I agree with Obama

[brenthutch 383]

I agree with Obama’s chief scientist at the DoE.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/how-a-physicist-became-a-climate-truth-teller-11618597216?mod=opinion_lead_pos5

”For the record, Mr. Koonin agrees that the world has warmed by 1 degree Celsius since 1900 and will warm by another degree this century, placing him near the middle of the consensus. Neither he nor most economic studies have seen anything in the offing that would justify the rapid and wholesale abandoning of fossil fuels, even if China, India, Brazil, Indonesia and others could be dissuaded from pursuing prosperity.

He’s a fan of advanced nuclear power eventually to provide carbon free base-load power. He sees a bright future for electric passenger vehicles. “The main reason isn’t emissions. They’re just shifted to the power grid, and transportation anyway is only about 15% of global greenhouse-gas emissions. There are other advantages: Local pollution is much less and noise pollution is less. You’re sitting in a traffic jam and all of these six- or four-cylinder engines are throbbing up and down burning fuel and just doing no good at all.”

But these are changes it makes no economic sense to force. Let technology and markets work at their own pace. The climate might continue to change, at a pace that’s hard to perceive, but societies will adapt. “As a species, we’re very good at adapting.”

[jakee 1,254]

You agree that climate change is real, and EVs are good things which will be commercially successful?

[brenthutch 383]

2 hours ago, jakee said:

You agree that climate change is real, and EVs are good things which will be commercially successful?

Yes Climate change is real, it always has been. (Do ice ages ring a bell?) There is nothing we can or should do about it other than adapt. EVs are just things, the market should decide how successful they are not the government.

Edited April 19, 2021 by brenthutch

[olofscience 420]

14 hours ago, jakee said:

You agree that climate change is real, and EVs are good things which will be commercially successful?

This was brent's go-to thread when he lost the argument in the other ones, so you didn't really need to reply.

He's saying that now but he'll be back next month with some cherry-picked and wildly misinterpreted data saying the climate isn't changing, as if he's forgotten what he said just before. It's sad to watch...

[kallend 1,619]

When you feed trolls, trolls are what you get.  Rather like squirrels or pigeons.

[brenthutch 383]

2 hours ago, kallend said:

When you feed trolls, trolls are what you get.  Rather like squirrels or pigeons.

I reeled you in like a hungry carp.

[gowlerk 1,901]

3 hours ago, kallend said:

When you feed trolls, trolls are what you get.  Rather like squirrels or pigeons.

More like trash pandas in this case.