billvon 2,384 #101 March 12, 2023 3 minutes ago, ryoder said: But I don't think he would fit in there, now that we have just learned even the Fox talking heads aren't dumb enough to believe their own bullshit. Yeah. The problem with FOX is that you have to be smart enough to keep the lies straight. Right aftter the election, one reporter accidentally reported the truth and Hannity immediately called for her firing. Whereas with politicians, they don't have to keep their lies straight. Look at George Santos and Andrew Ogle. They are at zero risk for being fired, and they make good money. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,050 #102 March 12, 2023 3 hours ago, billvon said: And you see no similarity between those two arguments. Kinda need to know the use of "non sequitur." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 383 #103 March 13, 2023 19 hours ago, billvon said: You said that since the word "democracy" doesn't appear in the Constitution or the Bill of Rights, that the US was not a democracy. I said no such thing. You are arguing with a straw man of your own creation. BTW guns…AKA fireARMS! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,121 #104 March 13, 2023 On 3/11/2023 at 10:20 AM, brenthutch said: I don’t see the word democracy anywhere in the government’s description of itself. Have a nice day! Then you can't read. "While often categorized as a democracy, the United States is more accurately defined as a constitutional federal republic." The "more accurately" means that democracy is "accurate". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 383 #105 March 13, 2023 44 minutes ago, SkyDekker said: Then you can't read. "While often categorized as a democracy, the United States is more accurately defined as a constitutional federal republic." The "more accurately" means that democracy is "accurate". SkyDekker using semantics Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
olofscience 420 #106 March 13, 2023 2 hours ago, brenthutch said: I said no such thing. You are arguing with a straw man of your own creation. Your friend Slim did. How about you also stop creating straw men? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,254 #107 March 13, 2023 1 hour ago, brenthutch said: SkyDekker using semantics That's literally you. The US is a democracy. It is a perfect fit for both the definition of a democracy and for the popular understanding of the word. The US Government source you quoted explaining that the US is a particular type of democracy does not make it not a democracy. You are pushing a semantic argument that is both pedantic and wrong. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,254 #108 March 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, Slim King said: We are a Constitutional Republic. Every few years we have a vote. Having a vote every two years does not a Democracy make!!!! ROTFLMAO ... Hey Brent, this is the one guy on your side again. Doesn’t that worry you? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,381 #109 March 13, 2023 For the poorly educated here: Types of democracy 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,117 #110 March 13, 2023 35 minutes ago, Slim King said: We are a Constitutional Republic. Every few years we have a vote. Having a vote every two years does not a Democracy make!!!! ROTFLMAO ... :Humpty Wendy P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,254 #111 March 13, 2023 1 hour ago, Slim King said: I'm certainly on no ones side. Yes, you’re not even on the same side as your own dictionary. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 383 #112 March 14, 2023 6 hours ago, jakee said: That's literally you. The US is a democracy. It is a perfect fit for both the definition of a democracy and for the popular understanding of the word. The US Government source you quoted explaining that the US is a particular type of democracy does not make it not a democracy. You are pushing a semantic argument that is both pedantic and wrong. This thread within a thread was in response to Wendy when she said “If your son's school is focusing on the downfalls of democracy, and highlighting being a republic instead” did you catch that? democracy INSTEAD of a republic in·stead /inˈsted/ adverb as an alternative or substitute. "Our government is a Republic instead of a Democracy” Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,254 #113 March 14, 2023 7 hours ago, brenthutch said: This thread within a thread was in response to Wendy when she said “If your son's school is focusing on the downfalls of democracy, and highlighting being a republic instead” did you catch that? democracy INSTEAD of a republic The ‘instead’ in that sentence refers to what the school is focussing on, not what the governmental systems are. Learn to read. (BTW, even if you are claiming you’re only wrong because you were copying someone else, you’re still wrong.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,254 #114 March 14, 2023 7 hours ago, Slim King said: Slam Dunk for Brent....LOL... Hey Brent, the Russian troll who just posted a pro-conspiracy theory meme agrees with everything you just said. Surely you realise that can’t be good? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,117 #115 March 14, 2023 11 hours ago, brenthutch said: This thread within a thread was in response to Wendy when she said “If your son's school is focusing on the downfalls of democracy, and highlighting being a republic instead” did you catch that? democracy INSTEAD of a republic in·stead /inˈsted/ adverb as an alternative or substitute. "Our government is a Republic instead of a Democracy” There might be subtler meanings there, y'know. "Downfalls of democracy" is general, and isn't the same as "downfalls of being a pure democracy." But as long as you get to slam someone you see as a liberal, it's all good, right? The US is neither a pure democracy nor a pure republic. After all, the main distinguishing thing of a republic is that the leader is not royal. How do the leaders get there? Why, democracy! Wendy P. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,117 #116 April 15, 2023 The government spends several billion a year in advertising. Fox gets a piece of that, too. Maybe they should start refusing anything remotely tainted by government dollars. Wendy P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 135 #117 April 15, 2023 On 3/11/2023 at 10:00 PM, billvon said: And I didn't see the word "gun" anywhere in the Second Amendment. So much for the right to own guns. Have a nice day! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,117 #118 April 16, 2023 6 hours ago, Slim King said: I agree 100% ... They are all just media wh@res who will say whatever they are paid to. Like the guys in those videos you post? Wendy P. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,340 #119 April 16, 2023 1 hour ago, wmw999 said: Like the guys in those videos you post? Wendy P. Oh please. There's a fairly big difference between a 'media whore' and a "Russian propagandist". Media whores will say anything they're paid to. Russians will say anything Putler tells them to. Because he'll have them thrown out of a 16th story window if they don't. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,384 #120 April 16, 2023 6 minutes ago, Slim King said: ...Ukraines losses . . . Please keep that in the existing threads on Ukraine. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,384 #121 April 17, 2023 Marjorie Taylor Greene opines on climate change: "We live on a spinning planet that rotates around a much bigger sun along with other planets and heavenly bodies rotating around the sun that all create gravitational pull on one another while our galaxy rotates and travels through the universe. Considering all of that, yes our climate will change, and it’s totally normal!” So for her, the climate is driven by . . . extrasolar gravitational forces. We should make a list of all the things that conservatives blame AGW on. Galactic gravitational forces Secret Jewish space lasers Termites Volcanoes Not "raking the forests" Nestle Delta smelt God's punishment for sin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,047 #122 April 17, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, billvon said: Marjorie Taylor Greene opines on climate change: "We live on a spinning planet that rotates around a much bigger sun along with other planets and heavenly bodies rotating around the sun that all create gravitational pull on one another while our galaxy rotates and travels through the universe. Considering all of that, yes our climate will change, and it’s totally normal!” So for her, the climate is driven by . . . extrasolar gravitational forces. We should make a list of all the things that conservatives blame AGW on. Galactic gravitational forces Secret Jewish space lasers Termites Volcanoes Not "raking the forests" Nestle Delta smelt God's punishment for sin Hi Bill, I read the first line & went, 'Oh, WTF now.' I'm sure that this is all probably part of her PHD dissertation in Physics. Jerry Baumchen Edited April 17, 2023 by JerryBaumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GeorgiaDon 340 #123 April 17, 2023 1 hour ago, JerryBaumchen said: I'm sure that this is all probably part of her PHD dissertation in Physics. Impressive, considering she already has a PhD in Microbiology. She invented the Peach Tree Dish. That's one smart cookie! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,340 #124 April 17, 2023 1 minute ago, GeorgiaDon said: Impressive, considering she already has a PhD in Microbiology. She invented the Peach Tree Dish. That's one smart cookie! Nah. She's just a Saltine. You know, a 'cracker.' 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites