Woke is a Joke

[JoeWeber 2,571]

5 hours ago, billvon said:

Right.  Because to conservatives, sexual assault is just like a woman seeing a man in a spa.

A classic case of "whataboutism."

Unless you get paid to do it, why do you or anyone engage him? 

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On 8/19/2024 at 7:51 PM, kallend said:

I'm sure many people are as lewd, disgusting and criminal as Trump.  But there's no similarity, he's the only one of them running for President of the USA.

Why don't you use some critical theory with that wine, add some anti-resecentism to the rhetoric and realize all the founding fathers were criminals, my King.

I still have a M-9 magazine,so ya criminal. So sad so sad.

 

 

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On 8/19/2024 at 8:10 PM, billvon said:

Right.  Because to conservatives, sexual assault is just like a woman seeing a man in a spa.

A classic case of "whataboutism."

Ya that's it and the pornography and genderqueer books are an illusion. I suppose the  Mom and kids day at the spa, are for bigots like Riley Gaines.

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11 minutes ago, richravizza said:

Ya that's it and the pornography and genderqueer books are an illusion. I suppose the  Mom and kids day at the spa, are for bigots like Riley Gaines.

Well, books are there; they don’t go assaulting or coercing people, they’re just available. Kind of different from assuming that women desire you simply because you exist. And then pressing the issue.

Wendy P. 

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Harley Davidson seems to be the most recent victim of our Leftist zeitgeist.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/harleydavidson-boycott-woke-diversity-b2598619.html

 

[billvon 2,739]

33 minutes ago, richravizza said:

Why don't you use some critical theory with that wine, add some anti-resecentism to the rhetoric and realize all the founding fathers were criminals, my King.

What's wrong with obeying the law?

[billvon 2,739]

20 minutes ago, richravizza said:

Ya that's it and the pornography and genderqueer books are an illusion.

Nope.  They exist.  And they're STILL not like sexual assault, since you can decide not to read them.  If you don't know the difference . . . . .

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I suppose the  Mom and kids day at the spa, are for bigots like Riley Gaines.

Couldn't parse that, sorry.  Is there any content there, other than "everything I don't like is woke?"

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On 8/13/2024 at 11:51 AM, tkhayes said:

Puberty blockers: What to know about the lifesaving medication for gender diverse kids | CNN - An incredibly small number of kids are using puberty blockers.  A fraction of the number of people that are, for example, killed and injured in gun violence every year.

Not sure how outraged I am expected to be about kids, their doctors, their parents, and the decisions that are made within the confines of these groups, especially when it is none of my fucking business.

Also have no idea how ANY of those decisions affect me, my family, my life, your life, anyone's life, any family.... and so on.... especially when it is no one's fucking business, except those involved.

The title is factually incorrect, copypasta CNN.

Using gun violence in America...  as a yardstick LOL.  That sb your Tell. I offered up the Cass Review,but whatever.

I'd suggest you use a tool, it's called "My Media Bias" you can use /Glen to get a discount.The best part is you can find articles that are omitted by both left and right Industrial media complexes.

As for the perceived outrage, Tavistock isn't disinformation.Law suits from  "Affirmation"are not Deep fakes. to reveiw;

https://gazette.com/news/wex/plastic-surgeons-association-breaks-with-medical-establishment-on-child-gender-transitions/article_8f4af732-387d-5435-a5f4-b8e2877df8ce.html

I found it interesting, the Plastic Surgeons an unusual bedfellow, conventional wisdom would $uggest the opposite.

Wonder what Winsor would make of this, your input is welcome. Seems the very definition of Consensus is in dispute, again. 

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18 minutes ago, richravizza said:

The title is factually incorrect, copypasta CNN.

Using gun violence in America...  as a yardstick LOL.  That sb your Tell. I offered up the Cass Review,but whatever.

I'd suggest you use a tool, it's called "My Media Bias" you can use /Glen to get a discount.The best part is you can find articles that are omitted by both left and right Industrial media complexes.

As for the perceived outrage, Tavistock isn't disinformation.Law suits from  "Affirmation"are not Deep fakes. to reveiw;

https://gazette.com/news/wex/plastic-surgeons-association-breaks-with-medical-establishment-on-child-gender-transitions/article_8f4af732-387d-5435-a5f4-b8e2877df8ce.html

I found it interesting, the Plastic Surgeons an unusual bedfellow, conventional wisdom would $uggest the opposite.

Wonder what Winsor would make of this, your input is welcome. Seems the very definition of Consensus is in dispute, again. 

yes lets talk about media bias.  Your link is a Denver Gazette news article that references a report and makes a load of assumptions about what is in the report. It uses a headline with only a snippet of a quote from the 'report'.  It also links to a Washington Examiner atricle where pediatricians REAFFRIMED their position about providing gender affirming care for minors usffering from gender dysphoria.

Conveniently, I cannot verify anything they quote from the 'report' because their 'in the report' link, it goes to YET ANOTHER, City Journal article.   City Journal touts itself as an urban-policy magazine. 

Their article is written by a PhD so that's good, and I can respect that, but still no link to the 'report' from American Plastic Surgeons, which is at the core of the point you are trying to make.  And the CJ article certainly is not all about that issue, it is only mentioned then the article goes on about all kinds of other procedures and such, not at all focusing on children and transgender.

So I would actually like to see 'the report', not two lines in two separate articles plucked from a report with no actual link to the entire report.

Why do I want to see the actual report?  Because the introduction, conclusions and summaries will be a good place to start about what the report ACTUALLY says, instead of the tidbits presented with headlines as media bias..

But the City Journal report does say:

"I also asked ASPS whether plastic surgeons share responsibility for determining the medical necessity of gender surgeries for minors. ASPS responded that surgeons are “members of the multidisciplinary care team” and as such “have a responsibility to provide comprehensive patient education and maintain a robust and evidence-based informed consent process, so patients and their families can set realistic expectations in the shared decision-making process.” "

And that looks pretty neutral to me, not really taking a stance one way or the other, simply talking about the need for informed decisions.  Obviously the report says far more than the headline that you posted.

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24 minutes ago, tkhayes said:

yes lets talk about media bias.  Your link is a Denver Gazette news article that references a report and makes a load of assumptions about what is in the report. It uses a headline with only a snippet of a quote from the 'report'.  It also links to a Washington Examiner atricle where pediatricians REAFFRIMED their position about providing gender affirming care for minors usffering from gender dysphoria.

Conveniently, I cannot verify anything they quote from the 'report' because their 'in the report' link, it goes to YET ANOTHER, City Journal article.   City Journal touts itself as an urban-policy magazine. 

Their article is written by a PhD so that's good, and I can respect that, but still no link to the 'report' from American Plastic Surgeons, which is at the core of the point you are trying to make.  And the CJ article certainly is not all about that issue, it is only mentioned then the article goes on about all kinds of other procedures and such, not at all focusing on children and transgender.

So I would actually like to see 'the report', not two lines in two separate articles plucked from a report with no actual link to the entire report.

Why do I want to see the actual report?  Because the introduction, conclusions and summaries will be a good place to start about what the report ACTUALLY says, instead of the tidbits presented with headlines as media bias..

But the City Journal report does say:

"I also asked ASPS whether plastic surgeons share responsibility for determining the medical necessity of gender surgeries for minors. ASPS responded that surgeons are “members of the multidisciplinary care team” and as such “have a responsibility to provide comprehensive patient education and maintain a robust and evidence-based informed consent process, so patients and their families can set realistic expectations in the shared decision-making process.” "

And that looks pretty neutral to me, not really taking a stance one way or the other, simply talking about the need for informed decisions.  Obviously the report says far more than the headline that you posted.

Thanks for taking the time TK. I couldn't be bothered myself.

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2 hours ago, richravizza said:

Why don't you use some critical theory with that wine, add some anti-resecentism to the rhetoric and realize all the founding fathers were criminals, my King.

I still have a M-9 magazine,so ya criminal. So sad so sad.

 

 

I shall be charitable and assume that you 've been drinking again.

How does it feel to be called "basement dweller" by your hero?

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On 8/21/2024 at 6:23 PM, tkhayes said:

And that looks pretty neutral to me, not really taking a stance one way or the other, simply talking about the need for informed decisions.  Obviously the report says far more than the headline that you posted.

Thanks, the two sentences were my point,my intentions were to be balanced not bias.Just a recognition that mistakes may have been made in an affirmation model some with devastating consequences.

Add other mental health issues a 70 % growth rate, what could possibly go wrong besides we all know “Medications always have risks and benefits."

On 8/21/2024 at 7:11 PM, kallend said:

I shall be charitable and assume that you 've been drinking again.

How does it feel to be called "basement dweller" by your hero?

 Of course not ..But At least you're consistent, humorously consistently wrong about me. Professor.

Question,If Harris called you entitled how would that make you feel? LOL

As for the heroes you got that wrong too, but i'll give a sophomore three tries to get it right. 

I was saving this for Bill orPhill, but your retort earns the merit. 

Intellectual bankruptcy 

 

 

 

 

 

[billvon 2,739]

17 minutes ago, richravizza said:

 

 

Every conservative's greatest fear!  That they will no longer be the majority - and they will be treated as THEY treated minorities.

Ah, karma.  It's a wonderful thing.

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7 hours ago, richravizza said:

 

Question,If Harris called you entitled how would that make you feel? LOL

 

 

 

 

I would feel that she was correct. 

I WAS entitled.  Not by birth, gender or race so much as by being born in a country where even the kids of working class parents could get a free ride to Cambridge all the way to a PhD provided they met the qualifications.

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8 minutes ago, kallend said:

I would feel that she was correct. 

I WAS entitled.  Not by birth, gender or race so much as by being born in a country where even the kids of working class parents could get a free ride to Cambridge all the way to a PhD provided they met the qualifications.

Hi John,

To the best of my knowledge, you earned everything you have achieved in your schooling.

However, it would be nice if such a system existed here.  

Your gain, our loss.

Jerry Baumchen

[ryoder 1,556]

16 minutes ago, kallend said:

I would feel that she was correct. 

I WAS entitled.  Not by birth, gender or race so much as by being born in a country where even the kids of working class parents could get a free ride to Cambridge all the way to a PhD provided they met the qualifications.

[Gasp!] That's socialism!

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2 hours ago, ryoder said:

[Gasp!] That's socialism!

 

Rather  like roads, bridges, dams, parks. . . .

 

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42 minutes ago, kallend said:

 

Rather  like roads, bridges, dams, parks. . . .

 

Oh, I don't know.  It seems the odd Empire had an assessment of these things.

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On 9/6/2024 at 7:54 PM, winsor said:

Oh, I don't know.  It seems the odd Empire had an assessment of these things.

Just another example of how we have deteriorated over time.

Empires that were ruled by an emperor, kingdoms that were ruled by a king.

Now we have a country, ruled by a ....

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On 9/6/2024 at 10:54 PM, winsor said:

Oh, I don't know.  It seems the odd Empire had an assessment of these things.

And yet Biden and Harris managed to get it done without any Empires, marxism nor communism involved..

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43 minutes ago, tkhayes said:

And yet Biden and Harris managed to get it done without any Empires, marxism nor communism involved..

"Rather  like roads, bridges, dams, parks. . . ."

WTF?

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24 minutes ago, winsor said:

"Rather  like roads, bridges, dams, parks. . . ."

WTF?

Socialism is government control of the means of production and distribution.

Roads, for example, are designed and built under control of the government.  The organizations who build them are either wholly owned by the government, or the government contracts out the work and tells the contractor exactly what to do.

Roads are "distributed" (i.e. made available) also by the government, who require things like government licenses and government registration before you are allowed to use them.

 

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On 9/6/2024 at 4:17 PM, kallend said:

I would feel that she was correct. 

I WAS entitled.  Not by birth, gender or race so much as by being born in a country where even the kids of working class parents could get a free ride to Cambridge all the way to a PhD provided they met the qualifications.

Thanks for the honesty, I admire your Grateful and absent of white guilt or original sin. A hard to find trait in the zeitgeist of our radical postmodern times, fresh.

Ironic Not a word on PHD D'angelo or the RPM ideology she espouses.Here's my take.

The entire woke ideology is seen a solid intellectual superstructure, a Tower of Babylon; but the architecture is simply a massive facade,once you get closer it is nothing more than scaffolding covered in fabric.Kick one leg out,and it crumples."like the outer crust of a pie".

The grifters and opportunist are being exposed one by one.

The PhD...I'm sorry to inform you the title has been dissolved to dirty dish water,by the very same who qualify themselves with it.

A plumber has limited intellect but at least he is honest.

"Am I Racist" Just came out !  I'm sure you don't want to see it but you should.

On 9/6/2024 at 8:43 AM, billvon said:

Every conservative's greatest fear!  That they will no longer be the majority - and they will be treated as THEY treated minorities.

Ah, karma.  It's a wonderful thing.

Your enemy is your brother. I am an individual. My Pronouns are Not THEY.

On 9/9/2024 at 11:19 AM, winsor said:

"Rather  like roads, bridges, dams, parks. . . ."

WTF?

 I hope you get a chance to see "Am I Racist?"  ROFLMAO. Exactly the way I imaging doing an interview.A tell that Some ideas are entitled to never being challenged. LOL

A side note. I've noticed 1A freedom to speak as important as the freedom to listen.

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26 minutes ago, richravizza said:

The entire woke ideology is seen a solid intellectual superstructure,

 

Not sure how 'woke' is an ideology.... even Ron Desantis' attorneys could not define woke when asked in court.  It's just another label created so people can lump large groups of people together so they can hate on them and disagree with them collectively.

How is 'woke' an ideology?  Ideology usually has some pretty specific goals and definitions

i·de·ol·o·gy

/ˌidēˈäləjē,ˌīdēˈäləjē/

noun

noun: ideology; plural noun: ideologies

1. 1.

   a system of ideas and ideals, especially one which forms the basis of economic or political theory and policy.

   "the ideology of democracy"

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43 minutes ago, richravizza said:

The entire woke ideology is seen a solid intellectual superstructure, a Tower of Babylon; but the architecture is simply a massive facade,once you get closer it is nothing more than scaffolding covered in fabric.Kick one leg out,and it crumples."like the outer crust of a pie".

"Woke" means being alert to injustice in society.  If you think there's no injustice in society, congratulations!  You're not woke.

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Your enemy is your brother. I am an individual. My Pronouns are Not THEY.

I don't have any brothers, and I don't have all that many enemies.  Are your pronouns he/him?