ryoder 1,380 #51 May 13, 2021 35 minutes ago, sfzombie13 said: idiot burns down his car while smoking with a horde of gas in containers...florida man strikes again. So he survived. Damn. A swing and a miss by Darwin. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,380 #52 May 13, 2021 31 minutes ago, JoeWeber said: Have you sorted out how many were likely Trump voters based on locations? Inability to understand the consequences of stupid actions? I'm betting there is a huge overlap between those sets! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 908 #53 May 13, 2021 Perhaps Ron and Brent have a point about SHTF type stuff. Here was a short term blockage of one pipeline and look at what happened. Imagine all the pipelines shut down. Then all the toilet paper mills shut down. It would be anarchy in a day. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,340 #54 May 13, 2021 50 minutes ago, sfzombie13 said: idiot burns down his car while smoking with a horde of gas in containers...florida man strikes again. Not seeing a cause. Gotta love the last line. There weren't going to be any shortages there because they don't get their gas from that pipeline. People are absolute fucking idiots. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,380 #55 May 13, 2021 According to this, the company payed $5M ransom, but the provided decrypting utility was so slow, they just scrapped it and restored from backups: Ransomware victim Colonial Pipeline paid $5m to get oil pumping again, restored from backups anyway – report Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yoink 321 #56 May 14, 2021 I can actually believe paying to decrypt the files, double checking to make sure you’ve got any critical data and then restoring from known good backups. Because a criminal hacking organization would 100% be on the level about giving you back access. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,046 #57 May 14, 2021 9 hours ago, ryoder said: You've got to remember that these are just simple farmers. These are people of the land. The common clay of the new West. You know... morons. Hi Robert, You've got to remember that these are just simple farmers. These are people of the land. The common clay of the new West. You know... morons. => 74 million who voted for Trump Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,380 #58 May 14, 2021 Darwin narrowly misses catching another one: Woman Bursts Into Flames After Rolling Car Full Of Hoarded Gas Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BartsDaddy 4 #59 May 15, 2021 On 5/12/2021 at 7:21 PM, sfzombie13 said: said that they were entrenched firmly into the dc's and that by the time they knew about them, they had already established persistence and the backups would be tainted and bring them back in. normal when the attackers have been inside the network for a while undetected. these guys have been at it for a while. found this article on it. and just read an article that said the pipeline is starting back up now, so all the panic buyers can stay away from the gas station for a few days. Our company was hit with ransomware and yes backups were nearly useless. We were able to get some files of information out to help production but could no way get the system back up and running. We were lucky that we were planing a new system all ready. We replaced the whole system with the one they were developing about a year early and strugled. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
okalb 78 #60 May 16, 2021 18 hours ago, BartsDaddy said: Our company was hit with ransomware and yes backups were nearly useless. We were able to get some files of information out to help production but could no way get the system back up and running. We were lucky that we were planing a new system all ready. We replaced the whole system with the one they were developing about a year early and strugled. If your backups were useless, that is likely not the fault of the ransomware, but the fault of the backup system and design. That is why I was curious why backups were useless in the case of the pipeline ransomware attack. As it turns out, their backups weren't useless and they ended up bringing the systems back online from the backups. They paid the ransom, but restoring from backup turned out to be faster than decrypting using the ransom decryption keys. A properly designed, modern, up-to-date backup system can recover from a ransomware attack in an incredibly short timeframe and be back up and running fast. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,294 #61 May 16, 2021 12 minutes ago, okalb said: If your backups were useless, that is likely not the fault of the ransomware, but the fault of the backup system and design. That is why I was curious why backups were useless in the case of the pipeline ransomware attack. As it turns out, their backups weren't useless and they ended up bringing the systems back online from the backups. They paid the ransom, but restoring from backup turned out to be faster than decrypting using the ransom decryption keys. A properly designed, modern, up-to-date backup system can recover from a ransomware attack in an incredibly short timeframe and be back up and running fast. That's all fine and good but when are we going to start sending our special op's folks over to cut the finger tips off of theses assholes? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sfzombie13 307 #62 May 16, 2021 12 minutes ago, okalb said: If your backups were useless, that is likely not the fault of the ransomware, but the fault of the backup system and design. That is why I was curious why backups were useless in the case of the pipeline ransomware attack. As it turns out, their backups weren't useless and they ended up bringing the systems back online from the backups. They paid the ransom, but restoring from backup turned out to be faster than decrypting using the ransom decryption keys. A properly designed, modern, up-to-date backup system can recover from a ransomware attack in an incredibly short timeframe and be back up and running fast. the reason i was told they were most likely useless in this situation in the first place was how deep they were embedded in the systems. nobody knows as of now, and it looks like it was from the solarwinds breach. that means the backups, while great for bringing the system back online, most likely still had the backdoor access that allowed the breach in the first place. my misunderstanding of what she said, and may still prove to be a problem sometime in the future. i've worked on several pipelines and at least one of them had indicators of someone in the system that i saw and reported. another had multiple security flaws that went unfixed even now, almost five years after i reported them. 2 minutes ago, JoeWeber said: That's all fine and good but when are we going to start sending our special op's folks over to cut the finger tips off of theses assholes? that is the absolute worst thing that could be done in this, or any other, case. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 908 #63 May 16, 2021 7 minutes ago, JoeWeber said: That's all fine and good but when are we going to start sending our special op's folks over to cut the finger tips off of theses assholes? President Putin doesn't need his fingertips to press the button. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 1,902 #64 May 16, 2021 8 minutes ago, JoeWeber said: That's all fine and good but when are we going to start sending our special op's folks over to cut the finger tips off of theses assholes? If they're in Russia, never. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,380 #65 June 4, 2021 Oh, good gawd; Leave it to the clueless in corporate management to make it so easy for hackers, that they don't even need to earn the title "hackers": Hackers Breached Colonial Pipeline Using Compromised Password Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,380 #66 June 7, 2021 First on CNN: US recovers millions in cryptocurrency paid to Colonial Pipeline ransomware hackers Sounds good. Now I'm really curious how they pulled it off. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,116 #67 June 7, 2021 1 hour ago, ryoder said: First on CNN: US recovers millions in cryptocurrency paid to Colonial Pipeline ransomware hackers Sounds good. Now I'm really curious how they pulled it off. And, if there is anything either legally or softwarily a problem, what'll it do to the accumulated cryptocurrency out there? Wendy P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,380 #68 June 7, 2021 5 minutes ago, wmw999 said: And, if there is anything either legally or softwarily a problem, what'll it do to the accumulated cryptocurrency out there? Wendy P. I would assume they just transferred it to a govt-owned account, so it would have no effect on anyone but the crooks who lost it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 1,902 #69 June 7, 2021 1 hour ago, ryoder said: I would assume they just transferred it to a govt-owned account, so it would have no effect on anyone but the crooks who lost it. If they can do that it means one of the key advantages of crypto has been lost. If that is so its value will take a big hit. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,116 #70 June 7, 2021 Yep, that's kind of what I meant. Wendy P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,380 #71 June 7, 2021 5 minutes ago, gowlerk said: If they can do that it means one of the key advantages of crypto has been lost. If that is so its value will take a big hit. The history of crypto is littered with stories of fraud and crypto-exchanges disappearing and leaving the suck....errr...customers with nothing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 1,902 #72 June 7, 2021 Just now, ryoder said: The history of crypto is littered with stories of fraud and crypto-exchanges disappearing and leaving the suck....errr...customers with nothing. Yes, there is an unknown amount of Bitcoin, and I suppose others that may as well be in a hole in the bottom of the sea because the keys are irrecoverably lost. But that is a different matter from having the FBI able to track the transactions. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,380 #73 June 7, 2021 4 minutes ago, gowlerk said: Yes, there is an unknown amount of Bitcoin, and I suppose others that may as well be in a hole in the bottom of the sea because the keys are irrecoverably lost. But that is a different matter from having the FBI able to track the transactions. You know it is a public ledger, right? Once you can connect someone's identity with their crypto address, it's all there for anyone to look at. Example for BTC address 1BrasiLb2KMbdtuhb1chAVnS2FvcNGfV9J: https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/1BrasiLb2KMbdtuhb1chAVnS2FvcNGfV9J Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 1,902 #74 June 7, 2021 Actually, it is vitally important that governments get a handle on and stop the anonymity of crypto. The difficulty of collecting ransoms is the main reason kidnapping is no longer common is first world countries. If Russian or any other criminals can get away with these payments, so can others and we will soon be seeing the children of rich people needing heavy security. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 1,902 #75 June 7, 2021 3 minutes ago, ryoder said: You know it is a public ledger, right? Once you can connect someone's identity with their crypto address, it's all there for anyone to look at. Example for BTC address 1BrasiLb2KMbdtuhb1chAVnS2FvcNGfV9J: https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/1BrasiLb2KMbdtuhb1chAVnS2FvcNGfV9J No, my knowledge is incomplete. Are you saying that each and every transaction can be followed if the starting point is known? Is each coin numbered individually? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites