More sacrifices to the 2nd Amendment

[normiss 532]

4 minutes ago, BIGUN said:

I was Nuclear Operations & Intel before reenlisting SF. On our Nuke bases, we could not take our own weapons inside. The MP's guarded the primary, secondary and tertiary gates (and the entire fence line/towers) as part of their physical security requirement. We drew weapons once inside and had to return them at the end of duty. 

Yep!

[riggerrob 557]

17 hours ago, wolfriverjoe said:

... I don't like all the deaths, but I like the idea of intentionally filing frivolous lawsuits in order to bankrupt large companies even less.

 

[riggerrob 557]

22 hours ago, SkyDekker said:

Norinco?

Yes.

Tactically it was the same as a Tavor.

How Norinco managed to import them to Canada un der last-week's laws is a mystery to me.

Mind you, I sold it before it was mentioned in the next proposed set of Canadian gun laws.

Canadian gun laws are far from perfect, but they are still better than American gun laws. As long as I stay out of the recreational pharmaceuticals business, I have a miniscule chance of being shot in Canada.

Just the other day, I drove my nephew through "Hastings and Main" just to show him the hazards of recreational pharmaceuticals.

[riggerrob 557]

"Ammo sexual!"

"Ammo sexual!"

Last weekend, an American liberal called me an "ammo sexual" to my face!

Hah!

Hah!

We agreed on most issues even if she had an unrealistic impression of the size of wound an AR-15 could inflict. So I tried to explain to her why Canadian gun laws are better - not perfect, just better - but when I tried to explain to her the difference between an AR-15 and an AR-10 "I DON'T WANT TO KNOW! I DON'T WANT TO KNOW!"

Which goes to show you that there are close-minded people on both sides of the debate.

[JoeWeber 2,065]

And if a tear has to fall, well it's all in the game.

All in the wonderful game, of guns.....

"A fight over food turned violent in Kentucky this week when police say a man opened fire on his roommate in retaliation for him eating the last Hot Pocket, reports local news station ABC 12.

According to the Louisville Metro Police Department, 64-year-old Clifton Williams became irate when he learned that his roommate, who has not been identified, cooked up and devoured the final mini-sandwich that had been stored in their freezer.

Police say that Williams initially began "throwing tiles" at the roommate, which prompted the roommate to attempt to flee the area.

Williams grabbed a firearm and shot his roommate in the buttocks as he was trying to leave, the report said."

[JerryBaumchen 972]

4 hours ago, BIGUN said:

They are issued. Just like in the military. Officers must sign for them. They are accountable not only for their securing the weapons in a proper manner, just like in the military; they are accountable for every discharge. And, if they do not do these things, just like in the military - they can be subject to an Article 15 or court [martial] (civilian style).

And, if every one was required to register their guns, ensure they were properly stored, and ammunition were to be signed for by lot number (just like in the military), and the signing party held responsible for their expenditure; then law enforcement would have a much better path to resolving crimes committed with the use of guns.  

A by-product of this would be people maintaining better control of their weapons and ammunition. 

Finally, if the police were to come across a weapon that is unregistered for any reason - it gets confiscated and smelted. Over time, the number of unregistered weapons would diminish. If we had started this after Columbine, some 350,000 children's lives would not have been impacted by gunfire and 379 school shootings would have been lessened.  

A by-product of this would be the ability to take a walk and not fear getting shot.  

But, of course as long as the other 24 states pass constitutional carry, then everyone can walk around like John Fucking Wayne and carry a gun on their hip - making the world a much safer place. /s

Hi Keith,

As I have posted before, you bring more to this discussion than any other poster.

THANK YOU,

Jerry Baumchen

PS)  Oh, I agree 100%.  Also, doing nothing is not the solution.

 

[normiss 532]

1 hour ago, riggerrob said:

"Ammo sexual!"

"Ammo sexual!"

Last weekend, an American liberal called me an "ammo sexual" to my face!

Hah!

Hah!

We agreed on most issues even if she had an unrealistic impression of the size of wound an AR-15 could inflict. So I tried to explain to her why Canadian gun laws are better - not perfect, just better - but when I tried to explain to her the difference between an AR-15 and an AR-10 "I DON'T WANT TO KNOW! I DON'T WANT TO KNOW!"

Which goes to show you that there are close-minded people on both sides of the debate.

ER doctors are trying to get the information and a few images out about the combat injuries the AR platform DOES to small children.

There is no reason everyday citizens should have military weapons.

[piisfish 133]

If you want to know what can be done, read the wiki article about the shootings that happened in Serbia 2 weeks ago (specifically the “aftermath “ section)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belgrade_school_shooting
 

 

[JerryBaumchen 972]

Hi folks,

Maybe, just maybe:  Uvalde anniversary poll finds support for enacting gun restrictions : NPR

From the article:  That's the highest in 10 years and includes 4 in 10 gun owners.

Jerry Baumchen

[kallend 1,499]

5 hours ago, piisfish said:

If you want to know what can be done, read the wiki article about the shootings that happened in Serbia 2 weeks ago (specifically the “aftermath “ section)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belgrade_school_shooting
 

 

Also the changes to gun laws in UK after the Dunblane mass shooting, and in Australia after the Port Arthur mass shooting.

It can be done.  All it takes is some backbone by the politicians.

[JoeWeber 2,065]

"A 2-year-old child was struck in the head by an apparent stray bullet Monday at a Utah day care center, authorities said.

The child was taken to Primary Children’s Hospital and was in stable condition and improving as of Wednesday afternoon.

The incident occurred in Spanish Fork, around 50 miles south of Salt Lake City.

A man who was shooting birds in the area west of the daycare center with a .22 caliber air rifle has been identified as a person of interest, Spanish Fork police said Wednesday in a news release."

Shooting birds with a .22 air rifle. Why not?

 

[BIGUN 1,026]

7 hours ago, JoeWeber said:

Shooting birds with a .22 air rifle. Why not?

I don't understand. Pellet guns are a preferred method of hunting small game. 

[JoeWeber 2,065]

3 hours ago, BIGUN said:

I don't understand. Pellet guns are a preferred method of hunting small game. 

Birds? Which ones, Sparrow's, Cardinals? An adult shooting birds with a pellet gun sounds like a sick fuck to me.

[normiss 532]

3 hours ago, BIGUN said:

I don't understand. Pellet guns are a preferred method of hunting small game. 

The Gamo break barrel pump air rifles have a very impressive velocity.

 

[wmw999 1,875]

33 minutes ago, JoeWeber said:

Birds? Which ones, Sparrow's, Cardinals? An adult shooting birds with a pellet gun sounds like a sick fuck to me.

Dove, for one.

Wendy P. 

[normiss 532]

3 minutes ago, wmw999 said:

Dove, for one.

Wendy P. 

Which tends to result in mourning doves.

[BIGUN 1,026]

39 minutes ago, JoeWeber said:

Birds? Which ones, Sparrow's, Cardinals? An adult shooting birds with a pellet gun sounds like a sick fuck to me.

Squirrel, Prairie dog, Pheasant, Rabbit, Groundhog, Turkey, etc. It's actually more sporting than using a shotgun. 

[Phil1111 827]

Well it could have been a very high end air rifle or CO2 rifle using slugs. Here is a more detailed version.

It appears as if the projectile went through a double wall vinyl fence before striking the child..Most high powered .22 cal air rifles top out at 900 f.p.s. with a 10 grain pellet.  Which in countries other than the US would likely require a firearms license.

Hopefully the parents will sue his dumb ass off.

[BIGUN 1,026]

8 minutes ago, Phil1111 said:

Well it could have been a very high end air rifle or CO2 rifle using slugs. Here is a more detailed version.

It appears as if the projectile went through a double wall vinyl fence before striking the child..Most high powered .22 cal air rifles top out at 900 f.p.s. with a 10 grain pellet.  Which in countries other than the US would likely require a firearms license.

Morning, Phil.

Not quite sure what you're trying to get to, but the .22 cal air rifle round is actually .177 and does weigh about 10 grain with a 700-900 f.p.s. Conversely, the actual .22 cal round tops at 40 grain, with a 1260 f.p.s. At 25 yards, the air rifle round can go thru a piece of tin.

At fifty yards, not so much given the light weight and drop. If it had been a full .22 cal - different story with a max effective range of 150 yards and a significant drop after that. 

The good news is the child is expected to make a full recovery. 

[JoeWeber 2,065]

1 hour ago, BIGUN said:

Squirrel, Prairie dog, Pheasant, Rabbit, Groundhog, Turkey, etc. It's actually more sporting than using a shotgun. 

People see things differently, and regionally, but in my neck of the woods squirrels, prairie dogs, rabbits, and ground hogs aren't often thought of as birds and anyone who would shoot a pheasant or a turkey with a .22 pellet gun is not only a sick fuck but his friends are assholes.

[normiss 532]

2 minutes ago, JoeWeber said:

People see things differently, and regionally, but in my neck of the woods squirrels, prairie dogs, rabbits, and ground hogs aren't often thought of as birds and anyone who would shoot a pheasant or a turkey with a .22 pellet gun is not only a sick fuck but his friends are assholes.

After moving from central FL to the mountains in western NC, my views on varmints has changed considerably.

Trash pandas, feral cats, Texas speed bumps, and recently a 7 ft tall (when standing) bear are pretty regular visitors. A pop with a pellet or BB tends to make them shy away from future visits.

It did take a some rather lengthy discussions with some locals here before I started pinging, but I now have a source for free farm fresh eggs! Still getting Skymama used to not refrigerating or washing the eggs.

[BIGUN 1,026]

19 minutes ago, JoeWeber said:

a sick fuck but his friends are assholes.

I just checked the Google Doodle page and sick fuck with asshole friends isn't until June.  

[gowlerk 1,740]

2 hours ago, BIGUN said:

Squirrel, Prairie dog, Pheasant, Rabbit, Groundhog, Turkey, etc. It's actually more sporting than using a shotgun. 

More sporting if wounded small animals is the goal of your sport.

[BIGUN 1,026]

3 minutes ago, gowlerk said:

More sporting if wounded small animals is the goal of your sport.

See. You're catching on. The goal isn't to wound them; it's to kill them. Ya know. To Eat. Not everything comes in saran wrapped packages at your grocery store. And, there's still a lot of folks that need to hunt to feed their families. What do have against poor country folk? 

[gowlerk 1,740]

3 minutes ago, BIGUN said:

See. You're catching on. The goal isn't to wound them; it's to kill them. Ya know. To Eat. Not everything comes in saran wrapped packages at your grocery store. And, there's still a lot of folks that need to hunt to feed their families. What do have against poor country folk? 

Nothin. Let then eat squirrel!