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1 hour ago, ryoder said:

This deserves another post.  From The Specials:
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Rudy!
A message to you Rudy
A message to you

Stop your fooling around
Time to straighten right out
Better think of your future
Else you'll wind up in jail.

Rudy!
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21 minutes ago, billvon said:

This deserves another post.  From The Specials:
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Rudy!
A message to you Rudy
A message to you

Stop your fooling around
Time to straighten right out
Better think of your future
Else you'll wind up in jail.

Rudy!
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Hi Bill,

Re:  Else you'll wind up in jail.

One can only hope.

Jerry Baumchen

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Reuters: Giuliani lawyers attack prosecutors, searches in Ukraine probe

Prosecutors "simply chose to treat a distinguished lawyer as if he was the head of a drug cartel or a terrorist, in order to create maximum prejudicial coverage of both Giuliani, and his most well-known client–-the former President of the United States," the lawyers said.

Exhibit A, 0:23:

 

 

 

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Watkins, the “Q Shaman” Jacob Chansley’s attorney, said his client had Asperger’s syndrome and indicated that Chansley’s mental state — and the impact of Trump’s “propaganda” efforts — would play a role in his case. 

“A lot of these defendants — and I’m going to use this colloquial term, perhaps disrespectfully — but they’re all fucking short-bus people,” Watkins told TPM. “These are people with brain damage, they’re fucking retarded, they’re on the goddamn spectrum.” 

“But they’re our brothers, our sisters, our neighbors, our coworkers — they’re part of our country. These aren’t bad people, they don’t have prior criminal history. Fuck, they were subjected to four-plus years of goddamn propaganda the likes of which the world has not seen since fucking Hitler.” 

TPM: Capitol Rioters’ ‘Trump Defense’ Comes Up Again And Again. Will It Make A Difference?

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4 hours ago, ryoder said:

Letter from Maricopa County to AZ State Senate. 14 page PDF:

Response Letter to President Fann

Hi Robert,

From the letter:  Their failure to understand basic election processes is an indication you didn’t get the best people to perform in your political theatre.

IMO says it all & could not be more correct.

Jerry Baumchen

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2 hours ago, JerryBaumchen said:

Hi Robert,

From the letter:  Their failure to understand basic election processes is an indication you didn’t get the best people to perform in your political theatre.

IMO says it all & could not be more correct.

Jerry Baumchen

I got about 2/3 of the way through reading it. It is obvious they could have hired staff from My Pillow Inc who would have had just as much understanding of voting procedures as "Cyber Ninjas".

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Well, during the recount of the Wisconsin election, the Trump supporters were absolute idiots. 
They broke the rules, objected to trivial things and generally made a mockery of the process. 

https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-joe-biden-donald-trump-wisconsin-elections-dcb7da95578fc7289122c6d372575a9b

I'm not terribly surprised that the crap in Arizona was pretty much the same.

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5 minutes ago, wolfriverjoe said:

Well, during the recount of the Wisconsin election, the Trump supporters were absolute idiots. 
They broke the rules, objected to trivial things and generally made a mockery of the process. 

https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-joe-biden-donald-trump-wisconsin-elections-dcb7da95578fc7289122c6d372575a9b

I'm not terribly surprised that the crap in Arizona was pretty much the same.

When you ain't got nothin' you got nothin' to lose.

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9 hours ago, ryoder said:

I got about 2/3 of the way through reading it. It is obvious they could have hired staff from My Pillow Inc who would have had just as much understanding of voting procedures as "Cyber Ninjas".

Which is the intention. As cartoonishly unqualified as Cyber Ninjas are - lacking any form of expertise, experience or accreditation - to focus on them misses the point. Cyber Ninjas aren't the problem. The republican state legislature that decided Cyber Ninjas were the best company to further their agenda is the problem, because their agenda is to permanently undermine the offices and processes which safeguard the practice of democracy across the state.

 

The republican legislature want to compel Maricopa to hand over access to the routers which handle all confidential government communication to a company too incompetent to know how to properly search for files on a server. They were forced to back down from a plan to have Cyber Ninjas send contractors to people's residences to quiz them about their votes. The same republican party which in Florida says giving water to people waiting in line all day must be outlawed because it could influence their vote, wants to put Arizona citizens on notice that if they vote for the wrong candidate their details will be given to a private out of state security consulting firm who will send guys to their house. Because that couldn't possibly have an effect. The cynicism of the republican legislature in forging ahead with and giving credence to the sham is terrifyingly Orwellian. In an added Kafkaesque twist the republican election administrators who have made and honour a career in civil service by doing their jobs professionally and competently, and standing firm with the truth are the ones being targeted. Republican legislatures are attempting to either replace them with party apparatchiks, make their offices subject to overrule by the legislature, or make them personally liable to felony convictions and huge sentences if they fail to do their jobs perfectly every time with no mistakes. A tactic transparently designed to open them up to threats and coersion from the party bosses the next time they stand in the way of an election being stolen.

 

I keep seeing people saying that the republican shenanigans in lying about the Capitol riot and opposing the Jan 6th commission are because they to sweep it under the rug and make it go away. I disagree. I think they know all their bullshit just keeps Jan 6th in the news and they fucking love it. The longer people keep talking about Jan 6th as 'that time' republicans tried to steal a presidential election the longer it distracts them from noticing that everything republican lawmaker across the country have done since then has been to weaken the laws guarding free and fair elections and cripple the ability of non-partisan offices to safeguard the results. Since January the republican assault on democracy in the USA has been stronger, more coordinated and more successful than anything they did while Trump was still president and they show know signs of stopping.

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6 hours ago, wolfriverjoe said:

I'm not terribly surprised that the crap in Arizona was pretty much the same.

Not exactly. In Arizona they didn't allow those idiots to observe the process, they hired them to carry it out.

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So after all that, the amazing "cyber ninjas" had to admit that they were wrong and they had all the data all along.  They just misplaced it.  

"The private companies hired by Arizona Republicans to audit the 2020 election results admitted Tuesday that the data they accused Maricopa County of deleting had been found."

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/company-conducting-arizona-gop-s-election-audit-backtracks-deleted-database-n1267900

Oh, and the machines the cyber ninjas looked at?  Since they didn't bother to maintain any sort of chain of custody, looks like Arizona will be spending millions to replace them all.  At a cost of about six million dollars.

"Arizona Secretary of State Katie Hobbs told Maricopa County officials in a letter on Thursday that her office may not allow the county to reuse hundreds of vote-counting machines that the county gave the state Senate for its general election audit."

https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/elections/2021/05/20/katie-hobbs-may-not-let-maricopa-co-reuse-voting-machines-after-audit/5185817001/

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38 minutes ago, ryoder said:

The move indicates that District Attorney Cyrus R. Vance Jr.’s investigation of the former president and his business has reached an advanced stage after more than two years. It suggests, too, that Vance believes he has found evidence of a crime — if not by Trump then by someone potentially close to him or by his company.

Vance’s investigation is expansive, according to people familiar the probe and public disclosures made during related litigation. His investigators are scrutinizing Trump’s business practices before he was president, including whether the value of specific properties in the Trump Organization’s real estate portfolio were manipulated in a way that defrauded banks and insurance companies, and if any tax benefits were obtained illegally through unscrupulous asset valuation.

The district attorney also is examining the compensation provided to top Trump Organization executives, people familiar with the matter have said.

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