Ukraine

[The Hundredth Monkey 1]

17 hours ago, JerryBaumchen said:

Hi folks,

Slowly, things are looking better:  Ukraine has won the battle of Kharkiv, analysts say, as Kyiv warns of ‘long phase of war’ | Russia | The Guardian

Jerry Baumchen

Ukraine is proper fucked, they are dependent only on war crimes being carried out in a full gaslighting, desperate racketeering operation, exemplifying how screwed and compromised all these unhinged kid fuckers are.

'Woodchippers' is the buzzword BTW, for those in the culty echo chamber.

[wmw999 1,221]

20 minutes ago, The Hundredth Monkey said:

those in the culty echo chamber.

Your username is “hundredth monkey” and you talk about the culty echo chamber? Pretty rich, dude.

Wendy P. 

[The Hundredth Monkey 1]

12 minutes ago, wmw999 said:

Your username is “hundredth monkey” and you talk about the culty echo chamber? Pretty rich, dude.

Wendy P. 

I'd be interested to hear you articulate your connection.

The Hundredth Monkey eludes to a critical mass of a certain action.

Your projection eludes to your being somewhat nihilist, would that be a correct assumption?

[olofscience 211]

9 minutes ago, The Hundredth Monkey said:

The Hundredth Monkey eludes to a critical mass of a certain action.

Like how the Ontario "Freedom Convoy" got repeated in the US?

Did you attend that by any chance?

It's definitely reached critical mass by now. Like how Ukraine has now been defeated in day 80 of the 2-day war...

[olofscience 211]

4 hours ago, metalslug said:

Trump has certainly been flattering of Putin in earlier times, but you would do well to take an actual look at "these days"; Barely a month ago Trump was asked during an interview with Piers Morgan if he would now agree that Putin was a "...an evil genocidal monster?" and responded with "I do, for sure, and who wouldn't? What’s happening is horrible." , in addition to stating that he regarded Putin's threats of nuclear strikes as unacceptable and would counter them with reminders of the West's superior arsenal.  Therefore; these days it's not the 'best mates' narrative that lefties continue to sell.  I dislike Trump myself, I've said it several times, but he should be disliked for valid reasons rather than outdated narratives.

He's doing lip service, the bare minimum to condemn Putin because in truth he loves Putin. He can't hide it. But given how selfish he is, even he can see being linked to Putin isn't going to benefit him. And benefiting Trump is all Trump cares about.

Even after the war started he was still heaping praises on Putin - that falls in the category of "these days".

No, you're just telling yourself that because you dislike lefties more than you dislike Trump. Fine, dislike lefties, but lying to yourself won't do you any good.

[gowlerk 1,194]

5 hours ago, metalslug said:

I dislike Trump myself, I've said it several times, but he should be disliked for valid reasons rather than outdated narratives.

Putin is now killing white Christians. Of course he is evil now but okay before.

Edited May 15 by gowlerk

[gowlerk 1,194]

1 hour ago, The Hundredth Monkey said:

The Hundredth Monkey eludes to a critical mass of a certain action.

You would seem to be the only monkey.

[wmw999 1,221]

The hundredth monkey is a largely discredited theory; it’s more complicated than that. But more than anything, if true, the hundredth monkey is only the last one to take some outlandish idea on before it supposedly becomes general. He’s not the harbinger of truth. And an identification with a hundredth monkey kind of implies an outsized sense of one’s influence.

This is my perception, not the result of detailed analysis  but then most people who come here with lots of claims to true knowledge tend to have an outsized sense of their importance. Among other things, this is the not-quite-moribund political subforum of a skydiving website; it’s where the people who just couldn’t play nicely with the others were consigned to. 

Wendy P. 

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3 hours ago, The Hundredth Monkey said:

While Zelensky outlaws opposition parties, he pays his dues down in the Azovstal Steel Mill nuclear bunker/dungeon...

(80) WEAPONIZED AIDS - ZELENSKY IN HIGH HEELS - YouTube

Your video must be very distressing for Russia.  Imagine the embarrassment for the world’s largest country to be getting its ass kicked by a small effeminate high heal wearing Zelenskyy.

[wmw999 1,221]

I can’t believe I just did that

Wendy P. 

[yoink 307]

Finland have announced their request to join NATO, with Sweden not far behind.

You can’t help thinking that maybe this war is having the opposite effect to part of Putins reason for starting it in the first place - certainly Russias geographical defensibility will be worse in the long run now than it was previously.

Hopefully it doesn’t push him to do anything rash.

[Erroll 23]

2 hours ago, The Hundredth Monkey said:

The Hundredth Monkey eludes to a critical mass of a certain action.

Common sense appears to elude you.

[Phil1111 437]

6 hours ago, metalslug said:

Trump has certainly been flattering of Putin in earlier times, but you would do well to take an actual look at "these days"; Barely a month ago Trump was asked during an interview with Piers Morgan if he would now agree that Putin was a "...an evil genocidal monster?" and responded with "I do, for sure, and who wouldn't? What’s happening is horrible." , in addition to stating that he regarded Putin's threats of nuclear strikes as unacceptable and would counter them with reminders of the West's superior arsenal.  Therefore; these days it's not the 'best mates' narrative that lefties continue to sell.  I dislike Trump myself, I've said it several times, but he should be disliked for valid reasons rather than outdated narratives.

That is not true. Like everything else about trump he likes to play both sides of any issue. Then play to his base. Then blame others.

Feb 22, 2022 "Donald Trump on Wednesday called Russian President Vladimir Putin "very smart" for launching a full-scale invasion of Ukraine, suggesting that he supports a military conflict that will lead to untold civilian death. 

"I mean, he's taken over a country for $2 worth of sanctions. I'd say that's pretty smart," Trump said during a Mar-a-Lago fundraiser. "He's taking over a country, literally, a vast, vast, location, a great piece of land with a lot of people, and just walking right in." 

Despite praising the invasion, Trump also claimed that it "never would have happened" under his watch, saying that he knows Putin "very well … almost as well as anybody in this room."

"March 1: “The RINOs, Warmongers, and Fake News continue to blatantly lie and misrepresent my remarks on Putin because they know this terrible war being waged against Ukraine would have never happened under my watch … There should be no war waging now in Ukraine, and it is terrible for humanity that Biden, NATO, and the West have failed so terribly in allowing it to start.”

So they are to blame and not Putin?

"March 15: “Now with what’s going on with Russia and Ukraine, among many other things, the great and wonderful people of Hungary need the continued strong leadership of Prime Minister Viktor Orban more than ever.” (Note that, among the NATO countries, Orbán has taken a uniquely pro-Russia stance. So Trump’s argument that “what’s going on with Russia and Ukraine” makes his election more important directly implies that Orbán’s refusal to support NATO’s response to the invasion makes him more valuable.)

Only once did Trump use an active-voice construction to identify Russia as the aggressor (“If the Election wasn’t Rigged … Russia would not have attacked Ukraine”). On every other occasion, he has relied on verbal contortions to mask its author."

Not once has trump called for Russia to get out of Ukraine. Not once has he called out Putin's crimes in Ukraine. Instead he praises Orban of Hungary. The sole European country refusing to limit Russian oil exports.

trump would never have led, or allowed, any international effort to sanction Putin. That is a fact.

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2 hours ago, The Hundredth Monkey said:

The Hundredth Monkey eludes

That’s not the word you were looking for.

2 hours ago, The Hundredth Monkey said:

to a critical mass of a certain action.
 

That doesn’t mean anything.

[gowlerk 1,194]

55 minutes ago, Erroll said:

Common sense appears to elude you.

As does spelling and grammar apparently. Here is a link to help the lonely monkey.

 

https://ielts.idp.com/canada/prepare/article-grammar-101-elude-vs-allude

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2 hours ago, yoink said:

Finland have announced their request to join NATO, with Sweden not far behind.

You can’t help thinking that maybe this war is having the opposite effect to part of Putins reason for starting it in the first place - certainly Russias geographical defensibility will be worse in the long run now than it was previously.

Hopefully it doesn’t push him to do anything rash.

Only one problem... To join NATO, the vote by all NATO countries must be unanimous. Turkey isn't supporting their inclusion. Correct me if I'm wrong. 

[gowlerk 1,194]

Just now, BillyVance said:

Only one problem... To join NATO, the vote by all NATO countries must be unanimous. Turkey isn't supporting their inclusion. Correct me if I'm wrong. 

I heard a brief mention of that, then nothing more. It's a good point, Turkey is a very reluctant NATO member and is always troublesome. 

[BillyVance 32]

2 hours ago, Phil1111 said:

That is not true. Like everything else about trump he likes to play both sides of any issue. Then play to his base. Then blame others.

Kind of like how Biden has been blaming everyone else except his own administration for all of his policy failures, record border crossings, record inflation, record crime, record gas prices, etc? 

Riiiiiiiight. 

[BillyVance 32]

3 minutes ago, gowlerk said:

I heard a brief mention of that, then nothing more. It's a good point, Turkey is a very reluctant NATO member and is always troublesome. 

They do have somewhat good ties to Russia and yes that is a problem. 

[Phil1111 437]

1 minute ago, BillyVance said:

Only one problem... To join NATO, the vote by all NATO countries must be unanimous. Turkey isn't supporting their inclusion. Correct me if I'm wrong. 

IMO Finland and Sweden should be voted in and Turkey voted out. Sweden and Finland have given sanctuary to some Islamic members and groups that Turkey has issues with. Associated with the coup and the PKK. So Turkey is likely going to want accommodation for that.

U.S. sanctions Turkey over purchase of Russian S-400 missile system

 

[yoink 307]

5 minutes ago, BillyVance said:

Only one problem... To join NATO, the vote by all NATO countries must be unanimous. Turkey isn't supporting their inclusion. Correct me if I'm wrong. 

True. 
Turkey has been complaining for years that Sweden and Finland support the PKK terrorist groups in their country, but have never provided any proof.

I suspect that a promise that ‘we won’t do that’ is probably enough to get past that hurdle.

 

[yoink 307]

1 minute ago, Phil1111 said:

IMO Finland and Sweden should be voted in and Turkey voted out. Sweden and Finland have given sanctuary to some Islamic members and groups that Turkey has issues with. Associated with the coup and the PKK. So Turkey is likely going to want accommodation for that.

U.S. sanctions Turkey over purchase of Russian S-400 missile system

 

I agree 100%

 

[JoeWeber 1,189]

3 hours ago, wmw999 said:

I can’t believe I just did that

Wendy P. 

It ain't easy being green. No worries, only we'un's need be concerned over our permanent records.

[Phil1111 437]

24 minutes ago, BillyVance said:

... Correct me if I'm wrong. 

 

18 minutes ago, BillyVance said:

Kind of like how Biden has been blaming everyone else except his own administration for all of his policy failures, record border crossings, record inflation, record crime, record gas prices, etc? 

Riiiiiiiight. 

Well I could go on for pages. The US federal reserve has the independent duty to control inflation. Not Biden. Gas prices are determined by supply demand and international market forces. Not the President.

America Is Having a Violence Wave, Not a Crime Wave

“There was no crime wave—there was a tsunami of lethal violence, and that’s it,” Philip Cook, a crime expert at Duke University, wrote to me in an email.

"The murder rate rose by nearly 30 percent, the largest increase on record. There were about 21,500 murders, or 6.5 per 100,000 people. Aggravated assault, the most common form of violent crime, rose 12 percent. Among other components of the violent-crime rate, robbery actually decreased and rape reports were flat. But property crimes overall fell 8 percent, led by drops in burglary and larceny—though motor-vehicle theft increased."

I'm sure you'll be blaming Biden for the murders in Buffalo this weekend. But wrong is right for you.

[BillyVance 32]

26 minutes ago, Phil1111 said:

IMO Finland and Sweden should be voted in and Turkey voted out. Sweden and Finland have given sanctuary to some Islamic members and groups that Turkey has issues with. Associated with the coup and the PKK. So Turkey is likely going to want accommodation for that.

U.S. sanctions Turkey over purchase of Russian S-400 missile system

 

I'd be interested to know what it takes to kick Turkey out. It's a Muslim majority nation whose values rarely align with the rest of NATO, no?