kallend 1,622 #1 Posted February 4, 2022 A mob of Trump’s supporters stormed the US Capitol complex, brutalizing police officers and sending lawmakers into hiding. Nine people died in connection with the attack and more than 150 officers were injured. The GOP's RNC just passed a resolution without discussion and almost without dissent, calling it "legitimate political discourse". Has the GOP gone mad? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,381 #2 February 4, 2022 Wait...are they discarding the narrative that it was a false-flag operation by Antifa??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,391 #3 February 4, 2022 4 minutes ago, ryoder said: Wait...are they discarding the narrative that it was a false-flag operation by Antifa??? ?? No. They can claim both things at the same time. I mean, look at all the climate change deniers who regularly say "The Earth is NOT WARMING! Warming ended in 1998!" and "Of course the earth is warming naturally like it always has!" To them there's no contradiction there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,047 #5 February 5, 2022 3 hours ago, kallend said: A mob of Trump’s supporters stormed the US Capitol complex, brutalizing police officers and sending lawmakers into hiding. Nine people died in connection with the attack and more than 150 officers were injured. The GOP's RNC just passed a resolution without discussion and almost without dissent, calling it "legitimate political discourse". Has the GOP gone mad? Hi John, In a word: Yes Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lippy 771 #6 February 5, 2022 They made a calculation that this was the right play politically….I REALLY hope that they calculated wrong, for the sake of the country that I had to work to become a citizen of. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 383 #7 February 5, 2022 17 hours ago, kallend said: A mob of Trump’s supporters stormed the US Capitol complex, brutalizing police officers and sending lawmakers into hiding. Nine people died in connection with the attack and more than 150 officers were injured. The GOP's RNC just passed a resolution without discussion and almost without dissent, calling it "legitimate political discourse". Has the GOP gone mad? “The right to petition government for redress of grievances is the right to make a complaint to, or seek the assistance of, one's government, without fear of punishment or reprisals” Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 186 #8 February 5, 2022 15 hours ago, JerryBaumchen said: Hi John, In a word: Yes Jerry Baumchen To disagree with the Obvious Truths espoused by the Democrats? Madness! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 186 #9 February 5, 2022 19 hours ago, ryoder said: Wait...are they discarding the narrative that it was a false-flag operation by Antifa??? Turns out the biggest rabble rousers were FBI ( not 'antifa') plants. Surprise, surprise. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,121 #10 February 7, 2022 On 2/5/2022 at 7:56 AM, winsor said: Turns out the biggest rabble rousers were FBI ( not 'antifa') plants. Surprise, surprise. So the right is easily led astray and can't think for themselves. Johnny did it first type of defense. Isn't that the exact opposite of what you claim to stand for? Or are you claiming that all of them were FBI plants? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,391 #11 February 7, 2022 On 2/5/2022 at 7:56 AM, winsor said: Turns out the biggest rabble rousers were FBI ( not 'antifa') plants. Surprise, surprise. "It is a glorious day for freedom in America!" "What? Not so much? Well, there was no violence." "OK so there was violence - but it was Antifa! No, it was BLM for sure! No? No one is buying that? Well . . . it was the FBI! Yeah, that's it." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 186 #12 February 7, 2022 1 hour ago, SkyDekker said: So the right is easily led astray and can't think for themselves. Johnny did it first type of defense. Isn't that the exact opposite of what you claim to stand for? Or are you claiming that all of them were FBI plants? Could you point to what I 'claim to stand for?' I don't seem to recall making such a claim. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,121 #13 February 7, 2022 5 minutes ago, winsor said: Could you point to what I 'claim to stand for?' I don't seem to recall making such a claim. Supposedly evidence based and responsibility for one's own actions.....no? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 910 #14 February 7, 2022 On 2/4/2022 at 8:17 PM, lippy said: They made a calculation that this was the right play politically….I REALLY hope that they calculated wrong, for the sake of the country that I had to work to become a citizen of. Not all work is rewarded. Look at Kinzinger and Cheney. They worked on the Jan. 6th committee to defend the constitution and instead got it up the A$$ from the GOP. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 910 #15 February 7, 2022 On 2/5/2022 at 9:56 AM, winsor said: Turns out the biggest rabble rousers were FBI ( not 'antifa') plants. Surprise, surprise. The massive burden must weigh heavy on your White shoulders. The FBI, minorities, ANTIFA, all out to woke you over. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 186 #16 February 7, 2022 4 hours ago, SkyDekker said: Supposedly evidence based and responsibility for one's own actions.....no? Get specific. If you are going to attribute anything to me, cite it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,121 #17 February 7, 2022 25 minutes ago, winsor said: Get specific. If you are going to attribute anything to me, cite it. So not evidence based and not in favour of personal responsibility then. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 186 #18 February 8, 2022 42 minutes ago, SkyDekker said: So not evidence based and not in favour of personal responsibility then. ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,121 #19 February 8, 2022 12 minutes ago, winsor said: ? Yes indeed, which one is it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,622 #20 February 8, 2022 I find it truly baffling that so few Republican pols have the balls to stand up to Trump and his lies. They all KNOW that he's a lying con-man but very few are willing to say as much. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 186 #21 February 8, 2022 58 minutes ago, kallend said: I find it truly baffling that so few Republican pols have the balls to stand up to Trump and his lies. They all KNOW that he's a lying con-man but very few are willing to say as much. Perhaps they consider it the baseline within the beltway so they focus on other things. Again, I contend that accusing Trump of lying is giving him credit for knowing the difference, or even what constitutes 'truth' by any measure. It seems that he simply blurts out whatever crosses his mind without any filter. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,047 #22 February 8, 2022 4 hours ago, winsor said: Perhaps they consider it the baseline within the beltway so they focus on other things. Again, I contend that accusing Trump of lying is giving him credit for knowing the difference, or even what constitutes 'truth' by any measure. It seems that he simply blurts out whatever crosses his mind without any filter. Hi winsor, On this, we agree. Jerry Baumchen PS) As for John's wondering why they continue to follow/support Trump: IMO it is nothing more than wanting to keep their jobs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewGuy2005 51 #23 February 8, 2022 5 hours ago, kallend said: I find it truly baffling that so few Republican pols have the balls to stand up to Trump and his lies. They all KNOW that he's a lying con-man but very few are willing to say as much. I think we are witnessing what it was like at the beginning of some of the tyrannical regimes of the 20th Century. You say they lack the balls to stand up. I say they know what is happening and don't want to miss out. It looks (for now) like they failed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,047 #24 February 9, 2022 Hi folks, Mitch McConnell takes another swipe at Trump: “It was a violent insurrection for the purpose of trying to prevent the peaceful transfer of power after a legitimately certified election from one administration to the next,” McConnell rebukes RNC for calling Jan. 6 ‘legitimate political discourse,’ censuring Cheney and Kinzinger - oregonlive.com Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewGuy2005 51 #25 February 9, 2022 31 minutes ago, JerryBaumchen said: Hi folks, Mitch McConnell takes another swipe at Trump: “It was a violent insurrection for the purpose of trying to prevent the peaceful transfer of power after a legitimately certified election from one administration to the next,” McConnell rebukes RNC for calling Jan. 6 ‘legitimate political discourse,’ censuring Cheney and Kinzinger - oregonlive.com Jerry Baumchen He's still an asshole. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites