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the.Legend

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Hi everyone, does anyone have an experience with solutions for voice communications mid-flight?

I was looking for something for group conversation and so far the options checked:

* Group calls - doesn't work because there's no carrier signal at the altitude

* Walkie talkie - doesn't cut because only expensive models are full duplex, without it people can't talk and listen simultaneously

* WiFi hotspot + app called "Talkie" (link to app on Playstore) - works in general and supports Bluetooth headsets, but is unreliable. If for any reason WiFi connection is interrupted it can't dial back automatically

* Motorcycle intercoms -  the option I'm about to try. It can automatically reconnect and is full duplex, but the best group limit I found is 5 people: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4001208979534.html That's probably enough for most of the jumps, but I'm curious if there are any better solutions

 

 

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1 hour ago, BigMick said:

My buddies and I jump with Cardo intercoms. If works fine and it auto reconnects if people get too far. I prefer using in ear headphones over the speakers that it comes with. 

This is the one I have: Cardo PACKTALK Bold - Best Motorcycle Communication System (cardosystems.com)

I see people using these for CRW and flocking as well. The slim is probably the model to get.

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Thanks! Looks like it boils down to intercoms that have Bluetooth Mesh support and there are only very few of them on the market: Sena 30K, Cardo PackTalk, Midland BT Rush, Interphone U-Com 16, UClear Motion 6, and EJEAS Q4

All are pricey :E

Two notable models:

https://www.ejeas.com/product/q4/ is the cheapest - 158$ for a unit which supports up to 4 pilots

and https://www.interphone.com/en-es/Interphone/Intercoms/U-COM-16/p/INTERPHOUCOM16  supports up to 24 pilots (also they claim to be the thinnest mesh intercom on the market)

Both seem to be out of stock

 

[Edit] Clarification: Bluetooth Mesh is the technology that allows dynamic group configuration, meaning 2 things:

1. If flyer gets out of range, other people do not loose connection. In conventional intercoms fliers are connected one-by-one like links in the chain, but in mesh each flier maintains multiple connections simultaneously.

2. Flyer gets connected automatically once in group range again

Edited by the.Legend

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Cardo Packtalk is what everyone I know and myself use. Work very well, biggest complaint is I have the control unit mounted to the outside of my helmet so I usually push a button and switch modes when I pick my head up to look at my canopy opening because it hits the yoke of my rig. More than once I’ve suddenly connected to a radio station and had music start playing. A couple friends have lost units to a riser strike. But it’s really amazing to be able to have a straight up conversation in freefall 

Edited by skydave89

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As said before, I think any modern unit with a variant on 'mesh' will be good.
We have used the Sena 50s units in our team for a year now, without too much fuss. The new 'spider' is seemingly an even better (and slightly cheaper) option from the Sena line-up. But Cardo or Senna, both seems to be ok.

We have the units a bit more towards the back of the helmet, as riser strike seems to kill quite a few units, regardless of brand. So place them wisely thinking about both snag and loss..

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