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13 hours ago, ryoder said:

More lawsuits against Fox, this time by one of their own producers, accusing them of trying to make her a fall guy:

NYT: Fox Producer Says She Was Set Up in Dominion Case

A Fox News producer who has worked with the hosts Maria Bartiromo and Tucker Carlson filed lawsuits against the company in New York and Delaware on Monday, accusing Fox lawyers of coercing her into giving misleading testimony in the continuing legal battle around the network’s coverage of unfounded claims about election fraud.

The producer, Abby Grossberg, said Fox lawyers had tried to position her and Ms. Bartiromo to take the blame for Fox’s repeated airing of conspiracy theories about Dominion Voting Systems and its supposed role in manipulating the results of the 2020 presidential election.

And...Fox just dropped its retaliatory suit against her:

Law & Crime: Fox News drops lawsuit seeking to gag Tucker Carlson producer suing them for discrimination

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From the Manhattan DA to republican congressional leaders:

Your letter dated March 20, 2023 (the "Letter") . . .is an unprecedented inquiry into a pending local prosecution. The Letter only came after Donald Trump created a false expectation that he would be arrested the next day and his lawyers reportedly urged you to intervene.  Neither fact is a legitimate basis for congressional inquiry.

As always, consider how the right would be screaming "IMPEACH!  RIOT!  SECOND AMENDMENT REMEDY!" if democratic leaders had attempted to interfere with, say, the investigation into the Hunter Biden laptop thing.

At the end of the letter, they do a most excellent owning of those leaders.

While the DA's Office will not allow a Congressional investigation to impede the exercise of New York's sovereign police power, this Office will always treat a fellow government entity with due respect.  Therefore, we reguest a meet and confer to understand whether the Committee has any legitimate legislative purpose in the requested materials . . .

I am most eager to see a delegation of the GOP's best and brightest - say, Marjorie Taylor Greene, Lauren Boebert and George Santos - go up against these people.

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12 minutes ago, JerryBaumchen said:

Hi folks,

If you are going stupid, go full-bore:  Trump calls for removal of every top official investigating him | The Hill

What an idiot.

Jerry Baumchen

He’s still working the crowd. It’s all about the numbers; consider the management that bases their judgment on a single variable (eg quarterly earnings) instead of making sure there’s some actual substance

Someday more people will see the emperor has no clothes

Wendy P. 

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17 hours ago, wmw999 said:

He’s still working the crowd.

Yep.  Unfortunately for him that can backfire.  Posting pictures of him threatening the judge with a baseball bat, and calling for "death and destruction" if he's indicted, is getting him treated more like a mafia boss than a politician.   Specifically, the jury will be kept anonymous.

"In these circumstances, this Court is obliged to consider the likely effect on jurors of the matters just described, similar events in the relatively recent past, and the likely future course of events, including the inevitable extensive media coverage. And it cannot properly ignore the significant risk that jurors selected to serve in this case will be affected by concern that they could be targeted for unwanted media attention, outside pressure, and retaliation and harassment from persons unhappy with any verdict that might be returned."

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About 1:30 A.M. today. trump is having dreams about his "perp walk" and life in the big house. Time to make some death threats on prosecutors, potential jurors and others who may have crossed him.

From his media post on Truth Social "

“What kind of person,” Mr. Trump wrote of Mr. Bragg, “can charge another person, in this case a former president of the United States, who got more votes than any sitting president in history, and leading candidate (by far!) for the Republican Party nomination, with a crime, when it is known by all that NO crime has been committed, & also that potential death & destruction in such a false charge could be catastrophic for our country?”

Why & who would do such a thing? Only a degenerate psychopath that truely hates the USA!”  Well he at least knows how to describe the current state of the GOP.

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10 hours ago, JerryBaumchen said:

Hi folks,

Re:  Three-quarters say Trump has either done something illegal (46%) or unethical (29%). Only a quarter (23%) think he's done nothing wrong.

Put me in 46% group.

Poll: Donald Trump has Republican support but independent voters aren't sold : NPR

Waco is not the entire USA.

Jerry Baumchen

Put me down for 75%.

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Regardless of R or D, I genuinely don't understand how anyone can have a favourable opinion of him? Anyone with even a modicum of intelligence can see that he's a liar - he often gives two opposing views in the same sentence. He's openly bigoted, clearly not the sharpest sandwich in the six pack, and a deeply cruel person.

 

Course, I may just have answered my own question.

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10 minutes ago, Stumpy said:

Regardless of R or D, I genuinely don't understand how anyone can have a favourable opinion of him? Anyone with even a modicum of intelligence can see that he's a liar - he often gives two opposing views in the same sentence. He's openly bigoted, clearly not the sharpest sandwich in the six pack, and a deeply cruel person.

 

Course, I may just have answered my own question.

Would these be the same people who, despite all the evidence to the contrary, think more guns means less gun violence?

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34 minutes ago, Stumpy said:

why not both??

The 29% that think he did something 'unethical' think it was something 'wrong', but not 'illegal'. 

30 minutes ago, Stumpy said:

Regardless of R or D, I genuinely don't understand how anyone can have a favourable opinion of him? Anyone with even a modicum of intelligence can see that he's a liar - he often gives two opposing views in the same sentence. He's openly bigoted, clearly not the sharpest sandwich in the six pack, and a deeply cruel person.

 

Course, I may just have answered my own question.

He's a hell of a good conman. Always has been.

There's also the fact that there are a LOT of people that admire that sort of behavior.

Stealing?
Assaulting women?
Mocking the weak?
Calling people rude names?
Openly racist, bigoted & misogynistic?

Many of his supporters aspire to that sort of thing.

They admire him because they want to do it too.

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21 minutes ago, wolfriverjoe said:

The 29% that think he did something 'unethical' think it was something 'wrong', but not 'illegal'. 

He's a hell of a good conman. Always has been.

There's also the fact that there are a LOT of people that admire that sort of behavior.

Stealing?
Assaulting women?
Mocking the weak?
Calling people rude names?
Openly racist, bigoted & misogynistic?

Many of his supporters aspire to that sort of thing.

They admire him because they want to do it too.

Because trump says and does what his followers get mocked, prosecuted and ridiculed for doing. Living vicariously through trump. Their dreams and prayers get answered.

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Douglass Mackey, a supporter of former president Donald Trump who used Twitter to disseminate false information to redirect would-be voters of Hillary Clinton in the 2016 presidential election, was convicted Friday on a charge of conspiracy against rights, the U.S. attorney’s office in Brooklyn announced.

A federal jury issued the verdict after a week-long trial in New York. Mackey, 33, faces 10 years in prison.

“Today’s verdict proves that the defendant’s fraudulent actions crossed a line into criminality and flatly rejects his cynical attempt to use the constitutional right of free speech as a shield for his scheme to subvert the ballot box and suppress the vote,” Breon Peace, the U.S. attorney for the Eastern District of New York, said in a statement.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/03/31/trump-douglass-mackey-guilty-verdict/

 

So in just three days, Trump is indicted, a Delaware Superior Court judge makes a determination that Fox News lied**, and a Trumpist conspiracy promoter is found guilty of his own illegal conspiracy.

Good news week.

** “The evidence developed in this civil proceeding demonstrates that is CRYSTAL clear that none of the Statements relating to Dominion about the 2020 election are true"; Judge Eric M. Davis

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3 hours ago, kallend said:

Douglass Mackey, a supporter of former president Donald Trump...

Good news week.

** “The evidence developed in this civil proceeding demonstrates that is CRYSTAL clear that none of the Statements relating to Dominion about the 2020 election are true"; Judge Eric M. Davis

According to Right Wing news. Its all due to George Soros,  the cabal of Jewish bankers and Jewish Washington power brokers.

Donald Trump ties George Soros to Alvin Bragg. Experts say connection is mischaracterized USA Today story. In other trump news "Kushner firm received hundreds of millions from UAE, Qatar" This follows a several hundred million investment from MBS and the Saudi wealth fund.

For those who have forgotten the Saudi's just made a deal with Iran and Russia. Ostracized by the West, Russia Finds a Partner in Saudi Arabia Meanwhile the Saudis are raking in the cash profiteering from Russia " Top Oil Exporter Saudi Arabia Loads Up on Russian Diesel Saudi Arabia’s imports of diesel from Russia have surged At the same time, the kingdom is sending big amounts to Europe.

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On 3/22/2023 at 7:44 AM, JerryBaumchen said:

Hi folks,

Maybe the worm has turned:  MAGA protesters in Manhattan crowded out by anti-Trump rivals - POLITICO

When they were leading Louis XVI to the guillotine and he heard the cheering, he was convinced his supporters would never let him be executed.  He then realized that they were cheering for his demise.  

Jerry Baumchen

In London, Defendant 1 heard the crowds yelling at his car. He thought they were yelling "Ivanka, Ivanka"...

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Hi folks,

And, more winn . . . Oh, forget it:  A . . . court . . . rejected an emergency bid by former President Donald Trump to block several top aides from testifying

Appeals court rejects Trump's bid to block aides from testifying in Jan. 6 probe - POLITICO

It never seems to stop.  He puts forth a petition to the court(s) and they knock them down.

Rinse, repeat, ad infinitum.

Jerry Baumchen

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2 hours ago, JerryBaumchen said:

Hi folks,

And, more winn . . . Oh, forget it:  A . . . court . . . rejected an emergency bid by former President Donald Trump to block several top aides from testifying

Appeals court rejects Trump's bid to block aides from testifying in Jan. 6 probe - POLITICO

It never seems to stop.  He puts forth a petition to the court(s) and they knock them down.

Rinse, repeat, ad infinitum.

Jerry Baumchen

I don't know if it's been mentioned on here, but I've seen it said elsewhere:

If Trump were innocent, and the testimony of people who have knowledge of the situation would exonerate him, he wouldn't be trying to STOP them from testifying.

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51 minutes ago, wolfriverjoe said:

I don't know if it's been mentioned on here, but I've seen it said elsewhere:

If Trump were innocent, and the testimony of people who have knowledge of the situation would exonerate him, he wouldn't be trying to STOP them from testifying.

The amazing thing about this Trump legal drama is simply the fact that after so many years of lying and cheating so many people this is the first time he has been charged in a criminal court.

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4 minutes ago, gowlerk said:

The amazing thing about this Trump legal drama is simply the fact that after so many years of lying and cheating so many people this is the first time he has been charged in a criminal court.

He isn't able to bribe the prosecutor (or Attorneys General) like he always has.

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