Woke is a Joke

[richravizza 26]

1 hour ago, billvon said:

I know.  But that's OK - I write my posts for most, not all, people to understand them.

Please read slowly.it  may help 

Slogan...Army Call/Cry.

 

When it was time to gather members of the clan for a battle, the Scots would shout the sluagh-gairm, which meant "army cry." It is made up of the Scottish Gaelic word sluagh, meaning "army," and ghairm, meaning "call, cry." This came into English as slogorn and later became slogan.Jun 13, 2024

[richravizza 26]

1 hour ago, normiss said:

I just can't do the new "Youtube is news" bullshit.

Showing the conspiracy theorist's conspiracies just hardens the stance.

Does that mean we can talk behind your back, or are you afraid of the insurrectionist. LOL

 

Edited July 2 by richravizza

[SkyDekker 1,278]

8 minutes ago, richravizza said:

Please read slowly.it  may help 

Slogan...Army Call/Cry.

 

When it was time to gather members of the clan for a battle, the Scots would shout the sluagh-gairm, which meant "army cry." It is made up of the Scottish Gaelic word sluagh, meaning "army," and ghairm, meaning "call, cry." This came into English as slogorn and later became slogan.Jun 13, 2024

And a hawk is a bird and Tuah is a boys name in Urdu meaning luck or fortune.

And yet hawk tuah is not a fortunate bird.

[richravizza 26]

5 minutes ago, SkyDekker said:

And a hawk is a bird and Tuah is a boys name in Urdu meaning luck or fortune.

And yet hawk tuah is not a fortunate bird.

Nice, I like the witty humor. Back at ya

Did you get that insight from our Vice president,LOL

On a grade scale I'll give it a C-16.

Edited July 2 by richravizza

[billvon 2,691]

16 minutes ago, richravizza said:

Please read slowly.it  may help 

Slogan...Army Call/Cry.

 

When it was time to gather members of the clan for a battle, the Scots would shout the sluagh-gairm, which meant "army cry." It is made up of the Scottish Gaelic word sluagh, meaning "army," and ghairm, meaning "call, cry." This came into English as slogorn and later became slogan.Jun 13, 2024

Again, you get to have your own opinions, not your own words.   In English it means a short phrase often used for advertising.

And if you think that's what the comment above was about, you are really missing the point.  It was a comparison.

 

[richravizza 26]

On 7/1/2024 at 4:10 AM, wolfriverjoe said:

Does that count as a PA?

Dude you can't say anything PA or hateful that I haven't said in the Mirror. LOL 

Try the Exercise and may help,buttercup.

 

Edited July 2 by richravizza

[JoeWeber 2,535]

Just now, billvon said:

I know.  But that's OK - I write my posts for most, not all, people to understand them.

I shoot for just Phil to understand them and for Ken to be irritated by them. Of course everyone craves a "like" from Skydekker and I'm no different. You might want to lower the bar a few notches. Simpler that way. 

[gowlerk 2,077]

4 minutes ago, JoeWeber said:

I shoot for just Phil to understand them and for Ken to be irritated by them.

I have many far more irritating people in my life. I suppose you could occasionally be considered "Irritating Light".

[JoeWeber 2,535]

Just now, gowlerk said:

I have many far more irritating people in my life. I suppose you could occasionally be considered "Irritating Light".

I can't improve if you don't make suggestions.

[richravizza 26]

57 minutes ago, billvon said:

Again, you get to have your own opinions, not your own words.   In English it means a short phrase often used for advertising.

And if you think that's what the comment above was about, you are really missing the point.  It was a comparison.

 

Poor Winsor,  

(although my guess is he's flighty rich.) Now, I understand. 

OK, Bill it's used in Advertising, see I agree.

[richravizza 26]

On 7/10/2021 at 8:31 AM, winsor said:

Ironically enough, Woke ideology is singularly humorless.  As Gandhi said, "fuck 'em if they can't take a joke."

 Are you familiar Peter Boghossian,Helen Pluckrose,and James Lindsay work?  My teachers Never thought Humor  an intellectual yardstick... lol

From the "conceptual penis" to the "Joke's on You", hilarity. 

I found his views on critical thinking, failing Universities and why debate matters absolutely captivating.It's a near 2 hour interview that I enjoyed every minute of .Here's the short version. Enjoy.

 

[okalb 95]

On 7/1/2024 at 12:48 PM, riggerrob said:

 am from a generation of old soldiers who had it POUNDED into them that Russian Marxists were evil and nasty. In recent years I have not seen anything to dispel that idea.

And yet you back someone who supports Russia over the US and Authoritarianism over democracy. 

[wmw999 2,295]

He's Canadian; it doesn't really matter who he backs.

Wendy P.

[gowlerk 2,077]

On 7/1/2024 at 12:48 PM, riggerrob said:

I challenge "woke" people to explain to me the advantages of their new society.

The advantage would be more opportunity for more people. As more people get acceptance instead of discrimination they will be more able to thrive. The more people who can thrive in any society the better off that society will be. A better question is what advantage to society is there to holding people down?

[billvon 2,691]

On 7/1/2024 at 10:48 AM, riggerrob said:

I challenge "woke" people to explain to me the advantages of their new society.

Sure, that's easy.

Lisa is a great engineer; she's designed some of the powertrains for the Ford EV's.  She's also trans.  Being woke means that I better understand what she's going through.  When she was younger she had to go to Sweden for her surgery; nowadays she could have stayed here and gotten it.  That's a good thing.  She still faces discrimination and has to be very careful who she tells, which is not a good thing.

Annika is a logician, and teaches courses in logic and philosophy at college.  She was raped by her thesis advisor when she was 20, and it shaped the rest of her life.  It was painful to hear about, but I am glad I know that now; to use that term, I am more woke.  I also better understand why women don't come forward when they are raped, especially when they see what happens to other women who do.

My best friend in middle school, Matt, came out as gay about 20 years ago.  Again I'm glad I now know that, and know a little about what he went through while trying to decide to come out. 20 years ago there were serious barriers to people who wanted to come out.

All of these people have touched my life, and I am glad that I am woke enough to understand some of what they went through, although I certainly don't understand everything about them.  Sure, for some people it might be easier to remain ignorant of all of that.  If you don't know anyone who was raped, it's much easier to say "eh, women lie, amiright?" and thus not think worse of someone who has a rape accusation against them.  If you don't know your friend is gay, it's easy to think that nothing you said ever hurt him.  If you don't know the woman you work with is trans, there are lots more off-color jokes you can tell her without worrying that you will offend her.

I prefer understanding to ignorance; I think that makes for a better society overall.  Even if it cuts down on the dirty jokes I can tell.

[normiss 721]

My old truck needed some transmission fluid. I grew up calling it "tranny juice" - thanks dad.

For years there was nothing wrong with those terms. When I went to the auto parts store to get some fluids, I notice a super nice, VERY helpful woman working there now. She's clearly non-binary.

Understanding had me respecting her and being polite. Her customer service and system skills will have me going to her for hard to find parts too.

It's not hard to understand to not use terms that were accepted for the majority of your life. Being considerate will also get you explanations when you don't understand, while being rude and offensive will get a much different response.

Wire snips or clippers and transmission fluid are pretty clear, yet getting banned from Twatter over using MX as an aviation term still perplexes me as it's my understanding it wouldn't be offensive to anyone.

[JerryBaumchen 1,249]

13 hours ago, richravizza said:

 Are you familiar Peter Boghossian,Helen Pluckrose,and James Lindsay work?  My teachers Never thought Humor  an intellectual yardstick... lol

From the "conceptual penis" to the "Joke's on You", hilarity. 

I found his views on critical thinking, failing Universities and why debate matters absolutely captivating.It's a near 2 hour interview that I enjoyed every minute of .Here's the short version. Enjoy.

 

Hi Rich,

Re:  My teachers Never thought Humor  an intellectual yardstick... lol

I think your teachers failed you.

Jerry Baumchen

[JoeWeber 2,535]

1 hour ago, JerryBaumchen said:

Hi Rich,

Re:  My teachers Never thought Humor  an intellectual yardstick... lol

I think your teachers failed you.

Jerry Baumchen

Really? With me it's all they had to work with.

[Phil1111 1,066]

44 minutes ago, JoeWeber said:

Really? With me it's all they had to work with.

Sadly even that wasn't enough for a pass.

[jakee 1,329]

On 7/1/2024 at 6:48 PM, riggerrob said:

I challenge "woke" people to explain to me the advantages of their new society.

Explain the advantage of a society where people attempt to understand the societal challenges faced by other people who aren’t like them instead of ignoring or dismissing them out of hand?

I’m sorry, but I genuinely don’t understand the question.

[riggerrob 598]

5 hours ago, jakee said:

Explain the advantage of a society where people attempt to understand the societal challenges faced by other people who aren’t like them instead of ignoring or dismissing them out of hand?

I’m sorry, but I genuinely don’t understand the question.

Agreed!

Since no-one has taken the time to explain “woke” ideology to me. I remain confused. From a distance, “woke” ideology resembles Marxism. As a self-identifying member of the “lumpen proletariat” I fear the “dictatorship of the proletariat” that is an integral stage of Marxist/Leninist Revolutions.

[billvon 2,691]

10 minutes ago, riggerrob said:

Since no-one has taken the time to explain “woke” ideology to me. I remain confused. 

Woke ideology is the attempt to understand the injustices in society against minorities and marginalized groups - and address them.  Simple.

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From a distance, “woke” ideology resembles Marxism.

Then you are seeing FOX News.  Get closer and talk to the people themselves - gay people, trans people, black people.

[jakee 1,329]

43 minutes ago, riggerrob said:

Since no-one has taken the time to explain “woke” ideology to me. I remain confused. From a distance, “woke” ideology resembles Marxism. As a self-identifying member of the “lumpen proletariat” I fear the “dictatorship of the proletariat” that is an integral stage of Marxist/Leninist Revolutions.

I just did.

I'm afraid I genuinely don't understand why "a society where people attempt to understand the societal challenges faced by other people who aren’t like them instead of ignoring or dismissing them out of hand" resembles Marxism. Perhaps you can explain that to me.

(I'm also unsure why you would assume that anything that hasn't been explained to you is probably Marxism. Why would that be the default?)

[ryoder 1,538]

1 hour ago, riggerrob said:

Agreed!

Since no-one has taken the time to explain “woke” ideology to me. I remain confused. From a distance, “woke” ideology resembles Marxism. As a self-identifying member of the “lumpen proletariat” I fear the “dictatorship of the proletariat” that is an integral stage of Marxist/Leninist Revolutions.

Try Merriam-Webster:

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/woke

[gowlerk 2,077]

1 hour ago, riggerrob said:

From a distance, “woke” ideology resembles Marxism.

In what way? This is a new take on it to me. I don't think even the right wing culture warriors who created the controversy for political reason have been saying that.