brenthutch 383 #2276 April 5, 2022 “Everyone needs to come to terms with the reality that we’re going to get slaughtered in November,” the strategist reportedly continued. “That’s a fact. His polling has gotten worse not better. It’s indicative of the fact that people have lost confidence in his leadership. There’s nothing they’re going to be able to do.” https://www.allsides.com/news/2022-04-04-0945/we-re-going-get-slaughtered-biden-s-poll-numbers-trigger-panic-mode-democrats Well before November I expect the Ds to start slaughtering each other in a circular firing squad. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billeisele 120 #2277 April 8, 2022 Joe has some wiggling to do to get out of the Hunter foreign business dealings issue. Information in the laptop that became known prior to the election has finally been released. Even Nadler is getting out of the way of this problem. In 2020 Joe flat out stated, he had never been involved in any of Hunters' business dealings. Well, now there is documented evidence that he was directly involved in more than one. I guess a lying politician is not a new thing. What is somewhat new is the tech industry and others that said there was nothing to the laptop, it was Russian disinformation. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,241 #2278 April 8, 2022 12 hours ago, billeisele said: In 2020 Joe flat out stated, he had never been involved in any of Hunters' business dealings. Well, now there is documented evidence that he was directly involved in more than one. What evidence and what involvement? 12 hours ago, billeisele said: I guess a lying politician is not a new thing. What is somewhat new is the tech industry and others that said there was nothing to the laptop, it was Russian disinformation. Who is the tech industry and when did they say that? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,354 #2279 April 8, 2022 16 hours ago, billeisele said: Joe has some wiggling to do to get out of the Hunter foreign business dealings issue. No, he doesn't. His son might. I know you are desperately hoping that by saying it often enough it becomes a big deal. But compared to Trump's slander/rape trial, the investigation into Gaetz's pedophilia coverup, the Ukraine war, inflation, the attacks on women's rights and the Jan 6th trials, it's just not going to work. "But . . . her emails . . . and Hunter's laptop . . . look at them! look at them!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 383 #2280 April 8, 2022 29 minutes ago, billvon said: No, he doesn't. His son might. I know you are desperately hoping that by saying it often enough it becomes a big deal. But compared to Trump's slander/rape trial, the investigation into Gaetz's pedophilia coverup, the Ukraine war, inflation, the attacks on women's rights and the Jan 6th trials, it's just not going to work. "But . . . her emails . . . and Hunter's laptop . . . look at them! look at them!" You forgot the disaster at the border https://morningconsult.com/2022/04/06/biden-approval-rating-immigration-title-42/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bigfalls 110 #2281 April 8, 2022 16 hours ago, billeisele said: In 2020 Joe flat out stated, he had never been involved in any of Hunters' business dealings. Well, now there is documented evidence that he was directly involved in more than one. Are you sure he even remembers anything that long ago? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 383 #2282 April 8, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Bigfalls said: Are you sure he even remembers anything that long ago? If a smoking gun is uncovered Joe’s handlers will argue it can’t be held against him because of his “reduced cognitive function” Edited April 8, 2022 by brenthutch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,098 #2283 April 8, 2022 28 minutes ago, brenthutch said: If a smoking gun is uncovered Joe’s handlers will argue it can’t be held against him because of his “reduced cognitive function” I thought the laptop was the smoking gun. You guys really need to work on your story. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,362 #2284 April 8, 2022 4 hours ago, billvon said: "But . . . her emails . . . and Hunter's laptop . . . look at them! look at them!" According to Andy Borowitz, evidence was found on Hunter's laptop, linking him to Joe Biden! 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,098 #2285 April 8, 2022 2 hours ago, brenthutch said: If a smoking gun is uncovered Joe’s handlers will argue it can’t be held against him because of his “reduced cognitive function” What is the excuse when there is a smoking gun showing Trump's son was planning an insurrection? https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/08/politics/donald-trump-jr-meadows-text/index.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,354 #2286 April 8, 2022 5 minutes ago, SkyDekker said: What is the excuse when there is a smoking gun showing Trump's son was planning an insurrection? "That's completely different! It's not his so . . . uh . . . well OK. It's not like he was talking about a crime. . . . wait . . . .maybe he was joking? It's different because . . . uh . . . hey, how about that laptop, huh?" 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,089 #2287 April 8, 2022 4 minutes ago, billvon said: "That's completely different! It's not his so . . . uh . . . well OK. It's not like he was talking about a crime. . . . wait . . . .maybe he was joking? It's different because . . . uh . . . hey, how about that laptop, huh?" It’s not a crime if you’re taking your own country back. He’s a rich white dude — it’s his country. He just thinks he deserves it Wendy P. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,611 #2288 April 8, 2022 22 hours ago, billeisele said: Joe has some wiggling to do to get out of the Hunter foreign business dealings issue. Information in the laptop that became known prior to the election has finally been released. Even Nadler is getting out of the way of this problem. Stealing from charities and being fined $2 Million for it, and being guilty of fraud and fined $25 million for it - (by courts following due process, with actual evidence, not just innuendo) didn't seem to lead to much wiggling by Trump. Nor did stating clearly on video that he sexually assaulted women and got away with it because of his celebrity. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 383 #2289 April 9, 2022 Looks like we have a terminal case of “whataboutism” today. FYI Trump is no longer President. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,265 #2290 April 9, 2022 1 hour ago, brenthutch said: Looks like we have a terminal case of “whataboutism” today. FYI Trump is no longer President. We have a terminal case on our hands, you've got that right. Yes, Trump is no longer President but have you noticed that he does no longer President somewhat differently than previous no longer Presidents? That's no trivial point. Surely you can see that his actions and, in no small degree, the actions of those in power who yet fear him are both damaging and weakening our current President. For a bonus, are you able to see that your bored efforts at self entertainment contribute to that? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,354 #2291 April 9, 2022 1 hour ago, brenthutch said: FYI Trump is no longer President. And Hunter Biden was NEVER president! Now you've got it! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,265 #2292 April 9, 2022 55 minutes ago, billvon said: And Hunter Biden was NEVER president! Now you've got it! Butt is he transitioning? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billeisele 120 #2293 April 9, 2022 15 hours ago, jakee said: Who is the tech industry and when did they say that? Jakee - if you don't have that basic information then you aren't paying any attention. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billeisele 120 #2294 April 9, 2022 11 hours ago, billvon said: No, he doesn't. His son might. I know you are desperately hoping that by saying it often enough it becomes a big deal. But compared to Trump's slander/rape trial, the investigation into Gaetz's pedophilia coverup, the Ukraine war, inflation, the attacks on women's rights and the Jan 6th trials, it's just not going to work. "But . . . her emails . . . and Hunter's laptop . . . look at them! look at them!" Bill - at some point people need to realize that saying Trump is/was a bigger jerk/slimeball/crook or any other term is not a defense for someone else being a criminal and influence peddler. Even in a simple case of speeding the judge will laugh when one says, "Your honor, the other guy was speeding the same or more than I was", and will slam the gavel while stating that is not a viable defense. Speeding is speeding. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,265 #2295 April 9, 2022 1 minute ago, billeisele said: Bill - at some point people need to realize that saying Trump is/was a bigger jerk/slimeball/crook or any other term is not a defense for someone else being a criminal and influence peddler. Even in a simple case of speeding the judge will laugh when one says, "Your honor, the other guy was speeding the same or more than I was", and will slam the gavel while stating that is not a viable defense. Speeding is speeding. Bill, please consider my post above, (2290), Trump is not playing by the usual rules. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,241 #2296 April 9, 2022 4 hours ago, brenthutch said: Looks like we have a terminal case of “whataboutism” today. FYI Trump is no longer President. Who’s going to be the next Republican candidate? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,241 #2297 April 9, 2022 2 hours ago, billeisele said: Jakee - if you don't have that basic information then you aren't paying any attention. “The tech industry” is a massive, nebulous thing made up of huge numbers of completely unconnected people and companies. When you just say “the tech industry” it’s simply impossible to know who you’re actually talking about. So who is “the tech industry” in your post and when did they say it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,241 #2298 April 9, 2022 1 hour ago, billeisele said: Bill - at some point people need to realize that saying Trump is/was a bigger jerk/slimeball/crook or any other term is not a defense for someone else being a criminal and influence peddler. You misunderstand. Bill’s defence of Joe Biden is that you have no evidence of him being a criminal or influence peddler. Then he’s saying ‘but Trump is and you’ve never seemed to have a problem with that’. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
headoverheels 289 #2299 April 9, 2022 (edited) 13 hours ago, SkyDekker said: I thought the laptop was the smoking gun. You guys really need to work on your story. This is the US. We have lots of guns. Edited April 9, 2022 by headoverheels Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,611 #2300 April 9, 2022 3 hours ago, billeisele said: Bill - at some point people need to realize that saying Trump is/was a bigger jerk/slimeball/crook or any other term is not a defense for someone else being a criminal and influence peddler. Even in a simple case of speeding the judge will laugh when one says, "Your honor, the other guy was speeding the same or more than I was", and will slam the gavel while stating that is not a viable defense. Speeding is speeding. You've been around for a while. How about linking to some of your posts where you criticized Trump for PROVABLE misdeeds - like fraud and admitted sexual assault. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites