richravizza 27 #176 July 5 (edited) 9 hours ago, SkyDekker said: Right, but that is because Trump voters don't care if what he says is true. They just want to cheer as if they are watching a sporting event. I think the democrats are making him into a hero, a typical Clint Eastwood character. I just wanted to use an allegory personified, or was it just an analogy.Either way, thanks for the follow up,but... Negative on two fronts: #1 Debates are a full contact sport. #2 We are frustrated with inflation,our economy and our leadership...so a good smackdown give folks hope for change.And In the words of Rodney Dangerfield, "We get No Respect" LOL Respect for our borders, our Country and our history. Respect for our Constitution, laws and parental rights. A good post game clip We think this as grave a situation as you.So how about a little comedy just to lighten things up. Edited July 5 by richravizza butter Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,392 #177 July 5 10 hours ago, richravizza said: Negative on two fronts: #1 Debates are a full contact sport. #2 We are frustrated with inflation,our economy and our leadership...so a good smackdown give folks hope for change.And In the words of Rodney Dangerfield, "We get No Respect" LOL You are proving my point. You don't care if what Trump says is true or not, you just care how it makes you feel. Other than inflation, which almost the entire world is dealing with (in other words the President isn't going to change it) your economy is doing very well. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,874 #178 July 5 12 hours ago, richravizza said: I think the democrats are making him into a hero, a typical Clint Eastwood character. The exact opposite, actually. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
richravizza 27 #179 July 12 (edited) On 7/5/2024 at 9:16 AM, SkyDekker said: You are proving my point. You don't care if what Trump says is true or not, you just care how it makes you feel. Other than inflation, which almost the entire world is dealing with (in other words the President isn't going to change it) your economy is doing very well. I put the invitation out there. What lie bothered you the most...that he's a better golfer or that Biden can carry his bag. As for your low expectations for this Nation, I see your point... my portfolio is doing fine. But most don't have as much and could care less for that kind of measure, as most are interested in their meager personal situation. Of course,inflation does have benefits for some. https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/LES1252881600Q Edited July 13 by richravizza measure Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,392 #180 July 12 1 minute ago, richravizza said: I put the invitation out there. What lie bothered you the most... You want me to pick 1 out of the over 30,000 ones he made during his 4 year presidency? I mean there were over 500 of them on some single days. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/01/24/trumps-false-or-misleading-claims-total-30573-over-four-years/ 6 minutes ago, richravizza said: But most don't have as much and could care less for that kind of measure, as most are interested in their meager personal situation. Excluding the pandemic the economy grew by 2.67% under Trump (1.45% if you include the pandemic). Under Biden the economy has grown 3.4% so far. During the Trump presidency 2.7 million jobs were lost, if you exclude the pandemic Trump added 6.7 million jobs. Biden has added 15.4 million jobs. Trump added 461,000 manufacturing jobs, until the pandemic turned that into a loss of 178,000 jobs under Trump. Biden has added 773,000 manufacturing jobs. Sure Inflation has been higher under Biden than Trump, though it has been decreasing. Should note that under Trump inflation was more than 100% higher than under Obama. By the majority of objective measurements, Biden has done much better for the US economy than Trump has done. Though I am sure that Trump's infrastructure plan will finally get somewhere......lol 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 1,137 #181 July 12 5 minutes ago, SkyDekker said: You want me to pick 1 out of the over 30,000 ones he made during his 4 year presidency? I mean there were over 500 of them on some single days. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/01/24/trumps-false-or-misleading-claims-total-30573-over-four-years/ Excluding the pandemic the economy grew by 2.67% under Trump (1.45% if you include the pandemic). Under Biden the economy has grown 3.4% so far. During the Trump presidency 2.7 million jobs were lost, if you exclude the pandemic Trump added 6.7 million jobs. Biden has added 15.4 million jobs. Trump added 461,000 manufacturing jobs, until the pandemic turned that into a loss of 178,000 jobs under Trump. Biden has added 773,000 manufacturing jobs. Sure Inflation has been higher under Biden than Trump, though it has been decreasing. Should note that under Trump inflation was more than 100% higher than under Obama. By the majority of objective measurements, Biden has done much better for the US economy than Trump has done. Though I am sure that Trump's infrastructure plan will finally get somewhere......lol Never argue facts with MAGA republicans. They will drag you off to YouTube and beat you with ignorance and stupidity. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
richravizza 27 #182 July 13 On 7/5/2024 at 11:54 AM, billvon said: The exact opposite, actually. Saving democracy.... by preventing us from voting for him. LOL How's that working for ya? I heard if you just change the statute of limitations, and the 1978 Presidential records Act,we could get more crimes,raids,and hopefully more Parents on the terror watch list. To Biden. We've been telling you for years Biden was losing it, but in typical response and the proper way to resolve contradictions among the people.Our concerns and questions a met as Misinformation,Mal or Disinformation, Deep Fakes. It's all around if you just look. It's the propensity, a constant gravitas to it roots. A funny one, Newsome closing the beaches and arresting a paddle boarder on the Pacific Ocean all by himself,Covid you know. LOL It gets real ugly in institutions. Roland Fryer's story comes to mind. Harvard professor Roland Fryer, who at age 30 became the youngest African American ever to be awarded tenure at the Ivy League school, has revealed he faced threats and had to get armed security after publishing a study showing no racial bias in police-involved shootings. He was removed from his position and charged on trumped up charges too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,370 #183 July 13 Actually he's still teaching there. He was suspended for two years. Per Wikipedia: Quote Fryer alleged that he was "unfairly scrutinized ... for his skin color."[29] Harvard confirmed that its Office for Dispute Resolution (ODR) received complaints against Fryer in January, March, and April 2018.[30] The investigation found that he had "engaged in “unwelcome conduct of a sexual nature” against at least five employees over the course of a decade," according to the New York Times.[31] The report stated that he made references to various colleagues engaging in sex acts. Just because you're a guy doesn't really mean you can say anything to anyone, whether you're white or black. Women count, too. Wendy P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
richravizza 27 #184 July 13 1 hour ago, SkyDekker said: You want me to pick 1 out of the over 30,000 ones he made during his 4 year presidency? I mean there were over 500 of them on some single days. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/01/24/trumps-false-or-misleading-claims-total-30573-over-four-years/ Excluding the pandemic the economy grew by 2.67% under Trump (1.45% if you include the pandemic). Under Biden the economy has grown 3.4% so far. During the Trump presidency 2.7 million jobs were lost, if you exclude the pandemic Trump added 6.7 million jobs. Biden has added 15.4 million jobs. Trump added 461,000 manufacturing jobs, until the pandemic turned that into a loss of 178,000 jobs under Trump. Biden has added 773,000 manufacturing jobs. Sure Inflation has been higher under Biden than Trump, though it has been decreasing. Should note that under Trump inflation was more than 100% higher than under Obama. By the majority of objective measurements, Biden has done much better for the US economy than Trump has done. Though I am sure that Trump's infrastructure plan will finally get somewhere......lol Yes, I asked for One that you heard from the debate.The Washington Compost is your problem because misleading and lies are their game and always the same. They are "Fine People". "By the majority of objective measurements, Biden has done much better for the US economy than Trump has done." That may be true,but it isn't good enough with voters, the inflation factor,or the question "are you better off". "Should note that under Trump inflation was more than 100% higher than under Obama."That's a fun Fact. I think the fed was also trying to return us from possible deflation and sub1% rates if I'm not mistaken. I wonder how Bidens would compared to 0bama's rate? "Though I am sure that Trump's infrastructure plan will finally get somewhere......lol" Nice! I like the rhetoric and humor.But unfortunately It's going as well as our grid and our high speed rail in SoCal. Thanks but those charging stations is where the real money's at. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,370 #185 July 13 One lie? How about Quote While talking about international trade, Trump falsely claimed that the U.S. currently has “the largest deficit with China.” In 2023, the trade deficit in goods and services with China was the lowest it has been since 2009. Wendy P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,874 #186 July 13 2 hours ago, richravizza said: "By the majority of objective measurements, Biden has done much better for the US economy than Trump has done." That may be true,but it isn't good enough with voters, the inflation factor,or the question "are you better off". My friends aren't dying of COVID, we are not under a lockdown, and we don't need refrigerated trucks to hold all the bodies any more. So yes, I am better off. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,234 #187 July 13 7 hours ago, billvon said: So yes, I am better off. But, it's more about the mean per capita income of $37,000/median household income around $69,000 and their loss of purchase power for necessities. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
richravizza 27 #188 July 13 (edited) 21 hours ago, wmw999 said: Just because you're a guy doesn't really mean you can say anything to anyone, whether you're white or black. Women count, too. Well that fits a cozy narrative,but I don't think you have a full grasp of his/our situation. It was the nastiness of an ideology institutionalized, and they trumped him up on those charges. It was the content of his character. His research,that could have dispelled a mass psychosis.An Opportunity Cost. It's to bad. "Women count Too" I couldn't agree more! But this wasn't that. Wendy this is not directed at you.. but to those who should know better. Let's not forget Monsignor Larry, better known as BoBo the Clown. A Fyodor Dostoevsky quote comes to mind; "Tolerance will reach such a level that intelligent people will be banned from thinking so as not to offend the imbeciles." Edited July 13 by richravizza our Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 1,137 #189 July 13 4 minutes ago, richravizza said: "Intolerance will reach such a level that intelligent people will be banned from thinking so as not to offend the imbeciles, the GOP base." Hmmmm the motto of MAGA republicans. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
richravizza 27 #190 July 13 (edited) 22 hours ago, Phil1111 said: Never argue facts with MAGA republicans. They will drag you off to YouTube and beat you with ignorance and stupidity. Phill, did Bill give you a warning for abusive behavior? LOL ignorance and stupidity is all you got,I thought we went over this before, but to refresh your memory they are just names. Could I use illiterate ? because I think you need to reread #176 specifically #2.With that said,Sir. "The beatings will continue until morale improves." From your most trusted name in news CNN While nonverbal communication is impossible on these forums, well it's quite apparent here. The up shot: MAGA and Biden have something in common. "I feel as long as I gave it my all and did the goodest job I could do" In other news the CIC wanted to wish everybody a reassuring 4th of July message and I quote; "HO! HO! HO! Happy Independence Day. Edited July 13 by richravizza Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,874 #191 July 13 21 minutes ago, richravizza said: "I feel as long as I gave it my all and did the goodest job I could do" "This is a tough hurricane. One of the wettest we've ever seen from the standpoint of water." "Covfefe" "So Biden was here for 47 years . . . 8 years . . . the last eight years . . ." "The Continental Army . . . manned the air, it rammed the ramparts, it took over the airports, it did everything it had to do." "We built almost 500 miles of wall. Even the Obama administration says it in their stats." 2023: "You take a look at Obama and take a look at some of the things that he’s done. This is the same thing. The country was very divided. We did with Obama. We won an election that everyone said couldn’t be won." 2023: "It’s all coming through Iran. And Obama wants to, he doesn’t want to talk about it. He doesn’t want to mention, he doesn’t even mention them in his statements. It’s all coming through Iran." 2023: "They were interviewing Orbán two weeks ago and they said, ‘What would you advise President Obama? The whole world seems to be exploding and imploding?’ And he said, ‘It’s very simple. He should immediately resign, and they should replace him with President Trump, who kept the world safe.’” 2024: "Putin has so little respect for Obama that he’s starting to throw around the nuclear word. You heard that. Nuclear. He’s starting to talk nuclear weapons today.” Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
richravizza 27 #192 July 13 18 hours ago, billvon said: My friends aren't dying of COVID, we are not under a lockdown, and we don't need refrigerated trucks to hold all the bodies any more. So yes, I am better off. And you can forget that your tax dollars funded the virus and the cure..LOL Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,874 #193 July 13 1 minute ago, richravizza said: And you can forget that your tax dollars funded the virus and the cure..LOL Right; I saw that movie. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
richravizza 27 #194 July 13 (edited) 56 minutes ago, billvon said: Right; I saw that movie. What was the Name S1S2? Hey good News just in.....someone just tried to kill Goldhair,but ..Just missed his head,and grazed his ear. In the crowd was heard someone say Go Clint..? USA.USA the chant of the day. I believe Ken gets the free beer today... Edited July 13 by richravizza Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 749 #195 July 14 3 hours ago, billvon said: Right; I saw that movie. It was on Youtube, right? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
richravizza 27 #196 July 14 (edited) It's Saturday night, and I think it's called a cleavage site. lol 2 hours ago, normiss said: It was on Youtube, right? yup, we the people In the spirit of twisted panties and small towns, raise your glass and turn it up Kyle still getting his free beers.LOL Edited July 14 by richravizza Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,392 #197 July 15 On 7/12/2024 at 7:14 PM, richravizza said: "By the majority of objective measurements, Biden has done much better for the US economy than Trump has done." That may be true,but it isn't good enough with voters, the inflation factor,or the question "are you better off Funny enough two of the Maga Trump supporters here say they are better off now...followed by a but some magical other people are not better off. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,874 #198 July 15 On 7/13/2024 at 2:53 PM, richravizza said: Well that fits a cozy narrative,but I don't think you have a full grasp of his/our situation. Yeah Wendy! Let Rich here explain what it's like to be a woman in today's society to you. 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
richravizza 27 #199 July 18 On 7/15/2024 at 1:45 PM, billvon said: Yeah Wendy! Let Rich here explain what it's like to be a woman in today's society to you. What a tool, the firing was because of his research, that you know nothing about.The upshot, you got the slogan thing down. The topic was Roland his research and the toxic woke response from Harvard to facts that don't line up with their ideology.Particular, subjects like Police use of force. Your Diversion is noted,as are your "likes". LOL Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 1,137 #200 July 18 On 7/15/2024 at 2:45 PM, billvon said: Yeah Wendy! Let Rich here explain what it's like to be a woman in today's society to you. Brilliant. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
