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nigel99

Pagan influences in the USA

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I’m pagan and so fairly interested in Wicca and pagan symbols.

While the USA claims to be Christian I find it interesting that it is full of pagan symbols. From the money with the 3rd eye, the flag is full of Pentagrams (Pentacle is generally a pentagram with a circle around it). The freedom statue on the capital building has a crown of Pentagrams. It is interesting the amount of pagan symbolism and lack of Christian symbols.

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12 minutes ago, nigel99 said:

I’m pagan and so fairly interested in Wicca and pagan symbols.

While the USA claims to be Christian I find it interesting that it is full of pagan symbols. From the money with the 3rd eye, the flag is full of Pentagrams (Pentacle is generally a pentagram with a circle around it). The freedom statue on the capital building has a crown of Pentagrams. It is interesting the amount of pagan symbolism and lack of Christian symbols.

I think it has something to do with conspiracies and Masons.

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8 hours ago, BIGUN said:

Easter EGGS!! We have Easter EGGS!!! :`D

A few days ago I was working on a crossword puzzle that had as a clue "an animal that only lays eggs once a year." Took me awhile to figure out it was the Easter bunny xD

Wendy P.

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Eostre is the Germanic goddess of dawn who is celebrated during the Spring Equinox. On the old Germanic calendar, the equivalent month to April was called “Ōstarmānod” – or Easter-month. As a holiday, Easter predates Christianity and was originally the name for Spring Equinox celebrations.

Days of the week are named for pagan gods in languages with germanic origin, and after Roman gods in the romance languages.

A seven day cycle apparently originated in Sumeria or Babylon and picked up by Judaism during the Babylonian exile..

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53 minutes ago, kallend said:

A seven day cycle apparently originated in Sumeria or Babylon and picked up by Judaism during the Babylonian exile..

I have often wondered and researched why a seven day week evolved. I seems so arbitrary.

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Nigel,

In response to the original question, I have one word:

Halloween

^.^

(note: I had a coworker decades ago who unapologetically replied, when asked what his kids were wearing as costumes that year, that his family doesn't celebrate Halloween traditions.  He was what we would now consider evangelical Christian, and had done his homework)

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6 hours ago, TriGirl said:

Nigel,

In response to the original question, I have one word:

Halloween

^.^

(note: I had a coworker decades ago who unapologetically replied, when asked what his kids were wearing as costumes that year, that his family doesn't celebrate Halloween traditions.  He was what we would now consider evangelical Christian, and had done his homework)

I know.

I laughed this year on St Patrick’s day when Pagans I know went off their heads about how it celebrates the persecution of witches.

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1 hour ago, wolfriverjoe said:

Oh please.

Halloween is totally Christian.

It's the day before 'All Saints Day' (which technically makes it "Catholic", not "Christian").

It's "All Hallow's Eve".

another one stolen by catholicism and bastardized so as to bring converts over.  ever heard of samhain?  that's where it began.

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14 hours ago, nigel99 said:

I know.

I laughed this year on St Patrick’s day when Pagans I know went off their heads about how it celebrates the persecution of witches.

Well, I sort of agree.  The name day is one thing, but the description of Patrick as having "chased all the snakes out of Ireland" is a sanitized version of his (reported) exploits of forcibly converting Pagans -- Inquisition-style.

I will celebrate/appreciate Ireland.  I will not celebrate that.

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21 hours ago, TriGirl said:

Well, I sort of agree.  The name day is one thing, but the description of Patrick as having "chased all the snakes out of Ireland" is a sanitized version of his (reported) exploits of forcibly converting Pagans -- Inquisition-style.

I will celebrate/appreciate Ireland.  I will not celebrate that.

I don't disagree with their views. I just found the completely different viewpoint amusing and also how strongly they felt about it. Especially that almost everyone celebrating that day is using it as an excuse to party and have a few drinks. 

I will admit that prior to the people getting really upset about it, I hadn't ever read up the story behind it. I've never dressed up or partied for St Patricks day, guess next year I will go to something as a snake :)

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Samhain, Halloween, Thanksgiving, Dia de Los Muertos (Day of the Dead) and harvest celebrations are pretty much the same thing.

Notice that Canadians celebrate Thanksgiving in October - a month before Americans - because we have a shorter growing season. The first frost often arrives in October.

All Hallo's Eve and Dios de Los Muertos are linked as well. Halloween is the day when spirits get loose, while Dia de Los Muertos is the day that Mexicans visit the graves of their dear departed ancestors and raise a toast to grandma.

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On 4/4/2021 at 1:48 PM, riggerrob said:

Samhain, Halloween, Thanksgiving, Dia de Los Muertos (Day of the Dead) and harvest celebrations are pretty much the same thing.

Notice that Canadians celebrate Thanksgiving in October - a month before Americans - because we have a shorter growing season. The first frost often arrives in October.

All Hallo's Eve and Dios de Los Muertos are linked as well. Halloween is the day when spirits get loose, while Dia de Los Muertos is the day that Mexicans visit the graves of their dear departed ancestors and raise a toast to grandma.

In Japan people take picnic lunches out to the family tombs to commune with their ancestors at times of the year the veil is thought to be thinnest -- similar thought process as with Samhain, but observed very differently.

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