NOAA confirms the pause continues

[brenthutch 383]

45 minutes ago, olofscience said:

The prediction I linked (here) not only predicted the trend, but the actual rank in terms of temperature (6th) of 2021 so accurately, so I wouldn't call that falling flat.

 

Where is the existential threat? 

[SkyDekker 1,120]

7 minutes ago, brenthutch said:

I think the scientific term for that is weather. 

Record setting weather for heat and rain, driven by climate change. Just like ever increasing global insurance losses are in large part due to climate change.

[olofscience 420]

27 minutes ago, brenthutch said:

Where is the existential threat? 

Nice strawman. It's nice when you have to make up my arguments to deflect from how yours have fallen flat.

[kallend 1,620]

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[wmw999 2,116]

9 hours ago, kallend said:

No matter how poorly they behave, remember these people spend countless unproductive hours trying to make people mad. They’re not worth your time of day.

Perfectly worded.

Wendy P.

[brenthutch 383]

On 11/17/2021 at 12:18 PM, billvon said:

Yep.  Around here, with the drought we've had basically since 2006, you're not going to find many people willing to listen to climate change deniers.  They are living with the consequences of the warming.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Droughts_in_California
 

when you live in an arid/semi arid area droughts are par for the course, no climate change needed. Even the IPCC doesn’t claim a link to climate change and drought.

Edited November 19, 2021 by brenthutch

[murps2000 86]

5 hours ago, brenthutch said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Droughts_in_California
 

when you live in an arid/semi arid area droughts are par for the course, no climate change needed. Even the IPCC doesn’t claim a link to climate change and drought.

They seem to be getting longer in duration according to that info 

[kallend 1,620]

Leaving this afternoon for a month in the Antarctic, to check on those glaciers for myself.  Hoping not to do a "Shackelton".

[billvon 2,380]

10 hours ago, murps2000 said:

They seem to be getting longer in duration according to that info 

Yep - and drier.

[SkyDekker 1,120]

1 hour ago, kallend said:

Leaving this afternoon for a month in the Antarctic, to check on those glaciers for myself.  Hoping not to do a "Shackelton".

I am very jealous. Enjoy, please share some pictures when you get back!

[ryoder 1,380]

1 hour ago, kallend said:

Leaving this afternoon for a month in the Antarctic, to check on those glaciers for myself.  Hoping not to do a "Shackelton".

Will that be a month on a boat, or will you be spending part of it on land?

~15 years ago, there was a skydiver at Mile High who was on staff at McMurdo Station. He had a lot of interesting tales to tell about life down there.

[wmw999 2,116]

1 hour ago, kallend said:

Leaving this afternoon for a month in the Antarctic, to check on those glaciers for myself.  Hoping not to do a "Shackelton".

Oh my -- we're doing a 2-week trip next month; a month would be way cool.

Wendy P.

[Phil1111 908]

41 minutes ago, SkyDekker said:

I am very jealous. Enjoy, please share some pictures when you get back!

Add me to the jealous crowd.

1 hour ago, kallend said:

Leaving this afternoon for a month in the Antarctic, to check on those glaciers for myself.  Hoping not to do a "Shackelton".

Surely they have e-mail and internet on your ship so we all expect pictures sooner rather than later. I'm sure sled dogs won't be on the "Shackelton" antarctic menu experience.

[billvon 2,380]

2 hours ago, ryoder said:

Will that be a month on a boat, or will you be spending part of it on land?

~15 years ago, there was a skydiver at Mile High who was on staff at McMurdo Station. He had a lot of interesting tales to tell about life down there.

The book "Big Dead Place" is a "local's" take on McMurdo.  Very interesting.

[gowlerk 1,903]

4 hours ago, kallend said:

Leaving this afternoon for a month in the Antarctic, to check on those glaciers for myself.  Hoping not to do a "Shackelton".

Nice, remember though they don’t really welcome tourists there much. 

[brenthutch 383]

The pause continues 

https://www.noaa.gov/news/november-2021-was-earths-4th-warmest-on-record

[ryoder 1,380]

On 11/19/2021 at 1:28 PM, gowlerk said:

Nice, remember though they don’t really welcome tourists there much. 

You don't need to be a tourist to go there. In fact I read yesterday that Australia was having a hard time filling openings:

https://www.coolantarctica.com/Community/find_a_job_in_antarctica.php

[JoeWeber 2,294]

53 minutes ago, ryoder said:

You don't need to be a tourist to go there. In fact I read yesterday that Australia was having a hard time filling openings:

https://www.coolantarctica.com/Community/find_a_job_in_antarctica.php

Work??? Fat chance. No board shorts, no flip flops, no bueno.

[olofscience 420]

2 hours ago, brenthutch said:

https://www.noaa.gov/news/november-2021-was-earths-4th-warmest-on-record

Crap, that's actually hotter than some predictions - in particular the article I posted from December last year predicted it would be 6th due to the La Niña.