More sacrifices to the 2nd Amendment

[wmw999 1,869]

This one is a little closer to home: Las Vegas shooting

There are so many Las Vegas shootings (and shootings in general) that I had to be more specific to find it. The victim is (effectively) my sister-in-law's god daughter. As in she was the roommate of the woman's mother, and there for the birth, changed the diapers, and has been friends all along. The victim in this case was the support for both her mother (disabled) and grandmother (in an Alzheimer's care home back in Brazil).

She was shot for trying to break up with her boyfriend. Who is, of course, still on the loose, being protected by bros who think this is perfectly OK I'm sure. Her mother was on the way there to pick her up because she didn't feel safe. It hadn't been a long relationship; Tabatha pretty quickly realized he wasn't a great guy. Too late.

My sister in law is beside herself; she spent last week there with her friend (they're still close).

Why should America be special in this particular way?

Wendy P.

[gowlerk 1,738]

3 hours ago, wmw999 said:

Why should America be special in this particular way?

Domestic violence against women is all too disturbingly common in Canada as well. It is depressing.

[kallend 1,490]

9 hours ago, wmw999 said:

 

My sister in law is beside herself; she spent last week there with her friend (they're still close).

Why should America be special in this particular way?

Wendy P.

Because it is being failed by its government.

[JoeWeber 2,057]

7 hours ago, kallend said:

Because it is being failed by its government.

Are you referring to a certain government of the people, by the people, for the people?

[normiss 528]

6 hours ago, JoeWeber said:

Are you referring to a certain government of the people, by the people, for the people?

 

The people that show 70% want better gun control.

[JoeWeber 2,057]

16 minutes ago, normiss said:

 

The people that show 70% want better gun control.

It remains definitional, as ever. I suspect a solid half of those 70% are hoping gun control legislation will stop them from pulling their shots.

[timski 79]

On 5/4/2023 at 5:41 AM, BIGUN said:

Make real sure that's a comparison you want to make. 

The truth is painful.

[timski 79]

On 5/3/2023 at 10:44 PM, JoeWeber said:

That’s horseshit; in fact it’s isolationist horseshit. Worse, it’s nonsense, too. How else can you know how you are doing without comparison? If you aren’t comparing yourself honestly, well, then you are just like Trump: a narcissistic fool. No, our problems are best understood through comparison. 

You are obsoletely correct, you must have something to base your shit show against... I concede. BUT, America's "problems" are uniquely are own, and I stand by my words.    

[timski 79]

16 hours ago, kallend said:

Because it is being failed by its government.

You Charlies call ME part of the problem!!! Keep leaning so hard on uncle sugar and see where that gets us all...WOW! How about Community??? You're serious, Gov't is clearly to blame for all of our social ills.    

[JoeWeber 2,057]

2 hours ago, timski said:

You are obsoletely correct, you must have something to base your shit show against... I concede. BUT, America's "problems" are uniquely are own, and I stand by my words.    

And the Christian Bible is uniquely their own, right? The point being that if you’re going to speak so affirmatively you really should expand not only your time frame but also your understanding of not just our history but also the history of other nations. I could say more but the kids, in their dugout canoes on their way home from school, are coming now and for this nonsense I won’t miss a minute of their laughing at me while I butcher their native tongue.

[JoeWeber 2,057]

18 hours ago, kallend said:

Because it is being failed by its government.

Another mass shooting in Texas. Now back to regular programming.

[timski 79]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/gun-control-guns-are-not-the-problem/ar-AA1aPr2w?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=32540c6e571148efa8a168a581d9001a&ei=28

 

Hey Brent, check this out!!! Apparently we flock together...

[JoeWeber 2,057]

3 minutes ago, timski said:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/gun-control-guns-are-not-the-problem/ar-AA1aPr2w?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=32540c6e571148efa8a168a581d9001a&ei=28

 

Hey Brent, check this out!!! Apparently we flock together...

First: guns do not kill people….. 

…so I need to make a few points that even a Democrat trying to take your guns can understand….

And you want us to believe what about you?

 

[timski 79]

1 minute ago, JoeWeber said:

 

And you want us to believe what about you?

 

I'm the King of bongo baby, I'm the King of bongo...

[kallend 1,490]

4 hours ago, timski said:

I'm the King of bongo baby, I'm the King of bongo...

Mass killings are amusing, eh?

 

You ARE the problem.

[kallend 1,490]

I see Ted Cruz (who has received neary $1/2Million from firearms organizations) once again offered thoughts and prayers to the victims in Allen, TX.  You'd think after the total failure of his previous offerings of the same stuff that he would have learned how useless that is.

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[Phil1111 824]

21 minutes ago, kallend said:

I see Ted Cruz (who has received neary $1/2Million from firearms organizations) once again offered thoughts and prayers to the victims in Allen, TX.  You'd think after the total failure of his previous offerings of the same stuff that he would have learned how useless that is.

 

 

[kallend 1,490]

And Rep. Keith Self (R) in whose district Allen, TX, lies, also offered prayers but opposed any action.

 

Government of the people, by the lobbyists, for the gun industry.

 

[billvon 2,076]

I saw a story this morning about a father who opened fire on a 16 year old kid at a crowded Texas prom party and killed him.  And the article suggested that the police were not pursuing charges against him since the other person drew first.

Which is amazing - that opening fire at a crowded party full of teens is perfectly fine as long as they felt threatened.

So when I got home this afternoon I went to look up "Texas shooting."  And the first thing that popped up was the more recent mass murder at a Texas mall.  So I tried "Texas shooting prom."  That search returned a shooting last week at a Texas prom.  Finally I had to do "Texas prom shooting 16 year old" to find this particular shooting.

There are so many shootings in Texas nowadays that it's hard to find any specific one.  I have to wonder if Texas republicans are even bothering with "thoughts and prayers" any more; it is literally an every day thing now.

[JoeWeber 2,057]

2 hours ago, billvon said:

I saw a story this morning about a father who opened fire on a 16 year old kid at a crowded Texas prom party and killed him.  And the article suggested that the police were not pursuing charges against him since the other person drew first.

Which is amazing - that opening fire at a crowded party full of teens is perfectly fine as long as they felt threatened.

So when I got home this afternoon I went to look up "Texas shooting."  And the first thing that popped up was the more recent mass murder at a Texas mall.  So I tried "Texas shooting prom."  That search returned a shooting last week at a Texas prom.  Finally I had to do "Texas shooting 16 year old" to find this particular shooting.

There are so many shootings in Texas nowadays that it's hard to find any specific one.  I have to wonder if Texas republicans are even bothering with "thoughts and prayers" any more; it is literally an every day thing now.

So, and I know the Thoughts and Prayers crowd will be less than receptive, but I’m lately seeing our current situation with our gun laws, and the superior freedoms owned by American gun lovers, as nothing short of oppression. We are oppressed from speaking freely not only in the public square but from even discussing neighborhood issues with the guy next door. Any public shopping venue could be our last time fetching groceries and any history class could be our child’s last. Oppression from enjoying our freedoms by prospect of being summarily executed in a public place it seems is the true, and sadly the latest reality and legacy, of the American experiment. 

Edited May 8 by JoeWeber

[kallend 1,490]

47 minutes ago, JoeWeber said:

So, and I know the Thoughts and Prayers crowd will be less than receptive, but I’m lately seeing our current situation with our gun laws, and the superior freedoms owned by American gun lovers, as nothing short of oppression. We are oppressed from speaking freely not only in the public square but from even discussing neighborhood issues with the guy next door. Any public shopping venue could be our last time fetching groceries and any history class could be our child’s last. Oppression from enjoying our freedoms by prospect of being summarily executed in a public place it seems is the true, and sadly the latest reality and legacy, of the American experiment. 

So we have a Supreme Court ‘justice’ who is not only incompetent but also clearly corrupt. And what does the system do about him?  SFA!

[Phil1111 824]

Evidently there is a new undiscovered mental health crisis in Texas. Governor Abbott is going all out to find out WTF is going on. Is it the water, the air, the lack of church attendance?

A year ago after the Uvalde shooting "Gov. Greg Abbott said Wednesday that the Uvalde school shooter had a "mental health challenge" and the state needed to "do a better job with mental health" — yet in April he slashed $211 million from the department that oversees mental health programs."

No word yet on how the "challenge" became a "crisis". Perhaps bigger cuts to mental health spending will crush the crisis.

[kallend 1,490]

8 hours ago, Phil1111 said:

Evidently there is a new undiscovered mental health crisis in Texas. Governor Abbott is going all out to find out WTF is going on. Is it the water, the air, the lack of church attendance?

A year ago after the Uvalde shooting "Gov. Greg Abbott said Wednesday that the Uvalde school shooter had a "mental health challenge" and the state needed to "do a better job with mental health" — yet in April he slashed $211 million from the department that oversees mental health programs."

No word yet on how the "challenge" became a "crisis". Perhaps bigger cuts to mental health spending will crush the crisis.

Perhaps it's due to the excessive number of guns easily available to anyone in TX.

[Phil1111 824]

7 hours ago, kallend said:

Perhaps it's due to the excessive number of guns easily available to anyone in TX.

So Washington state has become the 10th state to ban the sale of assault weapons. Obviously its going to the USSC. Where its most likely to be struck down.

Gun restriction after restriction are likely to be struck down by the USSC.

Then what? Given the difficulty of making small changes to gun laws. The chances of constitutional amendments are almost zero.

 

[JoeWeber 2,057]

Excellent. Now some jackass in Louisiana shot blindly at some kids playing hide and seek and hit a 14 year old girl in the back of the head, non life threatening apparently. Shadows scared him into self protection mode. Ridiculous.