BIGUN 1,053 #376 March 2, 2021 4 minutes ago, brenthutch said: is this the hill you choose to die on” "The hill you want to die on" is an Idiom used when describing something that will make or break your reputation. Glory or ignominy. To date, you've only provided populist positions/viewpoints against AGW, but have failed to embrace the science of it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zoe Phin 0 #377 March 2, 2021 olof, so help me out here Where is the star here, and where is the planet? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,053 #378 March 2, 2021 6 minutes ago, Zoe Phin said: Where is the star here, and where is the planet? Please stop trying to trip people up. You're not that good at it. https://earthsky.org/space/astronomers-see-baby-planet-pds-70b-growing Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zoe Phin 0 #379 March 2, 2021 I'm asking a sincere question. In that photo where is the star and where is the planet? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
olofscience 421 #380 March 2, 2021 10 minutes ago, Zoe Phin said: I'm asking a sincere question. In that photo where is the star and where is the planet? Can't you read from the image source? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 1,911 #381 March 2, 2021 10 minutes ago, Zoe Phin said: I'm asking a sincere question. In that photo where is the star and where is the planet? So far I have seen no evidence of any level of sincerity in your posts. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zoe Phin 0 #382 March 2, 2021 Help me out, olof. Is the star completely behind the blacked out circle? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
olofscience 421 #383 March 2, 2021 3 minutes ago, gowlerk said: So far I have seen no evidence of any level of sincerity in your posts. Yeah, no comment from her about her obvious attempt at trying to trap which failed miserably: 1 hour ago, Zoe Phin said: Did you like my protoplanets picture? You agree that they're protoplanets right? So, why the sudden pivot back to PDS 70? Have you forgotten about the triple-star system so quickly? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
olofscience 421 #384 March 2, 2021 3 minutes ago, Zoe Phin said: Help me out, olof. Is the star completely behind the blacked out circle? Why should I help you out? You've answered none of my questions. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zoe Phin 0 #385 March 2, 2021 1 minute ago, olofscience said: So, why the sudden pivot back to PDS 70? Have you forgotten about the triple-star system so quickly? I'm getting to that. Answer! : Is the star completely behind the blacked out circle? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,053 #386 March 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, olofscience said: Yeah, no comment from her about her obvious attempt at trying to trap which failed miserably: Well, she admitted to being deceptive. This is getting real old, real quick. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
olofscience 421 #387 March 2, 2021 1 minute ago, Zoe Phin said: I'm getting to that. Answer! : Is the star completely behind the blacked out circle? Get to it then. That's not an answer, that's a question. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zoe Phin 0 #388 March 2, 2021 olof, why can't can't you answer a simple question? It's really simple. I just want confirmation that we're seeing the same thing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
olofscience 421 #389 March 2, 2021 4 minutes ago, Zoe Phin said: I just want confirmation that we're seeing the same thing. You don't need confirmation of seeing the same thing to explain your point, and you've already proved again and again that you're deceptive. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
olofscience 421 #390 March 2, 2021 6 minutes ago, Zoe Phin said: olof, why can't can't you answer a simple question? It's really simple. You only think it's simple because that's the limit of your ability. The black circle marks the position of the star PDS 70, but your question is more specific and that will depend on the specific processing to get the image, which I didn't do. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zoe Phin 0 #391 March 2, 2021 But you agree that the star is approximately the SIZE of that black circle, correct? Or does it fall out of the circle? By how much? Maybe it's diameter is twice that black circle? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
olofscience 421 #392 March 2, 2021 9 minutes ago, Zoe Phin said: But you agree that the star is approximately the SIZE of that black circle, correct? Or does it fall out of the circle? By how much? Maybe it's diameter is twice that black circle? I don't know. I've just emailed one of the astronomers involved, so I'll probably have some answers by next week. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zoe Phin 0 #393 March 2, 2021 (edited) Oh that's good. Because to me it looks like the star and its largest "proto planet" are too close in size. Which would be odd, don't you think? You completely misconstrued my hint with the triple-star system. Sorry if I seemed "deceptive". Edited March 2, 2021 by Zoe Phin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,122 #394 March 2, 2021 4 hours ago, brenthutch said: If that argument made any sense, the South, where slavery was most prevalent, would be the richest region. But they weren’t, so there goes that red herring. Just like the Appalachians is the richest region cause that's where the coal came from. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,122 #395 March 2, 2021 If she is a 10 year Wall Street veteran, why doesn't her name show up in any business publication? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zoe Phin 0 #396 March 2, 2021 5 minutes ago, SkyDekker said: If she is a 10 year Wall Street veteran, why doesn't her name show up in any business publication? Because I wasn't analyzing for plebs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,396 #397 March 2, 2021 18 minutes ago, Zoe Phin said: Oh that's good. Because to me it looks like the star and its largest "proto planet" are too close in size. Which would be odd, don't you think? No. That's an accreting planet. The planetary nebula surrounding it is much bigger than the final planet will be. Once the planet has completely accreted it will be too small to see. Again, a few science courses will help you out here. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,122 #398 March 2, 2021 12 minutes ago, Zoe Phin said: Because I wasn't analyzing for plebs. Sure, that must be the answer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zoe Phin 0 #399 March 2, 2021 15 minutes ago, billvon said: No. That's an accreting planet. The planetary nebula surrounding it is much bigger than the final planet will be. Once the planet has completely accreted it will be too small to see. You do realize that's speculation, right? And the star is not subject to the same speculation? Funny how that works. Lucky that the proto-planet hunters got to it first, because if the triple-star hunters got to it first, it would be a different story. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
olofscience 421 #400 March 2, 2021 39 minutes ago, Zoe Phin said: Because to me it looks like the star and its largest "proto planet" are too close in size. Which would be odd, don't you think? What Billvon said. From the Wikipedia article: Quote The optically thick accretion disk radius is 3.0±0.2 RJ, significantly larger than the planet itself. And it's a large planet: Quote PDS 70b, even as a baby planet, is larger than our solar system’s biggest planet, Jupiter. https://earthsky.org/space/astronomers-see-baby-planet-pds-70b-growing Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
