More sacrifices to the 2nd Amendment

[billvon 2,396]

3 hours ago, gowlerk said:

Americans can be soooooo annoying sometimes. "We are the leaders of the free world, do as we say and don't criticize us you foreigner you!"

Well, to be fair, no American would ever criticize, say, the policies of Iran or Mexico.

[brenthutch 383]

23 hours ago, Phil1111 said:

 Biden needs to turn his VP loose on the ideas that BIGUN has proposed, as a start.

Right after she solves the border crisis.

[gowlerk 1,911]

Shoot your gun at a six year old and wing him. On purpose. Get out on 10K bail????

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/crime/michigan-boy-shot-bike-neighbour-b1862734.html?utm_content=Echobox&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR0nVk5QqoOqb-cHK3h8mEo0Pg0ZAuiJfo1f0TvASHWpEyK7yafl2iPZR0o#Echobox=1623263347

[billvon 2,396]

2 hours ago, gowlerk said:

Shoot your gun at a six year old and wing him. On purpose.

Well, the kid was black, so it's less of a serious crime there.  Besides, if the kid didn't want to get shot - where was his gun?

[SkyDekker 1,121]

Ironic how the GOP argues the constitution is sacred and really should not be changed.....when it comes to guns.....but then supports restricting the 1st Amendment.

 

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/558375-gop-senator-introduces-constitutional-amendment-to-ban-flag-burning

[timski 80]

On 6/8/2021 at 2:31 PM, gowlerk said:

Americans can be soooooo annoying sometimes. "We are the leaders of the free world, do as we say and don't criticize us you foreigner you!"

I don't know about you, but I'm going to bed with the peace of mind knowing that some kind hearted Canuck's give a rat's ass about my well being, here south of there border. GOD bless America.   

[gowlerk 1,911]

35 minutes ago, timski said:

I don't know about you, but I'm going to bed with the peace of mind knowing that some kind hearted Canuck's give a rat's ass about my well being, here south of there border. GOD bless America.   

Thanks. I'm going to bed in Muscatine, Iowa tonight. Safe in the arms of God and America!

[wolfriverjoe 1,340]

8 hours ago, gowlerk said:

Thanks. I'm going to bed in Muscatine, Iowa tonight. Safe in the arms of God and America!

You'll be fine. How many 'mass shootings' have occurred in truck stop parking lots?

[Phil1111 910]

13 minutes ago, wolfriverjoe said:

You'll be fine. How many 'mass shootings' have occurred in truck stop parking lots?

Holy crap! Are you trying to give him the heebie-jeebies. He has to get back to driving well rested. Have you never watched "The first 48"? Those places are dangerous.

[wolfriverjoe 1,340]

You have to remember that I do the same thing. Drive around the country, sleep in truck stops, rest areas and at customers.

I've been in some pretty shady places. Detroit, Memphis, Cincinnati, Newark.
No problems. Don't wander around after dark, park where there's lots of other trucks, that sort of thing.

The only "First 48" I can think of with a truck driver was the one in Memphis where the driver was killed while parked on the street outside the customer. 
While I have done that (and in Memphis, too), I was outside a place where there was a gate guard on duty all night. And when he suggested I park on the street, he said it was fairly safe as long as I stayed in the truck (don't go wandering around) and that there would be someone on duty the whole night.

I think he's been doing this for a while. He knows what he's doing. 
And Iowa? Muscatine? Sheesh. He's more likely to face a gang of raccoons wanting his food than gangbangers wanting his wallet.

[Phil1111 910]

What happens when you park your A/C in Florida at an airport. I'm sure the engineers in France had a chuckle about guns in America. A month down $6500 in repairs and probably another $15k in loss of value because it has a repair now.

A BULLET HIT MY AIRPLANE!

[kallend 1,623]

46 minutes ago, Phil1111 said:

What happens when you park your A/C in Florida at an airport. I'm sure the engineers in France had a chuckle about guns in America. A month down $6500 in repairs and probably another $15k in loss of value because it has a repair now.

A BULLET HIT MY AIRPLANE!

I doubt the Founding Fathers had this level of stupidity in mind on December 15, 1791.

[riggerrob 558]

On 6/6/2021 at 11:52 AM, brenthutch said:

Now Californians will be able to place their thumb opposite their trigger finger and adjust the length of pull on their ARs.  Sounds absolutely terrifying.

https://images.app.goo.gl/LPfokh1Kke67ccHB9

Some of those "California compliant" firearms look silly.

All of those AR-ish pistols look terminally silly with those buffer tubes sticking out the back of the breech.

[brenthutch 383]

“A hundred and twelve years ago, in 1907...our great grandparents were first able to buy the rifle pictured. The semi-auto Winchester Model 1907.
          This is a gun they could buy from a Sears catalogue and have delivered via US Post. It was/ is a semi-automatic, high powered centerfire rifle, with detachable, high capacity magazine. 
          About 400,000 semi-automatic rifles were produced before WW2. Civilians had hundreds of thousands of these for 40 years, while  US soldiers were still being issued old fashioned bolt action rifles.
           The 1907  fired just as fast as an AR15 or AK47 and the bullet (.351 Winchester) was actually larger than those fired by the more modern looking weapons..
          The ONLY functional difference between the 1907 and a controversial and much feared AR15 is the modern black plastic stock.

        The semi auto, so-called "assault rifle" is 110 years old. It isnt new in any way.
        The semi auto rifle was not a weapon of war. The government MADE IT a weapon of war 40 years after civilians had them.
         The semi-auto can be safely owned by civilians. The proof is that literally 3 generations of adults owned and used them responsibly and no one ever even noticed.
         Want to fix the horror of mass shootings? Fix the things that have changed for the worse in the last 50 years. Family Values,  Prayer from Schools, Ten Commandments from court houses, Spanking Kids, Morals, What is socially acceptable,  Confusion on Genders, Left Wing Liberalism, Socialism, ect.

Cause the rifle technology in question was here long before this insanity.  GOD SAVE THE USA.”
                                     #spreadlove

[billeisele 122]

12 hours ago, brenthutch said:

“A hundred and twelve years ago, in 1907...our great grandparents were first able to buy the rifle pictured. The semi-auto Winchester Model 1907.
          This is a gun they could buy from a Sears catalogue and have delivered via US Post. It was/ is a semi-automatic, high powered centerfire rifle, with detachable, high capacity magazine. 
          About 400,000 semi-automatic rifles were produced before WW2. Civilians had hundreds of thousands of these for 40 years, while  US soldiers were still being issued old fashioned bolt action rifles.
           The 1907  fired just as fast as an AR15 or AK47 and the bullet (.351 Winchester) was actually larger than those fired by the more modern looking weapons..
          The ONLY functional difference between the 1907 and a controversial and much feared AR15 is the modern black plastic stock.

        The semi auto, so-called "assault rifle" is 110 years old. It isnt new in any way.
        The semi auto rifle was not a weapon of war. The government MADE IT a weapon of war 40 years after civilians had them.
         The semi-auto can be safely owned by civilians. The proof is that literally 3 generations of adults owned and used them responsibly and no one ever even noticed.
         Want to fix the horror of mass shootings? Fix the things that have changed for the worse in the last 50 years. Family Values,  Prayer from Schools, Ten Commandments from court houses, Spanking Kids, Morals, What is socially acceptable,  Confusion on Genders, Left Wing Liberalism, Socialism, ect.

Cause the rifle technology in question was here long before this insanity.  GOD SAVE THE USA.”
                                     #spreadlove

Prepare for the onslaught of those that think laws will somehow fix things, you know, just like drug laws have fixed that problem.

[brenthutch 383]

13 minutes ago, billeisele said:

Prepare for the onslaught of those that think laws will somehow fix things, you know, just like drug laws have fixed that problem.

If an onslaught was in the making, it would have happened by now.  I think the truth bomb I dropped has them on their heels.  (Now that I have kicked the bushes, I would expect some caterwauling to ensue)

[billvon 2,396]

1 hour ago, billeisele said:

Prepare for the onslaught of those that think laws will somehow fix things, you know, just like drug laws have fixed that problem.

I know!  Laws against drunk driving don't do squat.  Might as well make that (and murder, and rape) legal.

[kallend 1,623]

7 hours ago, billeisele said:

Prepare for the onslaught of those that think laws will somehow fix things, you know, just like drug laws have fixed that problem.

Criminals don't obey laws, so we may as well scrap all the laws on the books, right?  It would save a lot of paper, time and effort.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Code

[brenthutch 383]

7 hours ago, billvon said:

I know!  Laws against drunk driving don't do squat.  Might as well make that (and murder, and rape) legal.

Banning weapons to prevent murder would be like banning penises to prevent rape.

[phantomII 36]

1 hour ago, brenthutch said:

Banning weapons to prevent murder would be like banning penises to prevent rape.

But both might work

[brenthutch 383]

[olofscience 420]

1 hour ago, brenthutch said:

Just an outsider's perspective, it's weird how Republicans are usually so up in arms about people taking the knee in sports events "because it disrespects veterans", yet at the same time justify the 2nd Amendment because it gives them the ability to kill US Military servicemen (and women).

[teri drao 2]

On 5/11/2021 at 6:25 PM, BIGUN said:

One could overlay a map of those areas with the highest concentration of illicit drug use. 

Or ethnicity

[billeisele 122]

So predictable. Laws on murder, rape, drunk driving and gun use already exist yet it continues. Making more laws will have little to no impact. If strong enforcement and consequences were used, if judges didn't simply drop charges, like they have done with the rioters, and if sentences were upheld, then maybe the number lawbreakers would decrease. Seems that there is little to no attention to the root cause of the violence. Until that is addressed there will be little change. This is not a blue or red problem it's an all citizens problem. 

[wmw999 2,121]

26 minutes ago, billeisele said:

 If strong enforcement and consequences were used, if judges didn't simply drop charges, like they have done with the rioters, and if sentences were upheld, then maybe the number lawbreakers would decrease. Seems that there is little to no attention to the root cause of the violence.

You seem to be implying that the root cause is the lack of post-violence enforcement, which to me translates as a lack of fear. But to me the root cause is the recognition of and anger over the power and financial differential between (in the US at least) most visibly minority groups (read color & facial features) and the diminishing in proportion white “majority.” 
Since demographic and historical evidence seem to support the thought that there is long term and systemic advantages built in for people who are already in power, especially visibly so, I’d have to say that the root cause is there. Removing the underlying reason for someone to riot takes care of most of the riots. Kind of like that tea party in Boston a couple hundred years ago. 
Wendy P.