kallend 1,623 #26 June 4, 2021 11 hours ago, rcdrury said: I swore with my life to defend it; Maybe you should read it then, and try to understand it. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,048 #27 June 4, 2021 1 hour ago, kallend said: Maybe you should read it then, and try to understand it. Hi John, As you posted: Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel. Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sfzombie13 307 #28 June 5, 2021 On 6/4/2021 at 5:24 AM, rcdrury said: You've made a great case for disallowing chaplains, but as long as they exist, their job descriptions include sectarian qualifications. If the existence of chaplains does not violate the First Amendment, having parameters consistent with their function doesn't either. your argument has some basis in history, but as we all know, only the constitution is allowed to have the words set in the time period and not allowed to be adjusted to match the real world and changing language. chaplain was originally christian, but has since come to include any religion. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaybird18c 4 #29 June 8, 2021 Is this racist or discriminatory? https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.chicagotribune.com/politics/ct-lori-lightfoot-interviews-journalists-of-color-20210519-o6g2ksmaxjditmdainrfvrviia-story.html%3foutputType=amp Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 1,911 #30 June 8, 2021 4 minutes ago, jaybird18c said: Is this racist or discriminatory? https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.chicagotribune.com/politics/ct-lori-lightfoot-interviews-journalists-of-color-20210519-o6g2ksmaxjditmdainrfvrviia-story.html%3foutputType=amp Clearly it is. And it is a political stunt. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaybird18c 4 #31 June 8, 2021 5 minutes ago, gowlerk said: Clearly it is. And it is a political stunt. How is it a political stunt. The fact that she’s been called out on her racism? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
olofscience 420 #32 June 8, 2021 On 6/4/2021 at 5:50 PM, JerryBaumchen said: Hi John, As you posted: Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel. Jerry Baumchen Patriotism is basically: being proud of things you didn't do which were done by people you've never met by people who don't know you being proud of being born in a particular geographical region which, you also had no control over (who controls where they're born?) If you haven't achieved anything you can be proud of, there's always patriotism and nationalism to run to. It's as comforting as religion is. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 1,911 #33 June 8, 2021 31 minutes ago, jaybird18c said: How is it a political stunt. The fact that she’s been called out on her racism? Just in case you truly can not see how it is a political stunt I will explain just this once. It is a stunt because she knew in advance that she would be called out. She did it on purpose because she wanted to draw attention and then focus that attention onto the lack of diversity in the press corps. But you knew that already, right? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,254 #34 June 8, 2021 51 minutes ago, jaybird18c said: Is this racist or discriminatory? Maybe you can discuss that in a new thread, since it has nothing to do with the subject of this one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 1,911 #35 June 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, jakee said: Maybe you can discuss that in a new thread, since it has nothing to do with the subject of this one. On the other hand, thread drift is both common and accepted here unless the topic heading clearly states "on topic". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,254 #36 June 8, 2021 1 hour ago, gowlerk said: On the other hand, thread drift is both common and accepted here unless the topic heading clearly states "on topic". Blatant 'whataboutism' isn't thread drift, it's intentional thread derailment. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 1,911 #37 June 8, 2021 14 minutes ago, jakee said: Blatant 'whataboutism' isn't thread drift, it's intentional thread derailment. Then you could have called him out for that I suppose. I haven't decided how many times I will reply to you before I let you get the last word in yet. But in any case, I decided to reply to him so it is now under discussion. If you don't like it, too bad. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,254 #38 June 8, 2021 2 hours ago, gowlerk said: Then you could have called him out for that I suppose. I haven't decided how many times I will reply to you before I let you get the last word in yet. I find whenever you visit a new DZ you can always tell the people who love gossiping and backbiting the most because they're the first people you'll hear moaning about 'all the drama'. Same with the last word online. The only people who care about having it are the ones who keep complaining that other people want it. Quote But in any case, I decided to reply to him so it is now under discussion. If you don't like it, too bad. So why did you start this conversation? are you just looking for an excuse to have an irrelevant argument that you can bitch about not getting the last word in? Whatever floats your boat, I guess. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 1,911 #39 June 8, 2021 21 minutes ago, jakee said: I find whenever you visit a new DZ you can always tell the people who love gossiping and backbiting the most because they're the first people you'll hear moaning about 'all the drama'. Same with the last word online. The only people who care about having it are the ones who keep complaining that other people want it. So why did you start this conversation? are you just looking for an excuse to have an irrelevant argument that you can bitch about not getting the last word in? Whatever floats your boat, I guess. Word. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,340 #40 June 9, 2021 17 hours ago, jakee said: Maybe you can discuss that in a new thread, since it has nothing to do with the subject of this one. 16 hours ago, jakee said: Blatant 'whataboutism' isn't thread drift, it's intentional thread derailment. Pfft. That's what he does. Christianity is being criticized, so he comes in here and 'throws poo around' to distract & derail the conversation. He also repeatedly and consistently ignores questions about his claims, responding with irrelevant questions rather than answers. I'm still waiting for him to provide that 'preponderance of evidence' that God exists. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stumpy 256 #41 June 10, 2021 On 6/9/2021 at 11:23 AM, wolfriverjoe said: I'm still waiting for him to provide that 'preponderance of evidence' that God exists. Well duh! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites