Ukraine

[wolfriverjoe 1,094]

5 hours ago, jakee said:

And now the situation is so bad for Russia you can’t even write your own propaganda, you just copy and paste someone else’s.

in a football game the second string doesn’t usually take over because the first string are all dead. Kind of a big difference there.

You also don't pull seventy year old players out of retirement because all the first string has either been blown up or captured (mainly after being abandoned).

[Phil1111 691]

19 minutes ago, wolfriverjoe said:

You also don't pull seventy year old players out of retirement because all the first string has either been blown up or captured (mainly after being abandoned).

What if the 70 year olds are the only ones who can remember how to run and fix 70 year old POS equipment. Which is all thats left.

Meanwhile in Russia, of RTV. NATO wants Russia's land and natural resources.

[wolfriverjoe 1,094]

Just now, Phil1111 said:

What if the 70 year olds are the only ones who can remember how to run and fix 70 year old POS equipment. Which is all thats left.

Meanwhile in Russia, of RTV. NATO wants Russia's land and natural resources.

Well, I was using Slim's analogy and referring to the T-54 tanks being brought to Ukraine.

And the reality that the only ones who know how to fix those ancient tanks are likely retired tankers, who are in their 70s.

Which is a pretty big problem, because the life expectancy of the average Russian male is well under 70.
So most of them are dead.

And, in the "good news" department:

 

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...today, in one of a series of videos, the leader of the mercenary Wagner Group that has been fighting for Putin, Yevgeny Prigozhin, expressed fury at the Kremlin for leaving his men without supplies and vowed to leave the key city of Bakhmut on May 10. Standing surrounded by corpses, he raged: “Those are soldiers we lost today. Their blood is still fresh…. They were someone’s sons or fathers. You, f*ckers, who don’t give us ammo, will burn in hell.”

Prigozhin could simply be jockeying for power, but a less ambiguous sign that Russia is in trouble is that Belarus has set up new border controls for Russians trying to enter their borders.

Heather Cox Richardson's May 5th post
https://www.facebook.com/heathercoxrichardson

It sounds more and more like Bakhmut ISN'T going to fall to those 'vicious cutthroats' anytime soon.

Because they're going to run away due to being fucked by Vladolf.

[Phil1111 691]

22 minutes ago, wolfriverjoe said:

....It sounds more and more like Bakhmut ISN'T going to fall to those 'vicious cutthroats' anytime soon.

Because they're going to run away due to being fucked by Vladolf.

Its my understanding that Putin wanted a big victory by May 9th. The 77th anniversary of the allies victory over NAZI Germany. So he sent additional airborne units into the fight.

Given the control over RTV and the internet. He'll likely declare victory somewhere.I'm sure Slim will let everyone know where that victory happened. A kindergarten in Kiev perhaps? A hospital?

[wolfriverjoe 1,094]

9 minutes ago, Phil1111 said:

Its my understanding that Putin wanted a big victory by May 9th. The 77th anniversary of the allies victory over NAZI Germany. So he sent additional airborne units into the fight.

Given the control over RTV and the internet. He'll likely declare victory somewhere.I'm sure Slim will let everyone know where that victory happened. A kindergarten in Kiev perhaps? A hospital?

Yup. However, 'Victory Day' parades are being cancelled all over Russia.

Various reasons are being suggested.

No tanks or troops to be in the parade.

The "Immortality Regiments" are so much bigger with the casualties in Ukraine approaching 200k. For the Russian public to see how many new recruits are "immortalized' would not be good.

Officially it's 'security concerns' that are stopping the parades.

And that may (amazingly) be at least some of the truth.

There's a contest set for May 9th.

One of the co-founders of a Ukrainian online bank is offering a prize of around $540k (USD) to the first person to land a drone on Red Square on "Victory Day".

https://news.yahoo.com/founder-fintech-company-ukraine-offering-161302067.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAM6T5dKrjUIfGYzJQa5fOGzN-mwx42sN4hrOcg7SZleUs0eU2r499A9Rwk_iQ4yci9OUJkfZndyHqMRP-70aq5YSQMUJvIL3T7mrgZ8gBpoqHBKJkRYHlHvmPOAUfxEUynsxvamm2EFymjXGUKR1Ds4AQi_Ld2M-Zrguh5gQlq1z

That would be absolutely hilarious.
 

[jakee 981]

14 minutes ago, Phil1111 said:

Its my understanding that Putin wanted a big victory by May 9th. The 77th anniversary of the allies victory over NAZI Germany. So he sent additional airborne units into the fight.

Given the control over RTV and the internet. He'll likely declare victory somewhere.I'm sure Slim will let everyone know where that victory happened. A kindergarten in Kiev perhaps? A hospital?

They’ve now cancelled almost all 9th of May parades and celebrations. Ostensibly for security concerns (admitting they can’t keep their skies safe from Ukrainian drones) but probably because they don’t wants crowds of people turning up with with mementos of relatives who died in Ukraine, drawing attention to their staggering losses. 

[ryoder 1,063]

1 hour ago, wolfriverjoe said:

There's a contest set for May 9th.

One of the co-founders of a Ukrainian online bank is offering a prize of around $540k (USD) to the first person to land a drone on Red Square on "Victory Day".
 

Maybe Mathias Rust will take up the challenge (again):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathias_Rust

[wolfriverjoe 1,094]

10 hours ago, ryoder said:

Maybe Mathias Rust will take up the challenge (again):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathias_Rust

I was thinking similar things.

But Rust flew a 172, not a drone.

I think landing a manned aircraft there, in today's political environment would be a REALLY bad idea.
Putler is just about out of patience. And humor.

Edited May 7 by wolfriverjoe

[Slim King 39]

Sad news... The Russians are shelling the hell out of Bakhmut.  Much of the remaining city is smoldering. Unfortunately the death toll is increasing day by day. Rather than rely on the propaganda by either side just use your own eyes. You can easily find video's of Bakhmut burning under the Phosphorus bombs and heavy artillery fire. Russia doesn't need to send in ground troops. War is HELL and Russia is proving it. Seek peace now before Russia burns another 20,000 kids alive. Russia has put in the second string. They no longer need Wagner for this mop up. Such a useless loss of life. Warmongering is evil.

[olofscience 326]

2 hours ago, Slim King said:

Sad news... The Russians are shelling the hell out of Bakhmut.

Not according to your boss Prigozhin. Have you seen his latest videos?

[wolfriverjoe 1,094]

10 hours ago, Slim King said:

... Russia doesn't need to send in ground troops. War is HELL and Russia is proving it. Seek peace now before Russia burns another 20,000 kids alive. Russia has put in the second string. They no longer need Wagner for this mop up. Such a useless loss of life. Warmongering is evil.

Doesn't NEED to send in ground troops?

Ha. 

Try 'don't have any left to.'

Don't NEED Wagner for the 'mop up'?

Ha again.

Try "Wagner is running away from the mop up". Prigzohin has said he's going to quit fighting in Bakhmut in a couple more days, because Russia won't give him what he wants.
Mostly because Russia is just about out of everything and won't be able to sustain the war for much longer. The fact that they're trying to get artillery shells from Myanmar and North Korea is pretty telling.


And you're absolutely right that war mongering is evil.

Putler should simply pack up and go home. That would end the evil in Ukraine.

The Ukrainians have decided they won't capitulate to evil. They'd rather fight and die than be subjugated and exterminated by Vladolf (which is something he's explicitly stated).

[Slim King 39]

FISHED IN!!!!!!! Instead of retreating WAGNER just assaulted Bakhmut big time!!!!!! Russia gave them the ammo they requested and now the city of Bakhmut is in flames. The Russians captured and tortured a Ukrainian. He said that Ukraine had held several thousand civilians in basements of Bakhmut instead of letting them flee 9 months ago. The poor prisoner said that Ukraine would used them as HUMAN SHIELDS in order to escape if need be. Can this be true? Torture is another horror of war just like human shields of women and children. Stop the war ... Negotiate peace and save lives.

[Phil1111 691]

Russians have started to flee Crimea  500k to 800k Russians are living in occupied Crimea. They have now realized that squatting in Ukraine may not be safe. So back home they go. No buyers have been found for the Russian owned properties.

Hey Slim. When its cold in St. Petersburg you could spend some time in Crimea instead. Cheap sea-side villas. Does the FSB- Internet Research Agency allow work from home?

[Slim King 39]

45 minutes ago, Phil1111 said:

Russians have started to flee Crimea  500k to 800k Russians are living in occupied Crimea. They have now realized that squatting in Ukraine may not be safe. So back home they go. No buyers have been found for the Russian owned properties.

Hey Slim. When its cold in St. Petersburg you could spend some time in Crimea instead. Cheap sea-side villas. Does the FSB- Internet Research Agency allow work from home?

I'm a performer. So I have to move around. My movie company is gaining strength in this market. Check out "Hunting Games" on Tubi.... Just out.

[jakee 981]

8 hours ago, Slim King said:

Stop the war ... Negotiate peace and save lives.

Stop lying. You’ve made it abundantly clear time and time again that you only want peace once Russia has got everything it wants.

[Phil1111 691]

4 hours ago, jakee said:

Stop lying. You’ve made it abundantly clear time and time again that you only want peace once Russia has got everything it wants.

Is it time to end the free mouthpiece for Putin propaganda. Where an indicted war criminal has paid propagandists spreading misinformation.Lies.

Is it time for SC to send Slim packing? To the DZ in the Crimea.

[wolfriverjoe 1,094]

13 hours ago, Slim King said:

FISHED IN!!!!!!! Instead of retreating WAGNER just assaulted Bakhmut big time!!!!!! Russia gave them the ammo they requested and now the city of Bakhmut is in flames. The Russians captured and tortured a Ukrainian. He said that Ukraine had held several thousand civilians in basements of Bakhmut instead of letting them flee 9 months ago. The poor prisoner said that Ukraine would used them as HUMAN SHIELDS in order to escape if need be. Can this be true? Torture is another horror of war just like human shields of women and children. Stop the war ... Negotiate peace and save lives.

Soooo..

Let me get this straight.

You're bragging that the Russians are committing war crimes?
Really?

And the idea that Ukrainians would use civilians as 'human shields' is probably the silliest thing you've posted (and that's saying something).

The Ukrainians could easily have left Bakhmut at any time. They've had solid supply routes into the city for all that they need to slaughter the orcs, they could have left any time they chose. 

And the idea that the Russians wouldn't attack Ukrainian soldiers if they had 'human shields' is totally ridiculous.

The Russians are DELIBERATELY targeting civilians. The orcs have tortured and murdered THOUSANDS  of Ukrainian civilians. 
When they invaded, they has LISTS of civilians to target.

Now, if you had said that it was the orcs who were holding civilians to use as human shields, that I might believe. 
Chickenshit behavior like that is expected from them.

[jakee 981]

13 minutes ago, wolfriverjoe said:

You're bragging that the Russians are committing war crimes?
Really?

Right, a lovely individual is our Slim. And he clearly doesn’t understand that you don’t actually torture people for information. You torture them so they’ll supply disinformation. “Say what we want you to say or we’ll keep crushing your balls in a vice” is ultimately going to be an effective technique when you try it enough times.

 

So when someone says “we tortured a guy and he says his side is going to do XYZ!” well, that’s how you know that claim XYZ is total bullshit. Again it’s just amazing how intent Slim is on demonstrating his total ignorance of the world.

Edited May 8 by jakee

[olofscience 326]

2 hours ago, wolfriverjoe said:

You're bragging that the Russians are committing war crimes?
Really?

He actually called for war crimes to be committed in a previous post.

 

Somehow he's still here, cheering on war crimes and defending nazi language.

[riggerrob 501]

17 hours ago, Slim King said:

FISHED IN!!!!!!! Instead of retreating WAGNER just assaulted Bakhmut big time!!!!!! Russia gave them the ammo they requested and now the city of Bakhmut is in flames. The Russians captured and tortured a Ukrainian. He said that Ukraine had held several thousand civilians in basements of Bakhmut instead of letting them flee 9 months ago. The poor prisoner said that Ukraine would used them as HUMAN SHIELDS in order to escape if need be. Can this be true? Torture is another horror of war just like human shields of women and children. Stop the war ... Negotiate peace and save lives.

There is no point to negotiating with armies that torture prisoners-of-war.

It becomes a question of: "Would you prefer to be tortured today or tortured tomorrow?"

The Geneva Convention bans torturing prisoners-of-war because the practice is ultimately unprofitable. First, victims will cheerfully tell you ANYTHING in hopes of stopping torture. Whether torture victims tell the truth is .... vague ... difficult to predict ....

Secondly, if they expect to be tortured, soldiers are less likely to surrender. If they expect to be tortured, they will fight to the bitter end, long after hope is lost.

Thirdly, if they have tortured prisoners-of-war, those subjugated people are more difficult to rule in the long run. Many centuries ago, Western European nobles figured out that if they only displace the ruling elite, it is much easier to convince peasants to return to their plows. Apparently Eastern Europeans are not bright enough to lean this lesson. They will need to mature a few more centuries before they understand the Geneva Convention.

[billvon 1,945]

On 5/6/2023 at 9:22 PM, Slim King said:

Warmongering is evil.

Agreed.  

Enjoy your time off.

[riggerrob 501]

As I suspected the current war in Ukraine is partially funded by drug smugglers. The latest issue of "THE ECONOMIST" outlines how the current war in Ukraine is interrupting traditional smuggling routes while opening up new opportunities.

Traditionally, Afghan-grown opium moved towards Western European markets via the old Silk Roads (see books by Frankopan). Most of the Post-Cold War fighting has been along the traditional Silk Roads through China, Turkmenistan, Persia/Iran, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Turkey, the former Yugoslavia, etc. There is also an alternate Northern Silk Road through Ukraine and Poland.

Back during the 1990s, I could not understand who was financing the civil war in the former Yugoslavia. Even with wealthy diasporas in Western Europe and North America funding private armies, it was difficult to understand who was financing the fighting in the former Yugoslavia. It only started to make sense when I read "Whistleblower" (book and feature film) written by an American femal police officer who went to the former Yugoslavia to train Yugo police on modern policing methods. She blew the whistle on how U.N. troops were knowingly and unknowingly abetting Serbians who were smuggling drugs and human sex slaves from Eastern Europe to Western Europe. In one case, a U.N. ambulance was used to move sex slaves across Serbian/Croatian lines.

Most of those sex slaves were pretty young women born in Ukraine or Russia who were offered low-skilled jobs in Western Europe or North America, but they ended up as strippers (exotic dancers) or prostitutes. These are the "Ukrainian widows" that Slim sees advertised on the internet.

Nowadays, fighting in the Eastern provinces/oblasts of Ukraine interupts traditional smuggling routes. It is difficult to move illicit goods Westwards past mine fields, trenches and trigger-happy artillerymen. Organized criminals are forced to develop new routes farther north or farther south. Some patriotic Ukrainian gangsters refuse to do business with Russian invaders, while others just see new opportunities for profits.

Speaking of profits ... after the war .. when it comes time to rebuild Ukraine, organized criminals will see plenty of opportunities for graft, corruption, bribes, shoddy work, etc. We hope that Western donors will also send plenty of auditors and inspectors to keep Ukrainian construction companies honest.

[Phil1111 691]

4 hours ago, olofscience said:

He actually called for war crimes to be committed in a previous post.

 

Somehow he's still here, cheering on war crimes and defending nazi language.

“Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.”

[wolfriverjoe 1,094]

2 hours ago, Phil1111 said:

“Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.”

He's not an idiot.

He has some fairly indefensible positions, but, if nothing else, his spelling and grammar are usually correct.

It's pretty clear who and what he is. A true idiot wouldn't be in that role.

We've had some pretty stupid people posting on here.

 

He's not in that class.

[kallend 1,345]

6 hours ago, wolfriverjoe said:

. . . . if nothing else, his spelling and grammar are usually correct.

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So are ChatGPT's.