PhreeZone 15 #26 March 12, 2006 There are 6 in the US right now. http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry/mmsinqSQL.asp?mmstxt=05617YD Deland, Skyknights, Sulfolk, Davis, Temple in TX and another DZ have the planes from what I am remembering.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Opie 0 #27 March 12, 2006 QuoteThat's assuming the PAC750 is approved for flight with the door oper/removed. I thought that might be a safe assumption to make since they are being marketed and delivered from the factory with a jump door in place Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bigfall 0 #28 March 12, 2006 Skydive Wayne County in Richmond Indiana has one and as a student I have jumped from it many times. With larger loads it can be alittle snug but with close friends it's not bad and the ride to altitude is fairly quick. the ride is any where between 15 to 20 min. to 13,500.STEP OUT AND FEEL THE RUSH!!!! LATER SKYBOMB Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Mush 0 #29 March 12, 2006 What i liked about the Porter just off student status was there are only 9/10 jumpers in the plane, 2 two way's, a 3 way & 2 solos, as a student jumper the least amount of canopys in the air with you is a good thing, less to think about . BTW done all of my consols out of a Grand caravan, but it was a hugh LZ, UK DZ. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mdrejhon 8 #30 March 12, 2006 QuoteOtters have cabins (up to 18 jumpers)Up to 24 jumpers. But usually 22-23 jumpers max capacity. At least in the Twin Otters that I fly in, and have used side benches and straddle benches. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bob.dino 0 #31 March 12, 2006 The DHC-3 Otter and DHC-6 Twin Otter are two different aircraft. The DHC-3 is a single engine aircraft and was originally powered by a radial piston engine, hence Rob's reference to upgrading to a turbine. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites BenediktDE 2 #32 March 13, 2006 QuoteQuoteThat's assuming the PAC750 is approved for flight with the door oper/removed.I thought that might be a safe assumption to make since they are being marketed and delivered from the factory with a jump door in place And there are a few that have two of these doors - one on each side. Funny: Nearly all Pilatur Porter do still have a drapdoor!For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rocketdog 0 #33 March 13, 2006 my DZ had a Porter this past season full-time. let me tell you 8 was AWFUL -- 7 jumpers would be ideal i'd say. i liked the wide door, OR you could use BOTH doors. i think the lift-to-fuel cost wasn't too shabby either. that is a guess though.... ~hollywood see the world! http://gorocketdog.blogspot.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Peej 0 #34 March 13, 2006 QuoteQuotebut can someone do me up a picture like in paint of something of a seating arrengment. The attached is based on talking to someone I know who jumps one in the Netherlands and what piisfish said. Eule That's almost exactly the way we seat everyone at our dz. Except we have two next to the pilot and one in the back. Advertisio Rodriguez / Sky Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Adriandavies 0 #35 March 13, 2006 QuoteThere are 6 in the US right now. http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry/mmsinqSQL.asp?mmstxt=05617YD Deland, Skyknights, Sulfolk, Davis, Temple in TX and another DZ have the planes from what I am remembering. There are also two in the UK and another 2 in Europe. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jakee 1,254 #36 March 13, 2006 Quotemy DZ had a Porter this past season full-time. let me tell you 8 was AWFUL -- 7 jumpers would be ideal i'd say. i liked the wide door, OR you could use BOTH doors. I'm guessing that was with all floor seating? IMO its easier to fit 10 in a Porter with side benches than 8 in one with floor seating.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mccurley 0 #37 March 13, 2006 I,m going right past the PAC factory on wednsday. Last time I went that way the door to the hanger was open and there were about a dozen of them i various stages of assembly. Some reaally strange paint jobs on some off them as wellWatch my video Fat Women http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRWkEky8GoI Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jakee 1,254 #38 March 13, 2006 Sweet! Any chance you could get some photos?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Squeak 17 #39 March 13, 2006 QuoteQuoteThat's assuming the PAC750 is approved for flight with the door oper/removed. I thought that might be a safe assumption to make since they are being marketed and delivered from the factory with a jump door in place The pilot can open and close the door from his/her seat, similar to a CrescoYou are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites deepdiver 0 #40 March 13, 2006 Great 'little' plane, we have one here. there is a dornier also for the bigger way stuff. we jump from the porter every day we can, same seating config as the nice pic earlier, full load of 10, usually one or two tandems involved, i never got cramp because it is always well load organised and climbs pretty fast. Great for students and AFF considerations too. Door open? One on the wheel, another on the strut, 2 on the camera step aft, 3 in and 3 out ........lets' party!! (im in spain, a smallish country 'over the water' that has DZ's and other great places to visit.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 2,396 #41 March 13, 2006 >let me tell you 8 was AWFUL We had one for a while and put 10 in it. I did one tandem out of it when we were putting 10 in, and then refused to do any more. Other instructors soon followed, and we finally got the DZO to reduce the max load to 8. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites sgt_ludy 0 #42 March 13, 2006 we use it in the military for small and alpine landing zones. we can put 8 jumpers without problems in it. needs a very short landing and starting strip. perfect for fast and uncomplicated jumps. also jumped the oldest still flying porter on a french dropzone in morocco: tuned by icarius-planes this baby brought 9 jumpers to 4200m in less than 9minutes!! fantastic! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites piisfish 135 #43 March 13, 2006 Quotealso jumped the oldest still flying porter on a french dropzone in morocco: tuned by icarius-planes this baby brought 9 jumpers to 4200m in less than 9minutes!! fantastic!F-GODZ, tribute to Godzilla www.pc-6.com/history/340.htmscissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bob.dino 0 #44 March 13, 2006 QuoteQuoteThere are 6 in the US right now. http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry/mmsinqSQL.asp?mmstxt=05617YD Deland, Skyknights, Sulfolk, Davis, Temple in TX and another DZ have the planes from what I am remembering. There are also two in the UK and another 2 in Europe. And two in Australia - at Nagambie and Picton. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #45 March 13, 2006 I guess we will find out up here in WA in about 3 weeks. A New DZ is coming to the Seattle Area.. and the aircraft is a Porter.. Another list of them in the US. http://www.pc-6.com/porterakt.htm#USA Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rmcvey 0 #46 March 13, 2006 Found this... http://download.aopa.org/epilot/2005/20052653ad.pdf Interesting read I thought... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites PhreeZone 15 #47 March 14, 2006 This was addressed only a few days later with a perm fix.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites IanHarrop 37 #48 March 14, 2006 Abbotsford BC likes theirs and just updated their engine a few months ago Check out this link. http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=1941422#1941422"Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Hajo 0 #49 March 14, 2006 Quote There are also two in the UK and another 2 in Europe. in germany, I know of 4 dz, using porters: neustadt/glewe ampfing schweighofen leutkirch I liked the porter because of the STOL possibilities and the very slow exit speeds. space inside was never a question when sitting in the right way. the door is huge... and the step is great.-------------------------------------------------- With sufficient thrust, pigs just fly well Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Thanatos340 1 #50 March 14, 2006 The Farm has a Porter, a Caravan and a Grand Caravan. For many of us, The Porter is our Favorite. Gigantic Door, Climbs fast, Jungle Gym outside the door, Slow exit speeds . I love the Porter. Another advantage of the porter is that is can get in and out of a Short Landing Strip. At the Farm, If we are running the Caravan or Grand Caravan we have to shuttle to the Airport as they cant take off with a full load on the short strip. If we are flying the porter, We can. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 Next Page 2 of 3 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. 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bigfall 0 #28 March 12, 2006 Skydive Wayne County in Richmond Indiana has one and as a student I have jumped from it many times. With larger loads it can be alittle snug but with close friends it's not bad and the ride to altitude is fairly quick. the ride is any where between 15 to 20 min. to 13,500.STEP OUT AND FEEL THE RUSH!!!! LATER SKYBOMB Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mush 0 #29 March 12, 2006 What i liked about the Porter just off student status was there are only 9/10 jumpers in the plane, 2 two way's, a 3 way & 2 solos, as a student jumper the least amount of canopys in the air with you is a good thing, less to think about . BTW done all of my consols out of a Grand caravan, but it was a hugh LZ, UK DZ. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mdrejhon 8 #30 March 12, 2006 QuoteOtters have cabins (up to 18 jumpers)Up to 24 jumpers. But usually 22-23 jumpers max capacity. At least in the Twin Otters that I fly in, and have used side benches and straddle benches. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob.dino 0 #31 March 12, 2006 The DHC-3 Otter and DHC-6 Twin Otter are two different aircraft. The DHC-3 is a single engine aircraft and was originally powered by a radial piston engine, hence Rob's reference to upgrading to a turbine. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BenediktDE 2 #32 March 13, 2006 QuoteQuoteThat's assuming the PAC750 is approved for flight with the door oper/removed.I thought that might be a safe assumption to make since they are being marketed and delivered from the factory with a jump door in place And there are a few that have two of these doors - one on each side. Funny: Nearly all Pilatur Porter do still have a drapdoor!For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rocketdog 0 #33 March 13, 2006 my DZ had a Porter this past season full-time. let me tell you 8 was AWFUL -- 7 jumpers would be ideal i'd say. i liked the wide door, OR you could use BOTH doors. i think the lift-to-fuel cost wasn't too shabby either. that is a guess though.... ~hollywood see the world! http://gorocketdog.blogspot.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Peej 0 #34 March 13, 2006 QuoteQuotebut can someone do me up a picture like in paint of something of a seating arrengment. The attached is based on talking to someone I know who jumps one in the Netherlands and what piisfish said. Eule That's almost exactly the way we seat everyone at our dz. Except we have two next to the pilot and one in the back. Advertisio Rodriguez / Sky Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Adriandavies 0 #35 March 13, 2006 QuoteThere are 6 in the US right now. http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry/mmsinqSQL.asp?mmstxt=05617YD Deland, Skyknights, Sulfolk, Davis, Temple in TX and another DZ have the planes from what I am remembering. There are also two in the UK and another 2 in Europe. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,254 #36 March 13, 2006 Quotemy DZ had a Porter this past season full-time. let me tell you 8 was AWFUL -- 7 jumpers would be ideal i'd say. i liked the wide door, OR you could use BOTH doors. I'm guessing that was with all floor seating? IMO its easier to fit 10 in a Porter with side benches than 8 in one with floor seating.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mccurley 0 #37 March 13, 2006 I,m going right past the PAC factory on wednsday. Last time I went that way the door to the hanger was open and there were about a dozen of them i various stages of assembly. Some reaally strange paint jobs on some off them as wellWatch my video Fat Women http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRWkEky8GoI Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,254 #38 March 13, 2006 Sweet! Any chance you could get some photos?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #39 March 13, 2006 QuoteQuoteThat's assuming the PAC750 is approved for flight with the door oper/removed. I thought that might be a safe assumption to make since they are being marketed and delivered from the factory with a jump door in place The pilot can open and close the door from his/her seat, similar to a CrescoYou are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deepdiver 0 #40 March 13, 2006 Great 'little' plane, we have one here. there is a dornier also for the bigger way stuff. we jump from the porter every day we can, same seating config as the nice pic earlier, full load of 10, usually one or two tandems involved, i never got cramp because it is always well load organised and climbs pretty fast. Great for students and AFF considerations too. Door open? One on the wheel, another on the strut, 2 on the camera step aft, 3 in and 3 out ........lets' party!! (im in spain, a smallish country 'over the water' that has DZ's and other great places to visit.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,396 #41 March 13, 2006 >let me tell you 8 was AWFUL We had one for a while and put 10 in it. I did one tandem out of it when we were putting 10 in, and then refused to do any more. Other instructors soon followed, and we finally got the DZO to reduce the max load to 8. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sgt_ludy 0 #42 March 13, 2006 we use it in the military for small and alpine landing zones. we can put 8 jumpers without problems in it. needs a very short landing and starting strip. perfect for fast and uncomplicated jumps. also jumped the oldest still flying porter on a french dropzone in morocco: tuned by icarius-planes this baby brought 9 jumpers to 4200m in less than 9minutes!! fantastic! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 135 #43 March 13, 2006 Quotealso jumped the oldest still flying porter on a french dropzone in morocco: tuned by icarius-planes this baby brought 9 jumpers to 4200m in less than 9minutes!! fantastic!F-GODZ, tribute to Godzilla www.pc-6.com/history/340.htmscissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob.dino 0 #44 March 13, 2006 QuoteQuoteThere are 6 in the US right now. http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry/mmsinqSQL.asp?mmstxt=05617YD Deland, Skyknights, Sulfolk, Davis, Temple in TX and another DZ have the planes from what I am remembering. There are also two in the UK and another 2 in Europe. And two in Australia - at Nagambie and Picton. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #45 March 13, 2006 I guess we will find out up here in WA in about 3 weeks. A New DZ is coming to the Seattle Area.. and the aircraft is a Porter.. Another list of them in the US. http://www.pc-6.com/porterakt.htm#USA Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rmcvey 0 #46 March 13, 2006 Found this... http://download.aopa.org/epilot/2005/20052653ad.pdf Interesting read I thought... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 15 #47 March 14, 2006 This was addressed only a few days later with a perm fix.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IanHarrop 37 #48 March 14, 2006 Abbotsford BC likes theirs and just updated their engine a few months ago Check out this link. http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=1941422#1941422"Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hajo 0 #49 March 14, 2006 Quote There are also two in the UK and another 2 in Europe. in germany, I know of 4 dz, using porters: neustadt/glewe ampfing schweighofen leutkirch I liked the porter because of the STOL possibilities and the very slow exit speeds. space inside was never a question when sitting in the right way. the door is huge... and the step is great.-------------------------------------------------- With sufficient thrust, pigs just fly well Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thanatos340 1 #50 March 14, 2006 The Farm has a Porter, a Caravan and a Grand Caravan. For many of us, The Porter is our Favorite. Gigantic Door, Climbs fast, Jungle Gym outside the door, Slow exit speeds . I love the Porter. Another advantage of the porter is that is can get in and out of a Short Landing Strip. At the Farm, If we are running the Caravan or Grand Caravan we have to shuttle to the Airport as they cant take off with a full load on the short strip. If we are flying the porter, We can. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
