al-Zawahiri taken out by Biden

[JoeWeber 2,294]

My sources tell me it was Hunter Biden, hoping to distract attention from his several felonies, who whacked al-Zawahiri with an AR-15 in front of a classroom of kids while he was giving a lecture on climate change.  Photo's reputedly show Hillary Clinton running away holding a to-go pizza box. As expected all of the real news is still being suppressed. It's that bad. Everyone should stock up now before the shelves are bare. God Bless.

[Phil1111 908]

Bush Jr. start two wars(Iraq and Afghanistan). Won one at the cost of $1.5 trillion. lost the other at a cost of $1.1 trillion.

Biden ended Bush's war.

President Obama killed  one Al-Qaeda leader.

President Biden killed one Al-Qaeda leader.

trump lost one trade war(China).

trump encouraged one war. Putin's invasion of Ukraine.“I went in yesterday and there was a television screen, and I said, ‘This is genius.’ Putin declares a big portion of the Ukraine — of Ukraine — Putin declares it as independent. Oh, that’s wonderful,” Trump said in a radio interview with “The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show.” “He used the word ‘independent’ and ‘we’re gonna go out and we’re gonna go in and we’re gonna help keep peace.’ You gotta say that’s pretty savvy.”

trump- no Al-Qaeda leaders. "Trump’s Bad Deal with the Taliban" Under peace envoy Zalmay Khalilzad, the administration seems poised to give away everything America has fought for in Afghanistan since 9/11.

[SkyDekker 1,121]

good time to bring this beauty back:

https://twitter.com/WUTangKids/status/1554241961938272256?s=20&t=CRpwTEyKP5P5cBaeNtJihQ

[billvon 2,380]

Ayman al-Zawahiri in 1998: "To kill Americans and their allies—civilian and military—is an individual duty for every Muslim who can do it in every country in which it is possible to do it.”

Biden yesterday: “No matter how long it takes, no matter where you hide, if you are a threat to our people, the United States will find you and take you out."  (And, it should be noted, taken out with zero collateral casualties.)

Republicans today: "Well . . . shit."

 

[JoeWeber 2,294]

50 minutes ago, Slim King said:

If the War in Afghanistan is over why is Biden still killing people?

He's not. He simply whacked an asshole. We need more of that.

[billvon 2,380]

56 minutes ago, Slim King said:

If the War in Afghanistan is over why is Biden still killing people?

Are you really defending the leader of Al Qaeda?  Wow.

[jakee 1,254]

1 hour ago, Slim King said:

If the War in Afghanistan is over why is Biden still killing people?

Are you not aware that Al Qaeda and Afghanistan are two different things?

[JoeWeber 2,294]

4 minutes ago, Slim King said:

Why is the USA allowing assassinations? Why does the CIA have a license to kill when we aren't at war? Even when we are? When we left Afghanistan 7 children and two innocent adults were killed by Biden's CIA missiles... And where was the outrage?

While we were there 2300 American soldiers were killed, was that outrageous? There are posters here who will drone you to death if you aren't careful; I have no problem with the government doing the same to terrorists who are known to have killed Americans, or anyone else for that matter. You'll see no outrage from me. In my view we should never have entered Afghanistan or Iraq. Better to have maintained or expanded the no-fly zones and when required kill those who need it from above.

[Phil1111 908]

17 minutes ago, Slim King said:

Why is the USA allowing assassinations? Why does the CIA have a license to kill when we aren't at war? Even when we are? When we left Afghanistan 7 children and two innocent adults were killed by Biden's CIA missiles... And where was the outrage?

Well for starters they weren't Biden's missiles. They were operated by the CIA who have been at war through the last four administrations. War on terror, remember? Bush, Obama, trump, Biden together with both parties have endorsed CIA drone operations and the killing of both terrorists and others. i.e. U.S. Strike in Iraq Kills Qassim Suleimani, Commander of Iranian Forces

4 minutes ago, Slim King said:

We should have never been there. We now know that Osama was in Pakistan most of the time and we didn't destroy them...????

You make counter-terror sound very simple. Elaborate on your ideas.

Edited August 15, 2022 by Phil1111

[JoeWeber 2,294]

1 minute ago, Slim King said:

We should have never been there. We now know that Osama was in Pakistan most of the time and we didn't destroy them...????

We have common ground. I think we should never have put large forces on the ground. Special Forces, absolutely. Air power, absolutely. Western nations spent 3300 lives, wrecked many more, and wasted $2 Trillion dollars on a nation whose president skied out before the end with a pallet of cash and an army that surrendered before being asked. Thank Bush before you blame Biden.

[jakee 1,254]

27 minutes ago, Slim King said:

Of course I am. Afghanistan is a Nation and Al Qaeda isn't... LOL

So could you explain the logic behind your question?

[jakee 1,254]

33 minutes ago, Slim King said:

When we left Afghanistan 7 children and two innocent adults were killed by Biden's CIA missiles... And where was the outrage?

I argued on here that the people who authorised that strike should go to prison. Still think so.

Unfortunately many other posters on here represent most people in the western world, and don't quite understand that people on the other side of the world are still human beings.

Edited August 15, 2022 by jakee

[lippy 765]

10 minutes ago, Slim King said:

Fact number one ... The 911 hijackers appeared to be mainly from SA .. True? 

Not sure, I heard recently that nobody's really gotten to the bottom of 9/11

[wolfriverjoe 1,340]

3 hours ago, lippy said:

Not sure, I heard recently that nobody's really gotten to the bottom of 9/11

The hijackers, the actual people who flew the planes into the buildings, were mostly Saudi nationals. So was Osama Bin Laden. 

How much other Saudis were involved has not been officially published, AFAIK.  There's been lots of speculation,  but no hard info. 

Don't forget that the bombing of the WTC in 93 had Saudi ties too.

Edited August 16, 2022 by wolfriverjoe

[gowlerk 1,903]

4 hours ago, Slim King said:

If the War in Afghanistan is over why is Biden still killing people?

Because that's what America does when it can. Just like Russia does Revenge is sweet.

[olofscience 420]

10 hours ago, Slim King said:

Fact number one ... The 911 hijackers appeared to be mainly from SA .. True? Most of them... Why didn't we bomb SA? Why did we instead take over a little country that produces the majority of heroin for the world? Because a CNN news crew told us Osama was hiding there? A late night radio guy warned us that this is exactly what was going to happen .. Then he was killed.

Whoever he is, at least we know Slim King isn't Rhys the nanothermite guy.

Osama bin Laden, however, was making his video press releases from Afghanistan at the time of 9/11. You can actually still find those videos, and the Taliban at the time acknowledged he was there.

But yeah sure...the Pentagon only took CNN's advice on where to attack... /s

[jakee 1,254]

20 minutes ago, olofscience said:

But yeah sure...the Pentagon only took CNN's advice on where to attack... /s

I was amused by the idea that Afghanistan, a right wing Neo-Con war at every step, is now being blamed on CNN. 
 

What’s next, Bernie Sanders took us into Iraq?

[olofscience 420]

46 minutes ago, jakee said:

I was amused by the idea that Afghanistan, a right wing Neo-Con war at every step, is now being blamed on CNN. 
 

What’s next, Bernie Sanders took us into Iraq?

It's just the usual - they never, ever, EVER, take responsibility for anything.

Did you see how Conservatives in Australia blamed Greens/environmentalists for the fires in 2019/2020 despite the Greens never ever having been in power?

Or how Labour is still being blamed for the UK's problems despite them being out of power for the past 12 years?

 

It was all that leaded gasoline, I think. How else can you explain old men behaving like toddlers?

[jakee 1,254]

1 hour ago, olofscience said:

Or how Labour is still being blamed for the UK's problems despite them being out of power for the past 12 years?

Yes the Tory leadership election campaigns would be hilarious if it wasn’t actually real. They’re both campaigning on how badly the country has been run yet they’ve both been in leadership roles in the Government for the past decade. 
 

The education secretary wrote a newspaper column backing Truss to ‘turn the ship around’ either without seeing the irony, or trusting that the true believers won’t see it despite it staring them in the face. Never mind that if you asked Truss for an example of how BoJo steered the ship in the wrong direction she’d say every decision he ever made was perfect and he regularly turned water into wine for them in Cabinet meetings!

[wolfriverjoe 1,340]

5 hours ago, jakee said:

I was amused by the idea that Afghanistan, a right wing Neo-Con war at every step, is now being blamed on CNN. 
 

What’s next, Bernie Sanders took us into Iraq?

Don't forget that the surrender to the Taliban was orchestrated by Trump. 

He cut out the Afghan government and told the Taliban we'd be leaving the country to them.
He then set it up so that Biden would be in office when it happened, and made it so it would be virtually impossible for Biden to reverse the process.

So all the Trumpette fools blame Biden for it.

[ryoder 1,380]

26 minutes ago, wolfriverjoe said:

Don't forget that the surrender to the Taliban was orchestrated by Trump. 

He cut out the Afghan government and told the Taliban we'd be leaving the country to them.
He then set it up so that Biden would be in office when it happened, and made it so it would be virtually impossible for Biden to reverse the process.

So all the Trumpette fools blame Biden for it.

Well, to be fair, he did everything in his power to prevent Biden from being in office when it happened.

[wolfriverjoe 1,340]

7 minutes ago, ryoder said:

Well, to be fair, he did everything in his power to prevent Biden from being in office when it happened.

Good point.

Ya gotta wonder how the idiots would have spun it if he had won.

What about the 'Americans left behind'?
What about 'all the military equipment left to the Taliban?'

[JoeWeber 2,294]

40 minutes ago, Slim King said:

Bidens retreat was NOTHING like Trumps agreement .. We hadn't lost a soldier in 18 Months.Trump wanted to keep the airbase and get the people out FIRST.

With the full benefit of hindsight how would you, as a newly elected US President, have completed US withdrawal from Afghanistan pursuant to the terms of Trumps Doha agreement?

[jakee 1,254]

40 minutes ago, Slim King said:

Bidens retreat was NOTHING like Trumps agreement .. We hadn't lost a soldier in 18 Months.

Right, the withdrawal agreement Trump signed meant they knew there was no need to attack western soldiers anymore, it worked in their favour to leave us alone and just plan the defeat of the Afghan Army instead. The Taliban are uneducated but they're not stupid.

[GeorgiaDon 340]

What complete and utter bullshit. 

Trump agreed to have all US forces out of Afghanistan by May 1 2021.  There is nothing in that agreement about hanging on to any airbase beyond May 1.  He did commit to releasing 5,000 Taliban prisoners (many of whom promptly rejoined ISIS and Al- Qaeda), and he did cut the Afghan government out of the negotiations.  His administration did virtually nothing to get any Afghan people who assisted the US and coalition forces out before that exit, and indeed they fought tooth and nail to make sure as few as possible made it to the US.   He kept to that timetable despite the Taliban violating almost every condition they had agreed to in the agreement.  Trump completely turned his back on the Afghan people, just as he did the Kurds earlier.

Biden delayed the US exit until the end of August but decided to follow through with ending US direct involvement in the war.  Remaining, in violation of Trump's agreement, could only have been done at the cost all out war with the Taliban, which would have required sending tens of thousands of US troops back into Afghanistan.  Between August 14 and the 25th, the US evacuated 82,300 people from the Kabul airport; including evacuations run by other coalition partners over 122,000 people were evacuated.  In comparison, between March and December 2020 the Trump administration processed only 532 visa applications from Afghan translators and others who assisted the US; they left the Biden administration a backlog over over 17,000 unprocessed applications.

Edited August 17, 2022 by GeorgiaDon