blindguy 0 #1 January 3, 2017 it looks like the real difference between psycho pack and pro pack is how you go from triangle to bag width. Could you not do s-folds with a psycho pack (or a roll for a pro pack)? Most people i see who like psycho pack really like the roll part and not necessarily the rest. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
indyz 1 #2 January 4, 2017 You've got it backwards. The real difference between a psycho pack and a pro pack is rolling vs s-folding. The actual technique used to narrow the canopy isn't important to the final result, as long as the lines are maintained in the center of the pack job. The narrowing technique that a lot of people use for the psycho pack is just more convenient because you put the canopy on the ground "upside down". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JustShhh 0 #3 January 4, 2017 The real difference is laying down the canopy and screwing with the nose.Gary, Gary, Gary, Would you like to play a game? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
timski 80 #4 January 4, 2017 The REAL question is why are you researching the "psycho" pack job? Having trouble getting it into the bag nicely with traditional S folds? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blindguy 0 #5 January 4, 2017 timskiThe REAL question is why are you researching the "psycho" pack job? Having trouble getting it into the bag nicely with traditional S folds? bored at work and it came up on youtube. if youre asking why i bothered to post, i like the way psycho pack exposed the canopy to the wind at the center cell. and actually i like the s-folds so want to psycho pack with an s-fold The main difference i see in psycho is where you flip it and then roll the outer cells, flip it and fold. in pro, you roll the tail then fold. in both cases you are left with the dbag at the top before you roll or fold. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blindguy 0 #6 January 4, 2017 indyzYou've got it backwards. The real difference between a psycho pack and a pro pack is rolling vs s-folding. The actual technique used to narrow the canopy isn't important to the final result, as long as the lines are maintained in the center of the pack job. The narrowing technique that a lot of people use for the psycho pack is just more convenient because you put the canopy on the ground "upside down". psycho pack comes form "cycle pack" and is specifically talking about the narrowing technique, cycling from front to back, the back to front. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
indyz 1 #7 January 5, 2017 blindguy***You've got it backwards. The real difference between a psycho pack and a pro pack is rolling vs s-folding. The actual technique used to narrow the canopy isn't important to the final result, as long as the lines are maintained in the center of the pack job. The narrowing technique that a lot of people use for the psycho pack is just more convenient because you put the canopy on the ground "upside down". psycho pack comes form "cycle pack" and is specifically talking about the narrowing technique, cycling from front to back, the back to front. I hate to pull the old guy skydiver card, but no. You are wrong. http://parachutistonline.com/safety_training/ask_a_rigger/psycho-pack Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blindguy 0 #8 January 5, 2017 Good article. So part of the problem is that the version i saw was different from the original version here. (also see http://www.precision.net/packing.htm). I agree now that at least the original version is just a way to get a pro pack ready to roll. This guy does something different with the narrowing (but still calling it psycho pack), which it what i like. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGyvLfdTH1k&t=624s Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justme12001 0 #9 January 10, 2017 you can expose the nose the same way when PRO packing!. When you are counting cells, count the first four cells(3 with 7 cell) then roll them inward, count the center cell and leave it, count your remaining cells and roll them inward..once both sides are rolled, take the center cell and "open it up" around the two rolls you made. Done Then you can continue to to pro pack as usual. I used to pack my old velo this way. Helped the openings when the line set was getting close to needing to be replaced....calmed it down a little Nothing wrong with phycho packing, but if you are doing it just to expose the nose...you don't have to Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maddingo 21 #10 February 2, 2017 Gave it to a friend not long ago, and he psycho packed it with cells twisted inwards. The longest, softest opening ever. It was actually hilarious how gently it brought me up. Like a little baby. :D Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
damir 1 #11 February 4, 2017 Yes, you can to the S fold instead of the roll. I don't do it my self, but I have seen it done. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 599 #12 February 5, 2017 I have the exact opposite experience. I learned to roll canopies years before I heard of Psycho-Packing. Rolling reduces a confusing pile of fabric to one simple roll that can easily be contained by one hand or one knee. Rolling eases the process of stuffing the canopy into the d-bag. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites