ryoder 1,362 #51 December 15, 2021 6 minutes ago, billvon said: Cool that his video opens with the words "wasting all my time." Show of hands: Who thinks he had permission to use "The Cars" song "Just What I Needed" in his show? (And the other song that sounded like Bob Marley.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 189 #52 December 15, 2021 37 minutes ago, ryoder said: 46 minutes ago, billvon said: Cool that his video opens with the words "wasting all my time." Show of hands: Who thinks he had permission to use "The Cars" song "Just What I Needed" in his show? I had a feeling you'd bring this up, lol. Honestly I didn't even make it past that part. He'd likely claim that it's fair use, but I don't think that qualifies - unless maybe he'd argue that it's editorial usage against liberals? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,362 #53 December 15, 2021 15 minutes ago, Coreece said: I had a feeling you'd bring this up, lol. Honestly I didn't even make it past that part. He'd likely claim that it's fair use, but I don't think that qualifies - unless maybe he'd argue that it's editorial usage against liberals? He needs a "synchronization license" unless it is Fair Use, which is defined as: Fair use is the right to copy a portion of a copyrighted work without permission because your use is for a limited purpose, such as for educational use in a classroom or to comment upon, criticize, or parody the work being sampled. Source: https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/permission-sampled-music-sample-clearance-30165.html Now if I was a lawyer representing him, my best defense would be to argue that Alex Jones is a parody of a conservative, and hope the court would buy that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 196 #54 December 15, 2021 Even though I remain a climate sceptic that shit is nutty. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,611 #55 December 15, 2021 49 minutes ago, airdvr said: Even though I remain a climate sceptic that shit is nutty. You don't believe there is such a thing as climate? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,030 #56 December 15, 2021 22 hours ago, kallend said: 30 years ago this glacier on South Georgia reached all the way to the ocean. On that note; this article came out yesterday - https://news.yahoo.com/antarcticas-doomsday-glacier-is-facing-threat-of-imminent-collapse-scientists-warn-220236266.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 196 #57 December 15, 2021 2 hours ago, kallend said: You don't believe there is such a thing as climate? Don't be obtuse. Of course there's climate. :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,355 #58 December 16, 2021 As a sort of study in right wing disinformation consider this headline from Hot Air, a conservative political website:Meteorologist: Biden linking tornados to climate change is "utter insanity" Let's just look at the headline. (The story is even worse.) First off, they did talk to a meteorologist. So that's accurate. Next they talk about Biden. But the meteorologist was not talking about Biden in the article; he was talking about the head of FEMA who said that more tornadoes are "the new normal." So there's lie #1. Next they claim he said "utter insanity." He never said that. (He did say "insanity.") So that's lie #2. They also buttress their claims by saying that TWO meteorologists said something similar. The second "meteorologist" is Chris Martz, who is a . . . . college freshman in meterology. So lie #3. What happens next is that a right wing victim of that misinformation posts "Biden claims that climate change causes tornadoes even though meteorologists say it's 'utter insanity!' " And before a rational argument can even begin, they are starting with three lies. So any discussion first has to wade through that, with the usual "liberal media, attacking the messenger blah blah" misdirection as well. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,030 #59 December 16, 2021 8 hours ago, billvon said: Hot Air, a conservative political website Never heard of it, so I had to look them up. Michelle Malkin is to the right, what Bonanno is to the left. Extreme. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,355 #60 December 16, 2021 6 hours ago, BIGUN said: Michelle Malkin is to the right, what Bonanno is to the left. Extreme. Yep. Unfortunately, what such extremists put out often forms the basis of arguments (for both sides.) "Al Gore said we'd all be dead by now!" Etc etc. So first you have to correct their false assumptions before you can even have a discussion - and many people just don't bother, because they know how such discussions end (and how often fruitless they are.) I've recently had a few discussions on Facebook where people start out with such a false assumption. I'll explain why the statement their argument is based on is false, and at least three times the other person said "well, maybe that original statement was wrong and maybe it's not, but my conclusion is still valid." Can't go much further with such a discussion. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,611 #61 December 16, 2021 On 12/15/2021 at 12:11 PM, airdvr said: Don't be obtuse. Of course there's climate. :) SO what did you mean, exactly? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 896 #62 December 16, 2021 2 hours ago, billvon said: Yep. Unfortunately, what such extremists put out often forms the basis of arguments (for both sides.) "Al Gore said we'd all be dead by now!" Etc etc. So first you have to correct their false assumptions before you can even have a discussion - and many people just don't bother, because they know how such discussions end (and how often fruitless they are.) I've recently had a few discussions on Facebook where people start out with such a false assumption. I'll explain why the statement their argument is based on is false, and at least three times the other person said "well, maybe that original statement was wrong and maybe it's not, but my conclusion is still valid." Can't go much further with such a discussion. Serves you right for arguing with feelings. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,030 #63 December 16, 2021 3 hours ago, billvon said: Can't go much further with such a discussion. I feel you, Bill. Imagine being on the "Right" and having discussions with my own about Gun Control, AGW and vaccines. It's like I've got leprosy, not common sense. Facebook - not for me. Even my conservative friends have told me not to get on there, "Your head would explode." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 383 #64 December 21, 2021 https://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/ looks like Al Gore got it wrong Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,611 #65 December 21, 2021 Meanwhile in Chicago:CHICAGO - We have broken the record for the latest date for the first measurable (.1" or more) snow. Dec. 20 was the previous record. Looks like we won't get any snow for at least another 10 days. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,362 #66 December 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, kallend said: Meanwhile in Chicago:CHICAGO - We have broken the record for the latest date for the first measurable (.1" or more) snow. Dec. 20 was the previous record. Looks like we won't get any snow for at least another 10 days. Denver broke an 87yo record for the same this year: https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/colorado/articles/2021-12-10/denver-sees-first-snowfall-after-breaking-87-year-old-record Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 189 #67 December 21, 2021 On 12/14/2021 at 12:08 PM, kallend said: 30 years ago this glacier on South Georgia reached all the way to the ocean. (A few penguins photo-bombed the picture). Be honest, you were thinking about Brent on your vacation, weren't you? I bet you just couldn't wait to get home to show him! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,611 #68 December 22, 2021 4 hours ago, Coreece said: Be honest, you were thinking about Brent on your vacation, weren't you? I bet you just couldn't wait to get home to show him! As one of only 2 people on my "ignore" list, I really don't think of him any more. But I like penguins (except for the guano). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 383 #69 December 22, 2021 https://www.lonelyplanet.com/articles/visiting-penguins-in-antarctica kind of selfish, isn’t it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 896 #70 December 22, 2021 26 minutes ago, brenthutch said: https://www.lonelyplanet.com/articles/visiting-penguins-in-antarctica kind of selfish, isn’t it? As compared to republican tourism? That would be Donald Trump’s sons, Eric and Donald Jr above. Travel to a "shithole" country and kill whatever you can. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 383 #71 December 22, 2021 21 hours ago, kallend said: Meanwhile in Chicago:CHICAGO - We have broken the record for the latest date for the first measurable (.1" or more) snow. Dec. 20 was the previous record. Looks like we won't get any snow for at least another 10 days. “The average date, says Aigner, citing the Austrian Weather Service, is December 14th. But this year continuous snow cover came 17 days earlier!” Looks like Austria got your snow, then again it could be Mount Kilimanjaro “Constituting the highest mountain in Africa, Mount Kilimanjaro is slowly building up its snow cover, allaying the fears of prominent scientists who had predicted witnessing the eminence lose its famous white hat. The drifts are slowly thickening on the top point of this summit, giving new hopes to Mount Kilimanjaro environmental watchdogs and tourists that the peak may not lose its beautiful snowy cap, as scientific experts have long been warning.“ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stumpy 253 #72 December 22, 2021 Meanwhile, 80,000 mine workers WANT Joe Biden to pass BBB. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 383 #73 December 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Stumpy said: Meanwhile, 80,000 mine workers WANT Joe Biden to pass BBB. No that is just the union bosses. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 896 #74 December 23, 2021 10 hours ago, brenthutch said: ...“Constituting the highest mountain in Africa, Mount Kilimanjaro is slowly building up its snow cover, allaying the fears of prominent scientists who had predicted witnessing the eminence lose its famous white hat. The drifts are slowly thickening on the top point of this summit, giving new hopes to Mount Kilimanjaro environmental watchdogs and tourists that the peak may not lose its beautiful snowy cap, as scientific experts have long been warning.“ Mt. Kilimanjaro is at the Epicenter of Climate Change "In recent years the impact of climate change on the mountain has become increasingly evident. The once-famous snows of Kilimanjaro have been melting at an alarming rate, and the glacier that lined its volcanic crater has shrunken to just a shadow of its former self. In fact, climatologists now say that the glacier will likely be completely gone by 2033, limiting the amount of freshwater available to the local Tanzanians living long Kili’s base." Climate change and Kilimanjaro "since 1989, when there were 3.3 square kilometres, there has been a decline of 33%. At that rate, say the experts, Kili will be completely ice-free within the next decade or two.‘We found that the summit of the ice fields has lowered by at least 17 metres since 1962,’ said Professor Lonnie Thompson of Ohio State University. ‘That’s an average loss of about a half-metre (a foot and a half) in height each year." Troll, troll, troll, your boat gently down the stream. Unfortunately that stream won't be flowing down Kili to the villages below for much longer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,355 #75 December 23, 2021 3 hours ago, Phil1111 said: The once-famous snows of Kilimanjaro have been melting at an alarming rate Yep. From PNAS: ============= The dramatic loss of Kilimanjaro's ice cover has attracted global attention. The three remaining ice fields on the plateau and the slopes are both shrinking laterally and rapidly thinning. Summit ice cover (areal extent) decreased ≈1% per year from 1912 to 1953 and ≈2.5% per year from 1989 to 2007. Of the ice cover present in 1912, 85% has disappeared and 26% of that present in 2000 is now gone. . . . If current climatological conditions are sustained, the ice fields atop Kilimanjaro and on its flanks will likely disappear within several decades. ============= https://www.pnas.org/content/106/47/19770 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites