kallend 1,623 #101 May 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, porpoishead said: I don’t have an answer for what billy did and I knew billy well Despite your 100% confidence in your perfection as a gun owner, someday someone might be saying the exact same thing about you. There are tens of thousands of dead people, killed by those who thought they'd never have an accident with a gun, or crack like Billy, or have a child find their unsecured weapon, or ...... People with your attitude ARE the problem. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,048 #102 May 25, 2022 5 minutes ago, porpoishead said: Jakee did you know billy Vance? Hi Alex, I'm thinking that you did not know him as much as you thought. Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
porpoishead 5 #103 May 25, 2022 Given the consequences Wendy I’d trade my life for those girls they didn’t deserve that that’s the difficult part it’s easy to say “if” you took any and all firearms out of the equation I don’t know that it would have prevented what he did Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
porpoishead 5 #104 May 25, 2022 Apparently not Jerry I would have certainly talked him out if it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
porpoishead 5 #105 May 25, 2022 I don’t think that’s it Kallend Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,254 #106 May 25, 2022 21 minutes ago, porpoishead said: Jakee forgive me brother I don’t know you I don’t know who you are I have not posted in these forums on this site in a long time I know a lot of people that are posting on this topic but I’m just not up to speed on who’s who im Alex Figueredo and you are who? Jack - I've never jumped in the states though so it's unlikely we've ever met. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
porpoishead 5 #107 May 25, 2022 Fair enough Jack so it’s likely that you don’t do what I do and don’t frequent dangerous places where being unarmed would be very foolish. because of these differences you and I may never come to a complete agreement on a gun debate I respect that you choose to be unarmed and I also respect your position on anything else regardless if I agree or not. I get the outrage on this it’s understandable what billy did was pure horror i cannot defend what he did he went out pretty bad Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
porpoishead 5 #109 May 25, 2022 Billy didn’t have a lot of money I suspect maybe that’s why he wasn’t really interested from a financial standpoint he certainly wasn’t a criminal only time he had a scrape with the law was years ago he drove aggressively like a complete asshole and had road rage issues he was speeding trying to pass some ridiculous road beef and a trooper got after him so he tried to duck off on an exit and of course being deaf he was probably given all kinds of commands he didn’t follow so he got his ass kicked by the trooper on the side of the road… once they figured out what was what it was all resolved he was definitely interested in hunting again with financial constraints what can you do im not familiar with any restriction that would have prevented billy from owning a firearm Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,623 #110 May 25, 2022 4 minutes ago, porpoishead said: im not familiar with any restriction that would have prevented billy from owning a firearm Same is true for the Texas elementary school murderer. He was able to buy his guns with no restrictions. And THAT, right there, is the core of the problem. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
porpoishead 5 #111 May 25, 2022 What restrictions do you think would prevent these things Kallend?? from people wanting to do evil things like killing women and children? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
porpoishead 5 #112 May 25, 2022 What stopped the massacre?? An armed person correct?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,121 #113 May 25, 2022 Just now, porpoishead said: What stopped the massacre?? An armed person correct?? Pretty sure a massacre already took place by that point. So nothing, nothing stopped the massacre. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
porpoishead 5 #114 May 25, 2022 Somehow in all these debates that start with a bad person with bad intentions somehow “the core” as you call it Kallend gets lost in translation… in your opinion who should be armed and who shouldn’t please explain that to me. who’s life is worth defending and who’s isn’t?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
porpoishead 5 #115 May 25, 2022 Justin I love you brother I haven’t spoken to you in a while I hope you are doing well… an armed man that was willing to risk his life so that others could live stopped that massacre by shooting and killing the bad guy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,382 #116 May 25, 2022 48 minutes ago, SkyDekker said: Pretty sure a massacre already took place by that point. So nothing, nothing stopped the massacre. After the gunman gained entry to the school, police from various departments gathered to form a tactical unit. A Border Patrol tactical unit responded to the scene, and one of its agents shot and killed the suspect, according to a source with the agency. Source: NPR: What we know so far about the school shooting in Uvalde, Texas Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,121 #117 May 25, 2022 12 minutes ago, ryoder said: After the gunman gained entry to the school, police from various departments gathered to form a tactical unit. A Border Patrol tactical unit responded to the scene, and one of its agents shot and killed the suspect, according to a source with the agency. Source: NPR: What we know so far about the school shooting in Uvalde, Texas Yes, like I said, a massacre had already taken place by then. So no, a massacre was not stopped. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
porpoishead 5 #118 May 25, 2022 Ok Justin square business, an armed person shot and killed the bad guy before he could do further harm. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
porpoishead 5 #119 May 25, 2022 Unfortunately I don’t live in city limits so is it ok if I’m armed to defend myself and my family?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stumpy 256 #120 May 25, 2022 2 hours ago, porpoishead said: I will not give either brother, I will defend myself and my family from those that seek to do evil I will stop the threat Billy said almost exactly this a few days ago. As long as you understand that the gun you own is FAR more likely to be used against you and yours than you stopping any imagined "threat", then at least you have the facts. You can lead a horse to water etc..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
porpoishead 5 #121 May 25, 2022 None of mine will be used against me guaranteed and me killing a bunch of girls will never happen no matter what. I’m not billy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stumpy 256 #122 May 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, porpoishead said: None of mine will be used against me guaranteed and me killing a bunch of girls will never happen no matter what. I’m not billy Ahhh yes. Of course. You are special. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
porpoishead 5 #123 May 25, 2022 Billy used to like to parrot a bunch of things he heard here and there without having a fundamental understanding of what he was actually saying. that’s not me I’m not just talking some bullshit to stir the pot Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
porpoishead 5 #124 May 25, 2022 I am special stumpy thanks brother… I’ll tell you what I’m not is some murdering scumbag Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,340 #125 May 25, 2022 2 hours ago, porpoishead said: I don’t claim to know the future I know this we are surrounded by evil and you never know when it will come No. We aren't 'surrounded by evil'. I don't disagree with the 'you never know when it will come', but to pretend we live in a time and place where it's necessary to be armed and the unarmed are at the mercy of the 'thugs' is just silly. There was a post by BillEisle (sp?) a month or so ago about people leaving their guns in their unlocked cars at night and the guns being stolen. So these people live in a place so dangerous and crime-infested that they feel the need to have a gun in their car at all times, yet leave it unlocked in the driveway at night? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
