind turbines good, Portland riots peaceful, January 6 threat to Democracy….) That's cute and all, but this strategic lashing out is a pretty obvious ruse to distract from the fact that you can't take admitting to yet another lie in such a short space of time. You lied about Covid deaths to make Trump sound good (I mean seriously, have you no shame?). You lied about State shutdowns to make Trump sound good. You lied about the Covid recession to make Trump sound good. You lied about the price of gold to make Trump sound good. You lied about Biden being entirely responsible for any post Covid economic woes the US economy suffered in a time of global recession. Your take on post Covid inflation is that it's all Joe Biden's fault because of all the stimulus which did nothing at all to help the economy and only caused inlfation, unlike the stimulus that Trump did which was literally the absolute perfect amount of stimulus to completely fix the economy without causing any inflation. Aaaand you wanna talk about groupthink? Buddy, you are down the rabbit hole drowning in koolaid. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 427 #333 September 26 (edited) 34 minutes ago, tkhayes said: Coal is bad, and solar is good, hence why the electric power companies are installing solar like mad and strangely enough they are NOT installing new coal plants. try and keep up. I know reality is not your strong point The reality is that renewables can’t even keep with just the increase in demand let alone replace fossil fuels. Coal is being replaced by cheaper natural gas and not renewables. Did you wonder why Microsoft chose nuclear and not wind and solar+ batteries to power one of its data centers? Because renewables are unreliable, expensive and have to be backed up by traditional energy sources Edited September 26 by brenthutch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,789 #334 September 26 18 minutes ago, brenthutch said: The reality is that renewables can’t even keep with just the increase in demand let alone replace fossil fuels. Here in reality - they are. Most of the the energy construction is renewables, not fossil fuel. We added 473 gigawatts of renewables last year worldwide, for example. Solar alone added 29 gigawatts; natural gas added only 7 gigawatts in the US. https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=55419#:~:text=Developers plan to build 7.5 GW of new,MW CPV Three Rivers Energy Center in Illinois. Quote Coal is being replaced by cheaper natural gas and not renewables. Nope. Again, in reality, solar is replacing both coal and natural gas - simply because it's cheaper. https://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffmcmahon/2024/09/26/81-of-new-renewables-produce-cheaper-energy-than-fossil-fuels/ Quote Did you wonder why Microsoft chose nuclear and not wind and solar+ batteries to power one of its data centers? Because Bill Gates owns a nuclear power plant company and wants to push nuclear? I mean, this isn't hard. It takes you ten seconds to Google it, even if your browser is messed up by your constant "bad stuff about Harris" googling. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 427 #335 September 26 (edited) 2 hours ago, billvon said: Here in reality - they are. Most of the the energy construction is renewables, not fossil fuel. We added 473 gigawatts of renewables last year worldwide, for example. Solar alone added 29 gigawatts; natural gas added only 7 gigawatts in the US. https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=55419#:~:text=Developers plan to build 7.5 GW of new,MW CPV Three Rivers Energy Center in Illinois. Nope. Again, in reality, solar is replacing both coal and natural gas - simply because it's cheaper. https://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffmcmahon/2024/09/26/81-of-new-renewables-produce-cheaper-energy-than-fossil-fuels/ Because Bill Gates owns a nuclear power plant company and wants to push nuclear? I mean, this isn't hard. It takes you ten seconds to Google it, even if your browser is messed up by your constant "bad stuff about Harris" googling. https://www.eia.gov/dnav/ng/hist/n9140us2a.htm Natural gas consumption is going in one direction…UP! And your link to an article about a report that says “For renewables to compete with fossil fuels and nuclear, storage is vital to provide power during renewable downtimes.” And when you add the cost of storage…the costs go through the roof and they are no longer competitive w fossil fuels. It reminds me of this Bloom County comic. Teacher: Original ideas? There are no truly original ideas lift in science, Mr Jones. OWJ: Au contraire! I myselft have an original idea! Teacher: Original Mr. Jones? OWJ: 100% original! A first! Truly unique! Allow me to present my findings! OWJ: The following formula shows conclusively how the entire world’s energy needs can be fulfilled with only two porcupines, an exercise wheel, and six tons of “raisin bran”. Truly … an original notion. OWJ: There! It all adds up! Teacher: … Except that porcupines are alergic to raisins. Teacher: Failure, Mr Jones, is hardly very original. Sit down. OWJ: The great tragedy of science – the slaying of an original, beautiful hypothesis by an ugly fact. Edited September 26 by brenthutch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,392 #336 September 26 33 minutes ago, brenthutch said: OWJ: The great tragedy of science – the slaying of an original, beautiful hypothesis by an ugly fact. Then what could be more tragic than your performance over the last couple of days? Still waiting on your source for your covid ‘facts’. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 427 #337 September 26 (edited) 11 minutes ago, jakee said: Then what could be more tragic than your performance over the last couple of days? Still waiting on your source for your covid ‘facts’. https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm and Biden had the vaccine Edited September 26 by brenthutch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,392 #338 September 26 9 minutes ago, brenthutch said: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm Right - so you were lying. Just flat out lying about how many people died in a pandemic because of your extreme partisan groupthink motivated need to bash Biden and praise Trump. Again, have you no shame? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tkhayes 301 #339 September 26 1 hour ago, brenthutch said: The reality is that renewables can’t even keep with just the increase in demand ... Which has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with whether or not they are viable as a part of the future.... You claim(s) has consistently been that they are not cost effective, not viable, not an alternative, not anything.... you have never spoken yet a single thing positive about any renewable and deny the reality that they are coming.... Like I said, power companies are installing tens of thousands of acres of solar across the country, and they are not doing that 'because they are not viable', because they are. Republican red Florida gets 10-12% of its electricity from solar already despite and managed to do that in about 6-8 years. Sounds pretty viable to me. How many new gas turbines and coal plants are being built to keep up with your perceived 'inability to keep up'? That's right, fuck all are being built. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 427 #340 September 26 1 hour ago, tkhayes said: Like I said, power companies are installing tens of thousands of acres of solar across the country, and they are not doing that 'because they are not viable', How many new gas turbines and coal plants are being built to keep up with your perceived 'inability to keep up'? That's right, fuck all are being built. “Nearly halfway through a decade deemed critical for slowing climate change, US utilities and investors plan to add 133 new natural gas-fired power plants to the nation's grid, according to S&P Global Market Intelligence data. Another four oil-fired plants are under construction or in early development, and two coal-fired plants have been announced, the data shows. The plans for new fossil fuel-based power generation come amid industrywide concern over a sudden and rapidly rising demand driven by electrification and industrial growth. In December 2023, grid regulators warned that power demand could outstrip supply in the coming decade, and consulting firm Grid Strategies declared that the "era of flat power demand is over." https://www.spglobal.com/marketintelligence/en/news-insights/latest-news-headlines/us-has-133-new-gas-fired-plants-in-the-works-putting-climate-goals-at-risk-81469493 As I said, renewables can’t even keep pace with the increase in demand Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 427 #341 September 26 1 hour ago, jakee said: Right - so you were lying. Just flat out lying about how many people died in a pandemic because of your extreme partisan groupthink motivated need to bash Biden and praise Trump. Again, have you no shame? Bottom line, even with multiple vaccines available More folks died of COVID during the Biden administration than the Trump administration. Again, have you insufficient mental faculties to understand the CDC data? I’m not Bashing Biden the numbers are. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 427 #342 September 27 (edited) Wow, I bust out some facts and the restless natives transform into crickets Edited September 27 by brenthutch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,340 #343 September 27 No, Brent. Some of us have lives, and some of us don’t really give a shit about someone with zero curiosity about anything that won’t confirm their currently-held opinions Wendy P. 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,627 #344 September 27 (edited) 12 minutes ago, wmw999 said: No, Brent. Some of us have lives, and some of us don’t really give a shit about someone with zero curiosity about anything that won’t confirm their currently-held opinions Wendy P. I was tasting and penning a review of Suntory Hibiki Whiskey which, frankly, I find less interesting and substantially more void of character than some reviewers. Sort of like Brents postings. Edited September 27 by JoeWeber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 427 #345 September 27 3 minutes ago, wmw999 said: No, Brent. Some of us have lives, and some of us don’t really give a shit about someone with zero curiosity about anything that won’t confirm their currently-held opinions Wendy P. I am not talking about opinions,I am talking about facts. More folks died from COVID during the Biden administration than during the Trump administration. FACT! Renewables can not keep pace with increasing energy demand. FACT! I’m sorry if reality makes some folks but-hurt however I feel I am doing a public service by disabusing them of these notions. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 229 #346 September 27 7 hours ago, wmw999 said: Well there's a problem right there. Ever consider that we may be just as individual as you? Wendy P. No Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 427 #347 September 27 (edited) 35 minutes ago, JoeWeber said: I was tasting and penning a review of Suntory Hibiki Whiskey which, frankly, I find less interesting and substantially more void of character than some reviewers. Sort of like Brents postings. That is too rich for my blood, but I was surprised to find I actually liked Bullet Rye. I find the rye is a bit like patchouli oil, a little goes a long way and too much is way too much. But Bullet found a good balance. In my experience it is the same with wine with money, a thirty dollar bottle of wine is ok, a fifty dollar bottle is good and anything over one hundred dollars is a waste of money. Edited September 27 by brenthutch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,627 #348 September 27 21 minutes ago, brenthutch said: That is too rich for my blood, but I was surprised to find I actually liked Bullet Rye. I find the rye is a bit like patchouli oil, a little goes a long way and too much is way too much. But Bullet found a good balance. In my experience it is the same with wine, a thirty dollar bottle of wine is ok, a fifty dollar bottle is good and anything over one hundred dollars is a waste of money. I'll agree on the wine, for sure. I discovered an interesting thing putting together a shipment for the boat. Most of the better producers have a lower end offering ($20-24ish) in an old style cheap bottle that is cylindrical and lighter weight than fancy bottles by at least a pound. Think pack volume and weight. It wasn't that hard to find lower priced wines from some that were really good. Of course, you do need to be willing to do the research. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,627 #349 September 27 34 minutes ago, winsor said: No Fair enough. So then who are you exactly like? 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,789 #350 September 27 4 hours ago, brenthutch said: “Nearly halfway through a decade deemed critical for slowing climate change, US utilities and investors plan to add 133 new natural gas-fired power plants to the nation's grid, according to S&P Global Market Intelligence data. Those 133 power plants are no doubt a small number of large CCS plants (200-500MW) and a large number of local peakers (10-50MW.) Let's take a 10/90 split. That means 25 gigawatts of new gas plants. Gas plants have a 95% availability, so that's 24 gigawatts average. And over the five years starting in 2022, the US will add 250 gigawatts of solar. With the 25% availability of utility solar, that's 83 gigawatts average. So solar installs are over THREE TIMES the energy of natural gas plants being installed. The age of fossil fuels is over. They can't come close to keeping up with renewables. As always, sorry about the facts. https://www.pv-magazine.com/2024/09/25/u-s-solar-industry-on-track-to-install-250-gw-in-five-years/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites