wmw999 2,121 #1501 January 23, 2023 In the 70’s, at least, “performance landing” was generally “stood it up on target and looked cool.” Wendy P. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 622 #1502 January 23, 2023 3 hours ago, wmw999 said: In the late 70's, rainbows were very popular as canopy patterns. I don't believe it was a statement in those days... Wendy P. When I bought a VW bug in the early 80's, I just HAD to have the rainbow sticker for the back window. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,623 #1503 January 23, 2023 35 minutes ago, normiss said: When I bought a VW bug in the early 80's, I just HAD to have the rainbow sticker for the back window. Sir Isaac Newton has a lot to answer for. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
headoverheels 291 #1504 January 24, 2023 On 1/20/2023 at 9:13 AM, wolfriverjoe said: It's pretty clear she's totally clueless about what Shakespeare actually wrote.https://secondnexus.com/lavern-spicer-shakespeare-pronouns-factcheck?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR1zvK1TS71npIoIb9-o3XV27_5Y5MlCtZ1Lx8HZLrsveCsGP_fxAneunAw#Echobox=1673999007 From way down the responses in that Twitter thread: https://twitter.com/MichaelA_Kellar/status/1615463969040510976/photo/1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,121 #1505 January 25, 2023 On 1/23/2023 at 9:00 AM, winsor said: I can understand why someone might recoil at the prospect of buying a ticket to a concert and finding themselves being 'educated' in one way or another Have you ever listened to music? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,121 #1506 January 25, 2023 On 1/23/2023 at 9:00 AM, winsor said: The album cover came from before the rainbow was synonymous with 'pride.' True, though ended up with a 6 coloured rainbow flag for what I am guessing is the same reason the pride flag became 6 coloured, difficulty in production of some colours. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,396 #1507 January 25, 2023 10 minutes ago, SkyDekker said: Have you ever listened to music? He's right, you know. I mean, no one wants to hear about how there are four dead in Ohio, or be asked to give peace a chance, or be told that war is good for nothing, or listen to a black woman ask for respect, or listen to a certain New Jersey native talk about what being born in the USA means. No one will ever sell songs about imagining peace or about what's goin on or about being drafted after being arrested for littering. Anyone who thinks people will want to listen to such songs is nuts. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 186 #1508 January 26, 2023 7 hours ago, SkyDekker said: Have you ever listened to music? I bought a Tracy Chapman cassette many years ago and gave it away after hearing the lyrics once. I was thinking more of having to run a gauntlet of booths supporting unrelated causes to get into an REM concert some time back. If the lyrics are overtly distasteful I don't go. If I'm there for tunes, and if it resembles a political convention I'm not up for it. I'm not into anybody's political convention. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 1,910 #1509 January 26, 2023 7 hours ago, billvon said: No one will ever sell songs about imagining peace or about what's goin on or about being drafted after being arrested for littering. It ain't me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,396 #1510 January 28, 2023 On 1/25/2023 at 5:37 PM, gowlerk said: It ain't me. Lord don't they help themselves. But in other news - A&W restaurants just trolled FOX News. They made a "big announcement" that Rudy the Root Beer bear would now wear pants, because pants were so polarizing. "We get it – even a mascot’s lack of pants can be polarizing" a reference to Tucker Carlson's lamentations about how the change in an M&M cartoon character rendered her not sexy enough for him. He would not, he explained, even want to take her out for a drink with the new shoes on. FOX, of course, missed the joke. They ran a piece on Rudy's pants, and on how "the woke police cancel culture has gone ridiculous!" They mentioned how horrified they were on several pieces they did. Two days later, A&W finally told them it was a joke. I have a feeling it won't change anything, though, and the next time that (say) Lisa Simpson gets a slightly longer dress, we will hear all over again how the woke police are absolutely destroying the world and eliminating all the great things that arouse Tucker Carlson. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
richravizza 25 #1511 January 28, 2023 (edited) On 8/8/2022 at 6:09 AM, rifleman said: The anti "woke" folks have been at it a long time and spouting similar themes to today. Clip from a newspaper (1860): A lack of response is because there isn't one needed in this debate,but insinuating the "anti woke" folks here as racists,is a grave assumption,and you know what happens when we assume. i can only speak for myself,and give a shout out to Individualism. I was for affermitve action, and also voted for it's repeal.When I found out about the discrimination going on in College admissions of Asian Americans, being treated like Jews in the 1930's, today. I realized Meritocracy is our only way to that enlightened egalitarian utopia,LOL. try rewatching the Bill Maher video the first minute, again ....Presentism. Humors mechanism is truth. Ever wonder how siblinging living in the exact environment with the exact same opportunities,parents and lifestyles can have completely different life results? Edited January 28, 2023 by richravizza maher Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
richravizza 25 #1512 January 28, 2023 As for the White men of America, south of the mason dixon line, today. Look no further than the combat losses over the last twenty years.https://dcas.dmdc.osd.mil/dcas/assets/Documents/RACE-OMB-WC-2022.pdf Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
richravizza 25 #1513 January 28, 2023 On 1/25/2023 at 5:01 PM, winsor said: I bought a Tracy Chapman cassette many years ago and gave it away after hearing the lyrics once. I was thinking more of having to run a gauntlet of booths supporting unrelated causes to get into an REM concert some time back. If the lyrics are overtly distasteful I don't go. If I'm there for tunes, and if it resembles a political convention I'm not up for it. I'm not into anybody's political convention. I thought of you'd get a kick out of this one " Common sense isn't common when your a Communist."LOL it's clean except for the asshole comment,Dr.Robert Malone makes a guest appearance, funny seeing him with a mask over his head. Serious side I was hoping to get your thoughts on the inevitability of intersectionality,if extended to it's ends.Do you think we finally arrive at the individual. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,396 #1514 January 28, 2023 3 hours ago, richravizza said: A lack of response is because there isn't one needed in this debate,but insinuating the "anti woke" folks here as racists A great many are. Anti-woke folks, by definition, are unaware of - or refuse to acknowlege - injustice in society. There are surely some ignorant people out there that believe that has not been any injustice in our society against any groups of people (blacks, Jews, women, gays etc.) However, most people are indeed aware of the injustices that have been done to those groups (and are still being done) and simply refuse to acknowlege it. The #1 cause of that is bigotry against those groups. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
richravizza 25 #1515 January 28, 2023 (edited) On 1/19/2023 at 5:44 PM, SkyDekker said: yeah they gained like 120% in those anti-woke 12 months starting in March 2020. Now they are back in the ballpark they have been since 2015...clearly all to do with wokeness. 2015 stock price 7 years later, cut the dividend to 0.0% and Mr. Paycheck {Chapec} needs to find a paycheck.Bobby comes back rite where he left it. Bravo. I never insinuated DIS was going BK. The upshot buying Disney at 2015 prices with Igar at the helm. A dividend needs to be reinstated and a market cap double to 2021 highs quite the challenge, but not impossible...clearly though "don't say gay". Edited January 28, 2023 by richravizza Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
richravizza 25 #1516 January 28, 2023 1 hour ago, billvon said: A great many are. Anti-woke folks, by definition, are unaware of - or refuse to acknowlege - injustice in society, by definition. There are surely some ignorant people out there that believe that has not been any injustice in our society against any groups of people (blacks, Jews, women, gays etc.) However, most people are indeed aware of the injustices that have been done to those groups (and are still being done) and simply refuse to acknowlege it. The #1 cause of that is bigotry against those groups. I am clearly aware of and acknowlege injustice,but the answer can not be more injustice. I find Diversity itself a fallacy abstract, as it does not take into account for the differences between individuals within the "diversified" group. Take our conversations for example we couldn't be more diversified. My next door neighbor is a black man, when it comes to our kids education and their Vax status, our family, our country,our religious freedom,our 2A, tax's and a dozen other issues,we agree. You see it's not whats on the outside that makes us different. I noticed that whites were not listed i guess they don't face injustice.I would think foster children,orphans of the state are facing the most injustice of society,regardless of race. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,396 #1517 January 28, 2023 9 hours ago, richravizza said: I am clearly aware of and acknowlege injustice Awesome! But there's an important question here. Now that you are woke - are you a joke? Quote I find Diversity itself a fallacy abstract, as it does not take into account for the differences between individuals within the "diversified" group. Of course it does. There is diversity of thought, of race, of experience, of gender, of approach, of sexual orientation, of physical ability, and of skills. Those are very overlapping groups. Quote I noticed that whites were not listed i guess they don't face injustice. Whites are not listed . . . where? They are certainly not a RACIAL group that has experienced much injustice, since they have been in charge of things in the West for a few thousand years. However, white gay men have faced a huge amount of discrimination, injustice and violence over the past century or so. But that's a group that is identified (and discriminated against) by its sexual orientation, not its race or gender. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,121 #1518 January 28, 2023 On 1/25/2023 at 5:01 PM, winsor said: I was thinking more of having to run a gauntlet of booths supporting unrelated causes to get into an REM concert some time back. Thankfully REM was never really know for much activism, so who really could have known...right.... 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,121 #1519 January 28, 2023 17 hours ago, richravizza said: 2015 stock price 7 years later, cut the dividend to 0.0% and Mr. Paycheck {Chapec} needs to find a paycheck.Bobby comes back rite where he left it. Bravo. I never insinuated DIS was going BK. The upshot buying Disney at 2015 prices with Igar at the helm. A dividend needs to be reinstated and a market cap double to 2021 highs quite the challenge, but not impossible...clearly though "don't say gay". Looks like you saw a meme but really have no clue what is actually happening. Disney stock has been on a relatively same level from 2015 to 2020. Then in 2020 the price went up by 120%. Now it is down what it went up and back to a historically appropriate level. Wonder what happened in early part of 2020 that would have skyrocketed a stock price for a product that brought entertainment directly into a home? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 186 #1520 January 30, 2023 Transgender men => wimmen have an unfair advantage in sporting events. There's no way a natural-born woman can keep up with someone who was born male. This is proof positive: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,048 #1521 January 30, 2023 1 hour ago, winsor said: Transgender men => wimmen have an unfair advantage in sporting events. There's no way a natural-born woman can keep up with someone who was born male. This is proof positive: Hi winsor, Re: There's no way a natural-born woman can keep up with someone who was born male. Battle of the Sexes (tennis) - Wikipedia Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 186 #1522 January 30, 2023 1 hour ago, JerryBaumchen said: Hi winsor, Re: There's no way a natural-born woman can keep up with someone who was born male. Battle of the Sexes (tennis) - Wikipedia Jerry Baumchen You didn't watch the video. Whoosh. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,048 #1523 January 31, 2023 1 hour ago, winsor said: You didn't watch the video. Whoosh. Hi winsor, I do NOT come here to be entertained. I was responding to your obviously wrong, blanket statement: There's no way a natural-born woman can keep up with someone who was born male. Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 186 #1524 January 31, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, JerryBaumchen said: Hi winsor, I do NOT come here to be entertained. I was responding to your obviously wrong, blanket statement: There's no way a natural-born woman can keep up with someone who was born male. Jerry Baumchen Okay, so you're not amused. Mick Jagger's comment regarding being able to take a joke comes to mind. Make that Bill Murray: "Lighten up, Francis." Edited January 31, 2023 by winsor Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,298 #1525 January 31, 2023 2 hours ago, JerryBaumchen said: Hi winsor, I do NOT come here to be entertained. I was responding to your obviously wrong, blanket statement: There's no way a natural-born woman can keep up with someone who was born male. Jerry Baumchen Jerry, you are right in an absolutest sense but as a general proposition born males will have an advantage. The problem isn't that but rather the framework of sport being a decider of societal advantage. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites