RiggerLee 61 #26 November 24, 2016 5. McElfish. 6. Sentinel. ????? I suppose 12 out of 14 isn't bad. I do find it a little disturbing that I might have to classify my self as an old guy. I don't think of my self as that old. LeeLee [email protected] www.velocitysportswear.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cpoxon 0 #27 November 24, 2016 RiggerLee5. McElfish. A gear store that closed in 84/85 (I had to Google that one) Quote6. Sentinel. ????? http://parachutehistory.com/process/activation/sentinel.htmlSkydiving Fatalities - Cease not to learn 'til thou cease to live Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joellercoaster 6 #28 November 24, 2016 You can still buy B12s!-- "I'll tell you how all skydivers are judged, . They are judged by the laws of physics." - kkeenan "You jump out, pull the string and either live or die. What's there to be good at? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 558 #29 November 24, 2016 ......... OH, it had a "throw out on the legstrap" with a sh1tload of Velcro. Damn, that 145 eliptical was the smallest state of the art canopy back then. LOL ........................................................................................ You know you are old when choosing your first rig involved a Pappillon or Strato-Star. The Pap' came with a 3-pin ripcord and a belly-mounted reserve. The (180 square foot) Strato-Star came in a piggyback container with the pilot-chute mounted on the belly-band. Your second rig stowed its pilot-chute on the front of the leg strap. It still contained a round reserve but updated the main canopy to a (230 square foot) Strato-Cloud because that was the canopy that was bringing medals home from the world meet. Your third rig stowed its pilot-chute on the back of the leg strap and contained a square reserve. The main was a (220 square foot) Cruislite because that was the height of fashion back in the day. Your fourth rig had a BOC and a Sabre 1-170. Coaches and instructors routinely use a term (wing-loading) that you first wrote in a magazine (CANPARA) article more than 30 years ago. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMitchell 14 #30 November 24, 2016 When you're not quite 60, but you have the knees of a 90 y.o. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
councilman24 36 #31 November 24, 2016 potatomanYou have a couple of frapps lying around in your gear storage. Your rig expired, but you bought it new, but you will never sell it, and yes, it is always packed and ready. Just in case. OH, it had a "throw out on the legstrap" with a sh1tload of Velcro. Damn, that 145 eliptical was the smallest state of the art canopy back then. LOL What front risers? I hook it in......toggle style. Crap, at least three of my rigs still have the velcro for the leg strap through out. That was my 4th main deployment system.I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
councilman24 36 #32 November 24, 2016 JoellercoasterYou can still buy B12s! I still want B-12's. And you do know that's not the same as a B-4 right?I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
councilman24 36 #33 November 24, 2016 377When you still have any one of these: 1. Wind drift indicator. 2. MA-1 pilot chute. 3. Cotton canopy sleeve. 4. Altimeter stopwatch belly panel. 5. Balloon suit. When you know what any one of these is: 1. Cardinal Puff. 2. Capewell. 3. One shot. 4. B12. 5. McElfish. 6. Sentinel. 7. Pucker vent. 8. T-Bow. 9. Navy Conical. Please add to these lists in your replies. 377 Last Hope Rope, and cone lock to go with it. Ripcord stop Pack opening band Double bridle Para-alert Swivel cone Crown lines. L&R Line release I have a McElfish catalog (know where it is) and an invoice somewhere. And a mount with two Para-alerts(one for eaxh ear) as well as my own bought new and two new old stock sets of L&R releases ond one set of NOS R-3 releases I plan on installing.on capewells next year to jump.I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
377 20 #34 November 24, 2016 Tapewells Extended B4 Stevens Cutaway System Chute Shack Western Parachute Supply Altitude Shop Mister Douglas Diaper KAP 3 Twill Sled Barish Snyder Acid Mesh TriConical Sailwing2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dzswoop717 5 #35 November 24, 2016 Joe Smith Parachute Sales and Service OSI on the Delta II Cross Bow piggy back Top Secret Unit Unit II UnitIII If I had the time I could come up with dozens of useless facts about the old days. I'm 54 and have been around the sport for 50 years. What a waste of brain cells remembering all this stuff. I might have made something of myself if I wasn't such an AIR head. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
377 20 #36 November 25, 2016 We have a match! Altitude Shop and Top Secret. Vallejo CA. Rock climbing and skydiving gear and a rigging lift in a downtown retail store. Unique. Miss the old days, but not the canopies. Soooo much better now. 3772018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gb1 2 #37 November 25, 2016 center pull 2 shots Bungee eyelets para boots spider pilot chute 2 piece brand x jumpsuit 3 hole reserve mod cut down B-4 (by Midwest Parachute) loli pop reserve handle shortlined pc with grabber double tri-con rig for low ones (Jay B) T-bow canopy rings and ropes And many more.........I love it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 558 #38 November 25, 2016 Anti-wind Blast handle. Yanta Escape System Irvin Hieght-Finder Streamline Bullet Excalibur West wind EZ-Flyer Six-Pack Ropes and Rings Paradactyl Sleeve Short sleeve Parachute Opening Device Direct bag 5-cell reserves Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pchapman 261 #39 November 25, 2016 riggerrob Tanya Escape System Looks autocorrected from Yanta Escape System, YES! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cpoxon 0 #40 November 25, 2016 councilman24 Last Hope Rope, and cone lock to go with it. Almost posted Jesus string and realised it had already been covered. Skydiving Fatalities - Cease not to learn 'til thou cease to live Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimjumper 25 #41 November 25, 2016 When, not only do you know what a Paralert is, the local gear store sends you the new kid that bought one off of e-bay to show him how to set it! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keithbar 1 #42 November 25, 2016 jimjumper When, not only do you know what a Paralert is, the local gear store sends you the new kid that bought one off of e-bay to show him how to set it! . that should have been a short class. The hardest part of setting a paralert was making sure you always had a coin in your pocketi have on occasion been accused of pulling low . My response. Naw I wasn't low I'm just such a big guy I look closer than I really am . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
obelixtim 100 #43 November 25, 2016 riggerrobAnti-wind Blast handle. Yanta Escape System Irvin Hieght-Finder Streamline Bullet Excalibur West wind EZ-Flyer Six-Pack Ropes and Rings Paradactyl Sleeve Short sleeve Parachute Opening Device Direct bag 5-cell reserves Pack opening bands. Power handle. California SL system. Kicker plate. Volplane.My computer beat me at chess, It was no match for me at kickboxing.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keithbar 1 #44 November 26, 2016 Your presecond cutaway involved a heavyweight strato cloud a pair of r3's and a 26ft navy conical i have on occasion been accused of pulling low . My response. Naw I wasn't low I'm just such a big guy I look closer than I really am . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keithbar 1 #45 November 26, 2016 A few weeks ago you were out to dinner with several of the staff from the dz. you mentioned the passing of Scotty Carbone. And your the only damn one at the table who knows who the hell he was i have on occasion been accused of pulling low . My response. Naw I wasn't low I'm just such a big guy I look closer than I really am . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigMark 1 #46 November 27, 2016 At the time I couldn't believe the Conatser's hired that nucking fut to teach us how to safely jump out of our new Skyvan. The one with no door, and sketchy seatbelts. It was the best thing ever! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rcs 1 #47 November 27, 2016 We all knew Scotty (RIP) back in the old days. He was a legend. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 558 #48 November 29, 2016 BigMarkAt the time I couldn't believe the Conatser's ...... new Skyvan ........ sketchy seatbelts. ..... ............................................................................................ One expects the Conatsers to understand seatbelts more than most. Er ....... maybe their Skyvan arrived without belts and they needed a few weeks to install new belts. You know that you are an old skydiver when ....... the first time you discussed seat-belts - with Transport Canada - you told them that they were 16 years behind the times. ..... and the next time you see TC, you will tell them that they are ignoring bloody lessons learned by Americans a quarter century ago! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DBCOOPER 1 #49 November 29, 2016 When your first jump certificate was issued by PI and it has Jacques-André Istel's name on it.Replying to: Re: Stall On Jump Run Emergency Procedure? by billvon If the plane is unrecoverable then exiting is a very very good idea. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nndefense 4 #50 November 30, 2016 And when you actually know what Talequah Turf Creepers are. Or had a pair like mine. Probably why my feet are crap today. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites