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24 minutes ago, jakee said:

With regard to the military; we had racism, but it was quickly tempered by everyone around.

I would note that this quote from bigun uses the word "tempered" and does not claim racism has been eliminated. Racism in one sense or another is everywhere. Both of you are correct, each in different ways.

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5 minutes ago, gowlerk said:

I would note that this quote from bigun uses the word "tempered" and does not claim racism has been eliminated. Racism in one sense or another is everywhere. Both of you are correct, each in different ways.

When he says it’s ‘tempered’ to a point where it isn’t a problem he’s not correct, he’s living in a fantasy land.

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30 minutes ago, jakee said:

When he says it’s ‘tempered’ to a point where it isn’t a problem he’s not correct, he’s living in a fantasy land.

Or, he is living a fantasy focused on the best side of viewing the problem as opposed to your fantasy focused on the worst of it. The reality is somewhere in the middle. Racism is still a problem and always will be IMO and even if the whole of humanity somehow merged into one "race" there would still be a host of other isms to divide us into tribes. 

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1 hour ago, gowlerk said:

Or, he is living a fantasy focused on the best side of viewing the problem as opposed to your fantasy focused on the worst of it.

When I quote the US military itself saying the US military has a problem with systemic racism, what kind of fantasy is that? I’m afraid that you’re succumbing to the lure of both-siderism and as a result talking bullshit. 
 

Either that or you’re under the impression I’ve said something I haven’t. I’m only arguing that the US military isn’t uniquely good, I’m absolutely not claiming that it’s uniquely bad.

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40 minutes ago, jakee said:

Either that or you’re under the impression I’ve said something I haven’t. I’m only arguing that the US military isn’t uniquely good, I’m absolutely not claiming that it’s uniquely bad.

Mostly I'm reacting to you telling him that he should be ashamed. Shaming people is almost never helpful. He merely sees things from a different perspective than you are looking at it from. Do the reports that you cite have any positive aspects to them, or only the negative things that you hammer away at?

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24 minutes ago, gowlerk said:

Mostly I'm reacting to you telling him that he should be ashamed. Shaming people is almost never helpful. He merely sees things from a different perspective than you are looking at it from. 

And that perspective leads him to believe things that are not true. Calling it a perspective doesn't give some blanket immunity to challenge.

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Do the reports that you cite have any positive aspects to them, or only the negative things that you hammer away at?

How often do you make sure you say nice things about Trump?

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4 hours ago, jakee said:
On 11/15/2022 at 1:59 PM, BIGUN said:

You don't fuck with those you may be going into battle with. 

Laughably naive and demonstrably false. It’s attitudes like yours that enable ongoing racist and sexist abuse of decent people serving their country. You should be ashamed.

What in the goony goo goo fuck are you talking about? 

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2 hours ago, BIGUN said:

What in the goony goo goo fuck are you talking about? 

Soldiers fuck with those they may be going into battle with.

Christ knows where you got lost with that one, it was pretty fucking simple.

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1 hour ago, jakee said:

Soldiers fuck with those they may be going into battle with.

Christ knows where you got lost with that one, it was pretty fucking simple.

They might not have when Bigun was around. Kind of like how I never experienced any real sexual harassment on the DZ.

But I’ll admit I do know it happens 

Wendy P. 

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1 hour ago, jakee said:

Soldiers fuck with those they may be going into battle with.

Christ knows where you got lost with that one, it was pretty fucking simple.

Then you'd think you'd know I was talking about "fucking" with people in a negative way that causes anger. Not "fucking" around with people as in bantering. Maybe if you read the whole thread - you wouldn't have got lost on that one, it was pretty fucking simple. Shame on you. 

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10 hours ago, BIGUN said:

Then you'd think you'd know I was talking about "fucking" with people in a negative way that causes anger. Not "fucking" around with people as in bantering. Maybe if you read the whole thread - you wouldn't have got lost on that one, it was pretty fucking simple. Shame on you. 

It’s unbelievably obvious that I am talking about that as well. I know you didn’t get lost on that one, so it’s a pretty fucking shameful attempt at a diversion.

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4 minutes ago, jakee said:
5 minutes ago, jakee said:

It’s unbelievably obvious that I am talking about that as well. I know you didn’t get lost on that one, so it’s a pretty fucking shameful attempt at a diversion.

 

What part of "you DON'T fuck with those you may be going into battle with" are you just not getting? Do you sit around in your mum's basement jacking off to porn every time you think you've scored some debate point on here? You're in each thread and got nothing to add but some snarky bullshit to everyone. You can piss off and consider yourself blocked. I don't deal with stupid shit. 

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1 hour ago, BIGUN said:

What part of "you DON'T fuck with those you may be going into battle with" are you just not getting? 

Which part of ‘it’s not fucking true’ are you incapable of understanding? Seriously man, if you disagree we can talk about it but when you’re deliberately not doing that and can only pretend you’re somehow being misunderstood then I don’t know how you can pretend you’re not the one fucking around and trying to score points.

1 hour ago, BIGUN said:

Do you sit around in your mum's basement jacking off to porn every time you think you've scored some debate point on here? 

Hi Wendy :handwave:

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On 1/24/2022 at 6:10 AM, brenthutch said:

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So now 51-49 in the senate but a thin republican majority in the house, They seem a bit divided at the moment as to who should eventually become speaker. We haven’t seen that in a while. At any rate, I say ‘tis but a flesh wound.

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From one of the guys on fivethirtyeight.com:

If Warnock does indeed win tonight, this election cycle will be the first since the direct election of senators began in 1914 in which no incumbent has lost reelection, either in a primary or a general election. And furthermore, this will be the first time since 1934 that any president, Democrat or Republican, has seen all incumbent senators of their party running for reelection win. In 1934, no Democratic incumbents lost reelection despite the president being a Democrat. Since then, every Democratic president has seen at least one Democratic senator lose reelection in each midterm, and every Republican president has seen at least one Republican senator lose per midterm.

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18 minutes ago, JerryBaumchen said:

Hi Robert,

Don't you mean:  She was a DINO.

Jerry Baumchen

She identified as Democrat, that meant that she let party leadership color her votes sometimes. She is more conservative than most Democrats, so that meant that she didn't let them color as many. But she was just as much a Democrat as, say, Arlen Specter and Margaret Chase Smith.

Until ejected, she decides who she identifies with. Kind of like being a Christian, only there's an actual club. Compare her with some of the Dixiecrats, and she's more liberal than lots of them.

Wendy P.

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