David Attenborough

[brenthutch 383]

Lying douchebag

https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/the-climate-scaremongers-david-attenborough-and-the-great-walrus-deception/

“when he agreed to present the gruesome falling walrus film footage in Our Planet as evidence of climate change, Attenborough compromised his principles to achieve a specific end result. It will go down…as the moment Attenborough fell from grace as a trusted British icon.’”

Edited January 29, 2022 by brenthutch

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What amazes me is how the left seems to think they are immune to "fake news" and such.  They seem to think it's only a right instance where bullshit is taken as gospel.  And of course, they consider themselves way too educated and intelligent to fall for that type of crap.

[GeorgiaDon 340]

Attenborough must be 1,000 years old by now.  I've seen some other statements he has made recently that are easily disproven, which suggests to me that his cognitive abilities are not what they once were.  I suspect he is being used by some groups seeking to take advantage of his reputation and gravitas.

And yes, there is propaganda on the left as well as the right, and intelligent consumers of information are aware of that.  I don't see much of a moral equivalency though, if we are comparing hyperbole regarding the impact of reckless endangerment of the environment to installing a one-party state where only Republicans can be allowed to win elections.

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That wasn’t hyperbole, it was an out and out fabrication.  Not a shred of it was true.  I guess it is just exaggeration if your side does it.

Edited January 29, 2022 by brenthutch

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Upon reflection, they HAD to lie. Telling the truth would have destroyed the “starving polar bears because the lack of sea ice” narrative.

Edited January 29, 2022 by brenthutch

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On 1/29/2022 at 9:27 AM, GeorgiaDon said:

Attenborough must be 1,000 years old by now.  I've seen some other statements he has made recently that are easily disproven, which suggests to me that his cognitive abilities are not what they once were.  I suspect he is being used by some groups seeking to take advantage of his reputation and gravitas.

And yes, there is propaganda on the left as well as the right, and intelligent consumers of information are aware of that.  I don't see much of a moral equivalency though, if we are comparing hyperbole regarding the impact of reckless endangerment of the environment to installing a one-party state where only Republicans can be allowed to win elections.

Couldn’t have said it better myself.

Attenborough is a legend but it’s past time he stopped making shows. My all time favorite was Life in the Undergrowth.

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On 1/29/2022 at 8:57 AM, brenthutch said:

Lying douchebag

https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/the-climate-scaremongers-david-attenborough-and-the-great-walrus-deception/

“when he agreed to present the gruesome falling walrus film footage in Our Planet as evidence of climate change, Attenborough compromised his principles to achieve a specific end result. It will go down…as the moment Attenborough fell from grace as a trusted British icon.’”

Yep. I read the article linked and when I get more signal I'll try to watch the episode again. If it is as  you say, and I don't doubt it, it's an egregious misrepresentation that shouldn't be forgiven for reasons of age or past achievements. 

 

[JoeWeber 2,294]

On 1/29/2022 at 1:16 PM, airdvr said:

What amazes me is how the left seems to think they are immune to "fake news" and such.  They seem to think it's only a right instance where bullshit is taken as gospel.  And of course, they consider themselves way too educated and intelligent to fall for that type of crap.

Nonsense. First, there is no monolithic left; we're not organized any better than a herd of cats. Yes, we fall for crap all the time but it's usually smart crap and we're typically less susceptible to cult crap.

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On 1/29/2022 at 11:16 AM, airdvr said:

What amazes me is how the left seems to think they are immune to "fake news" and such.  They seem to think it's only a right instance where bullshit is taken as gospel.  And of course, they consider themselves way too educated and intelligent to fall for that type of crap.

 

40 minutes ago, JoeWeber said:

Nonsense. First, there is no monolithic left; we're not organized any better than a herd of cats. Yes, we fall for crap all the time but it's usually smart crap and we're typically less susceptible to cult crap.

When you only deal with educated rich White folks for a living. Its hard to imagine that uneducated poor Black people may be democrats. Its all a part of that entitlement thing.

Edited January 31, 2022 by Phil1111

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On 1/29/2022 at 5:35 PM, brenthutch said:

That wasn’t hyperbole, it was an out and out fabrication.  Not a shred of it was true.  I guess it is just exaggeration if your side does it.

Says a woman who presents herself as a polar bear expert but has never formally studied or published about polar bears, who is paid on retainer by the Heartland Institute and other climate change denial think tanks and who has found a lucrative late career niche in writing books that pander to the anti-AGW crowd.

Well I'm convinced.

[jakee 1,254]

On 1/31/2022 at 12:27 PM, JoeWeber said:

If it is as  you say, and I don't doubt it, 

Don't you know him better than that by now?

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6 minutes ago, jakee said:

Says a woman who presents herself as a polar bear expert but has never formally studied or published about polar bears, who is paid on retainer by the Heartland Institute and other climate change denial think tanks and who has found a lucrative late career niche in writing books that pander to the anti-AGW crowd.

Well I'm convinced.

The thread is about the lying POS Attenborough.  If you want to discuss someone other than that, start a new thread. 

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18 minutes ago, brenthutch said:

The thread is about the lying POS Attenborough.  If you want to discuss someone other than that, start a new thread. 

No, this thread is about you using a the claims of a lying, unqualified right wing shill to attack one of the few public figures in the world who has spent his entire career being a good and decent human being.

 

Frankly, the fact that you're trying to insist that criticism of your one and only source has no place in this thread just shows that you know you don't have a leg to stand on. Your attack is not based on truth but on politically motivated spite. That's low even for you.

Edited February 27, 2022 by jakee

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18 minutes ago, jakee said:

No, this thread is about you using a the claims of a lying, unqualified right wing shill to attack one of the few public figures in the world who has spent his entire career being a good and decent human being.

 

Frankly, the fact that you're trying to insist that criticism of your one and only source has no place in this thread just shows that you know you don't have a leg to stand on. Your attack is not based on truth but on politically motivated spite. That's low even for you.

How about the film crew who shot the footage?

“What really made those walruses on Netflix fall to their death from a rocky cliff? Overhead shots in a “behind the scenes” trailer for the “Our Planet” series suggest a drone was used in filming, which could have spooked the walruses into stampeding. The crew also admitted there were polar bears in the area, another possible cause for the deadly stampede. The behind-the-scenes segment also, troublingly, shows how a cameraman on the beach may have potentially discouraged walruses at the top of the cliff from returning the way they had gone up — the safer way down.

And when producers panned their cameras over a scene of carnage below the cliff, they implied all the animals had fallen to their death on that same day. We actually know that most of those animals died days before, when Lanfear’s cameras weren’t around — after being frightened by polar bears.”

https://financialpost.com/opinion/netflix-is-lying-about-those-falling-walruses-its-another-tragedy-porn-climate-hoax

[jakee 1,254]

6 minutes ago, brenthutch said:

How about the film crew who shot the footage?

“What really made those walruses on Netflix fall to their death from a rocky cliff? Overhead shots in a “behind the scenes” trailer for the “Our Planet” series suggest a drone was used in filming, which could have spooked the walruses into stampeding. The crew also admitted there were polar bears in the area, another possible cause for the deadly stampede. The behind-the-scenes segment also, troublingly, shows how a cameraman on the beach may have potentially discouraged walruses at the top of the cliff from returning the way they had gone up — the safer way down.

And when producers panned their cameras over a scene of carnage below the cliff, they implied all the animals had fallen to their death on that same day. We actually know that most of those animals died days before, when Lanfear’s cameras weren’t around — after being frightened by polar bears.”

https://financialpost.com/opinion/netflix-is-lying-about-those-falling-walruses-its-another-tragedy-porn-climate-hoax

Right. "Could have" and "implying" is the damning evidence from your one same source who is paid directly by anti-AGW propaganda outlets.

 

Lying POS indeed.

Edited February 27, 2022 by jakee

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4 hours ago, jakee said:

Your attack is not based on truth but on politically motivated spite. That's low even for you.

No, it's SOP for a right wing troll.

[GeorgiaDon 340]

5 hours ago, brenthutch said:

How about the film crew who shot the footage?

“What really made those walruses on Netflix fall to their death from a rocky cliff? Overhead shots in a “behind the scenes” trailer for the “Our Planet” series suggest a drone was used in filming, which could have spooked the walruses into stampeding. The crew also admitted there were polar bears in the area, another possible cause for the deadly stampede. The behind-the-scenes segment also, troublingly, shows how a cameraman on the beach may have potentially discouraged walruses at the top of the cliff from returning the way they had gone up — the safer way down.

And when producers panned their cameras over a scene of carnage below the cliff, they implied all the animals had fallen to their death on that same day. We actually know that most of those animals died days before, when Lanfear’s cameras weren’t around — after being frightened by polar bears.”

https://financialpost.com/opinion/netflix-is-lying-about-those-falling-walruses-its-another-tragedy-porn-climate-hoax

So after all the insinuation about drones driving the walruses over the cliff, it turns out most of the walruses died days before, when no drones or camera crew were there to disturb them, because they were frightened by polar bears.  Who is it who is actually being dishonest here?  

Edited February 27, 2022 by GeorgiaDon