grimmie 179 #26 April 15, 2023 I watch the hatred in the USA from afar and just shake my head. The attacks against trans people to garner votes is disgusting. And those that shoot Bud Light cans are fuckwits. Dylan is a great kid. Funny, charming and loving. And has 10 million followers on tik tok. Today’s younger generation just laughs at morons like Kid Rock, who they don’t even know who he is. Talking joy in this…seriously? 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,734 #27 April 15, 2023 57 minutes ago, grimmie said: Today’s younger generation just laughs at morons like Kid Rock, who they don’t even know who he is. That's why I don't worry too much. The under-30 crowd will be running things in a decade or so, and they don't have a problem with gay people, or trans people, or science, or EV's, or justice. Sometimes it just takes time for the older generation to stop running things. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 201 #28 April 15, 2023 22 minutes ago, billvon said: That's why I don't worry too much. The under-30 crowd will be running things in a decade or so, and they don't have a problem with gay people, or trans people, or science, or EV's, or justice. Sometimes it just takes time for the older generation to stop running things. I'm looking forward to it. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,314 #29 April 15, 2023 Quote Sometimes it just takes time for the older generation to stop running things. 1 hour ago, airdvr said: I'm looking forward to it. Just gotta vote that way. Even when it's someone experienced. Age doesn't rule everything, but it sure makes a big difference to me any more, especially in the primaries. Even people like Elizabeth Warren are fair game. She knows a lot, but other people know more about other stuff. Wendy P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 419 #30 April 15, 2023 2 hours ago, billvon said: That's why I don't worry too much. The under-30 crowd will be running things in a decade or so, and they don't have a problem with gay people, or trans people, or science, or EV's, or justice. Sometimes it just takes time for the older generation to stop running things. The thing about the younger generation is that as they mature they become wiser and more and more like the preceding generation. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,567 #31 April 15, 2023 1 hour ago, brenthutch said: The thing about the younger generation is that as they mature they become wiser and more and more like the preceding generation. You got that one right, Gramps. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,462 #32 April 15, 2023 Just now, grimmie said: I watch the hatred in the USA from afar and just shake my head. The attacks against trans people to garner votes is disgusting. And those that shoot Bud Light cans are fuckwits. Dylan is a great kid. Funny, charming and loving. And has 10 million followers on tik tok. Today’s younger generation just laughs at morons like Kid Rock, who they don’t even know who he is. Talking joy in this…seriously? Yup. You can tell a LOT about a society, or segments of one, by how they treat minorities and marginalized people. Do they show compassion and care for someone who is struggling with being 'different'? Or do they gang up on them, bully and ostracize them, threatening violence? Dan Rather has an interesting piece on the current behavior of the 'anti' crowd:https://steady.substack.com/p/stop-it?r=du1sl&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&fbclid=IwAR38Pw0BvJa2V-EAPzpqqaljf0immHCa2GM0aPwboFgYaErs1cudcPf6nm8 From it: Quote History is replete with the horrors inflicted by those who wielded the power of position and privilege against those who had little to none of either. Persecution has taken many forms — legal, cultural, economic, and social. It has led to unimaginable suffering, violence, and death — even reaching the scale of genocide. And we should be clear that claims of “this is abhorrent,” “this isn’t how things should be done,” “this isn’t natural,” or “this is dangerous” are the kind of rhetoric long used to attack the “other,” no matter who it may be. We have seen these attacks lobbed at other members of the LGBTQ community. We have seen them target interracial marriage, the customs of non-Christians, and communities of immigrants. We have seen discrimination wielded time and again as a cudgel for those with power to bolster their standing by picking on others. It is bullying, pure and simple. The purpose of these attacks on the trans community is transparent. It’s about political power, and a power built on division. It’s about picking on those who have the least ability to defend themselves, including and especially children. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 1,078 #33 April 16, 2023 8 hours ago, billvon said: That's why I don't worry too much. The under-30 crowd will be running things in a decade or so, and they don't have a problem with gay people, or trans people, or science, or EV's, or justice. Sometimes it just takes time for the older generation to stop running things. Weeeeeell There is MTG, Matt Gaetz,Lauren Boebert, etc. A whole new crowd of young republicans. In the mold of MAGA. I completely agree that demographics are not on the side of an old, bigoted, misogynist, GOP. Unfortunately there isn't a new, young, compassionate conservative leadership forming. Where is the new, the next, Adam Kinzinger? The replacement for Liz Cheney? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tonyhays 86 #34 April 16, 2023 Younger people are voting for Dems in droves, and older Republicans are dying off faster than ever. The change is happen faster than you think. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,734 #35 April 16, 2023 2 hours ago, Phil1111 said: Weeeeeell There is MTG, Matt Gaetz,Lauren Boebert, etc. A whole new crowd of young republicans. Yep. I can't help but thinking that they are not real; that you are not seeing anything other than an actor's portrayal of a character that will garner power from the older conservatives. That partly comes from a feeling that no one could be that dumb (secret Jewish space lasers?) and that instead such statements are merely ill-considered dog whistles. But who knows? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,344 #36 April 16, 2023 4 hours ago, billvon said: Yep. I can't help but thinking that they are not real; that you are not seeing anything other than an actor's portrayal of a character that will garner power from the older conservatives. That partly comes from a feeling that no one could be that dumb (secret Jewish space lasers?) and that instead such statements are merely ill-considered dog whistles. But who knows? I think MTG is 100% real. Boebert and Gaetz believe some of what they say and just play to the crowd for the rest but are too dumb to do it well (see their many disastrous committee appearances). When it comes to pretending to be in the MAGA crowd despite really knowing better, Josh Hawley has to be king. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
olofscience 460 #37 April 16, 2023 16 hours ago, brenthutch said: The thing about the younger generation is that as they mature they become wiser and more and more like the preceding generation. That's why leftie rags like the Financial Times are writing things like: "Millennials are shattering the oldest rule in politics: Western conservatives are at risk from generations of voters who are no longer moving to the right as they age" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,553 #38 April 16, 2023 And now defending Bud Light, we have...Don Jr??? Donald Trump Jr. Urges Right-Wingers to End Boycott of ‘Conservative-Leaning’ Bud Light Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 137 #39 April 16, 2023 55 minutes ago, ryoder said: And now defending Bud Light, we have...Don Jr??? Donald Trump Jr. Urges Right-Wingers to End Boycott of ‘Conservative-Leaning’ Bud Light A defense by a trump, wouldn’t that be the ultimate attack against Bud Light ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,462 #40 April 16, 2023 1 hour ago, ryoder said: And now defending Bud Light, we have...Don Jr??? Donald Trump Jr. Urges Right-Wingers to End Boycott of ‘Conservative-Leaning’ Bud Light Of course the MAGA morons are losing their shit over it. Of all the people I'd expect the MAGA idiots to call a "RINO", Coke-head Jr is NOT one of them. But, of course, the MAGA fools never cease to surprise me with how fucking stupid they can be. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,567 #41 April 16, 2023 25 minutes ago, wolfriverjoe said: Of course the MAGA morons are losing their shit over it. Of all the people I'd expect the MAGA idiots to call a "RINO", Coke-head Jr is NOT one of them. But, of course, the MAGA fools never cease to surprise me with how fucking stupid they can be. In fairness, if their attentions need be directed anywhere we could do worse than the cancellation of Bud Light. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 723 #42 April 16, 2023 On 4/14/2023 at 8:49 PM, JoeWeber said: That, I doubt. Chick-fil-a is a Christian, anti-abortion, anti-Liberal, anti-woke business to it's core. Christians flocked to it a few years back as a way of owning Liberals. They have a rock solid clientele. As a southerner, it's shite fried chicken though. The breading is unnatural IMO. Those waffle fries though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stumpy 283 #43 April 16, 2023 Turns out A-B is a major republican donor. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grimmie 179 #44 April 16, 2023 https://www.axios.com/2023/04/14/conservatives-plot-text-warning-woke-products Now you can figure out who supports people you hate easily. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,314 #45 April 16, 2023 But hey, cancel culture is evil Wendy P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,462 #46 April 16, 2023 1 minute ago, wmw999 said: But hey, cancel culture is evil Wendy P. Well, just like everything else. It's only evil when OTHER PEOPLE do it. 'Cuz, you know, hypocrisy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,271 #47 April 16, 2023 31 minutes ago, grimmie said: https://www.axios.com/2023/04/14/conservatives-plot-text-warning-woke-products Now you can figure out who supports people you hate easily. Hi Rich, A very interesting article. My money says it will backfire on them. From your link: Conservative musicians such as Kid Rock . . . Kid Rock is a musician; hmm, when did that happen? Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,291 #48 April 16, 2023 On 4/15/2023 at 4:26 AM, brenthutch said: I think you meant to say Democrats Why are they the ones who stopped drinking the light beer? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 1,078 #49 April 16, 2023 1 hour ago, JerryBaumchen said: Hi Rich, A very interesting article. My money says it will backfire on them. From your link: Conservative musicians such as Kid Rock . . . Kid Rock is a musician; hmm, when did that happen? Jerry Baumchen Well he ain't no rocket surgeon. “I could have been good at school, I just didn’t see any use for it. If people want to study hard to be a doctor or a lawyer that’s great. I had to work at other things: fucking bitches, counting money, how to make money…” (2002) “If you ever wanted to rob a trailer park, do it during a Kid Rock concert. When I hit town, the trailer parks empty out and everyone comes to the show.” (2008) Hardly any wonder MAGA republicans love him. Nor any wonder that he is a regular speaker at NRA conventions. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,734 #50 April 16, 2023 On 4/14/2023 at 3:44 PM, brenthutch said: “This boycott seems to have more legs than most,” Yep. Just like the M+M boycott. They are out of business. Right? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites