gowlerk 1,902 #1601 October 28, 2021 23 minutes ago, billvon said: Higher prices = tight oil becomes profitable = American wells can produce at a profit again = more jobs = more production = lower prices. Which of those do you abhor? Apparently not everyone believes in the free market. Oil prices have always been highly cyclical. The pandemic fall in demand and price now has a mirror image. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
olofscience 420 #1602 October 28, 2021 28 minutes ago, billvon said: Higher prices = tight oil becomes profitable = American wells can produce at a profit again = more jobs = more production = lower prices. Which of those do you abhor? In fact, Alberta's been suffering lately because of low oil prices. High oil prices would make the oil sands viable again. Of course, the troll is forgetting that it's Saudi Arabia who took a wrecking ball to oil prices last year targeting Russia: 2020 Russia - Saudi Arabia oil price war Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 1,902 #1603 October 28, 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, olofscience said: In fact, Alberta's been suffering lately because of low oil prices. High oil prices would make the oil sands viable again. I believe that existing mines are still viable even at lower prices. But the cost of expansion is too high. The uncertainty over long range pricing and the difficulty of getting the product to market will combine to limit their output to something similar to current levels for the time being. Edited October 28, 2021 by gowlerk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 908 #1604 October 28, 2021 38 minutes ago, olofscience said: In fact, Alberta's been suffering lately because of low oil prices. High oil prices would make the oil sands viable again.... Alberta Aug. 2021 "Production averaged 3.53 million barrels per day between January and June — 5.7 per cent higher than during the same period in 2020 and 1.8 per cent above the same period in 2019, said a release from ATB Economics on Wednesday. The vast majority of that production — 86 per cent — is accounted for by oilsands extraction" and 'Suncor’s Oil Sands operations cash operating costs(1) per barrel are expected to reduce by 8% to $26.00 - $28.50" Selling for an average of $58/bbl in Sept/21 The $30-38 dollar profit per bbl at current prices is being mainly used to reduce debt. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 383 #1605 October 31, 2021 https://nypost.com/2021/10/31/54-disapprove-of-biden-71-say-us-heading-in-wrong-direction-poll/ When Tony Blinken was asked what the US has done to combat climate change, he replied (without laughing) “we greatly increased our aspirations”. This entire administration is a complete mess, Afghanistan, the border crisis, COVID, economy, inflation, energy….on an on. They can’t even legislate with control of both chambers of congress. A Democratic strategist on MTP said if McKuliffe and/or Murphy loose in the “blue” states of VA and NJ then it is “Katie bar the door” and the end of the Biden presidency. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,294 #1606 October 31, 2021 11 minutes ago, brenthutch said: https://nypost.com/2021/10/31/54-disapprove-of-biden-71-say-us-heading-in-wrong-direction-poll/ When Tony Blinken was asked what the US has done to combat climate change, he replied (without laughing) “we greatly increased our aspirations”. This entire administration is a complete mess, Afghanistan, the border crisis, COVID, economy, inflation, energy….on an on. They can’t even legislate with control of both chambers of congress. A Democratic strategist on MTP said if McKuliffe and/or Murphy loose in the “blue” states of VA and NJ then it is “Katie bar the door” and the end of the Biden presidency. The D's do not really control the Senate and Biden's Presidency started to end on his first day in office. One of the silly games you play here is claiming that you didn't like/want/vote for etc.. the bad orange man. Whatever he's doing well or not we are vastly better off with him than Trump. That was the choice. There was no door number 3 and I'm terribly sorry that you didn't get your favorite toy in your stocking. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GeorgiaDon 340 #1607 October 31, 2021 (edited) It was Trump that signed a "peace treaty" with the Taliban that committed the US to leaving. Reversing that would necessarily have involved outright war with the Taliban, with a huge increase in US troops in Afghanistan and associated casualties. It was Trump who cut the Afghanistan government out of the peace negotiations. Trump did everything possible to undermine the Afghanistan government. The collapse of the government is on Trump. Yet somehow now it is all on Biden? Conservatives/republicans have done just about everything in their power to encourage their followers to reject vaccination against Covid. They do not care that people, mostly in their "base", will die or suffer long term disability. No cost is too much, as long as they can prolong the pandemic and blame Biden. What do Republicans have to offer for policy? Cult worship of a leader who has displayed over and over that he cares for nothing but himself. Censorship of education so students cannot even be taught that slavery was bad and has had lasting consequences. If you teach about the Holocaust you have to teach "both sides". What does that even mean? The worst attack on the peaceful transition of power in the country's history is rewritten as a tourist visit. They fabricate lies about the election to create doubt in their followers, and use that doubt to justify voter suppression laws. The worst part of it is that so many gullible voters are falling for it. All you have to do to win in Trumpistan, it seems, is to lie and obstruct. Edited October 31, 2021 by GeorgiaDon 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 383 #1608 October 31, 2021 1 hour ago, GeorgiaDon said: It was Trump that signed a "peace treaty" with the Taliban that committed the US to leaving. Reversing that would necessarily have involved outright war with the Taliban, with a huge increase in US troops in Afghanistan and associated casualties. It was Trump who cut the Afghanistan government out of the peace negotiations. Trump did everything possible to undermine the Afghanistan government. The collapse of the government is on Trump. Yet somehow now it is all on Biden? Ok, I will grant Biden was dealt a poor hand in Afghanistan, that said he played it very poorly. What about the border? What about infrastructure? Energy independence? Crime? COVID? https://nypost.com/2021/10/28/florida-gov-ron-desantis-has-shown-how-to-handle-covid-19/ Just what has Biden actually done? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GeorgiaDon 340 #1609 October 31, 2021 (edited) Airlifting 130,000 people out of the Kabul airport in two weeks was an impressive accomplishment despite the chaos. Trump made no plans at all to get anyone out, and his administration did everything in their power to obstruct anyone from getting out. The Biden administration starting telling US citizens in March to get out, but many did not try until after the Taliban had seized most of all of the country and made movement impossible. Some idiots even traveled from the US to Afghanistan in June and July, then bleated and whined when they could not get out. Many others traveled to Afghanistan without registering with the State Department. Yet somehow it is Biden's fault that he did not know every US citizen in Afghanistan, exactly where they were, and send in the Marines to forcefully extract them? Regarding the border, the US government has no authority to go into Mexico and use force to block people from coming to the border. People have a legal right to present themselves at the border and ask for asylum. It's not Biden's fault that Central America experienced two major hurricane in less than a year, destroying their agriculture, infrastructure, and the homes of hundreds of thousands of people. It is not Biden's fault that Haiti is a corrupt hell hole that is also prone to earthquakes. It is not Biden's fault that Trump withdrew every program to help those countries improve conditions so people would not feel they have to leave so they won't starve. US law allows people to ask for asylum. The Trump policy of blocking people from any meaningful opportunity to ask for asylum was illegal. The Trump policy of breaking up families to scare people away from asking was deeply immoral. I sometimes think some Republicans would be comfortable forcing families back into a burning building if they aren't the "right kind" of people. I don't say that sneaking across the border should be tolerated. I don't suggest that the Biden administration's response has been great. However it doesn't help that Trump decimated the human infrastructure needed to process asylum applicants. It's easy to be critical but if anyone cares to be fair they should be able to say how they would have responded to a huge surge of asylum seekers with fewer resources. As far as infrastructure is concerned, I think what we are seeing now with the Democrats is how things are supposed to work. People are debating ideas, working to convince their colleagues about the validity of their policies. In the end no one will get everything they want but what will survive will represent the things everyone agrees is a priority. The debate should include Republicans but they are incapable of weighing competing ideas in an honest debate. Perhaps this inability has something to do with them throwing out their brains and filling their heads with Trump's lies. They criticize actual debate because they only know how to abdicate to Dear Leader in all things. At any rate they are absent from the discussion, happy to only obstruct and criticize. They cannot lead, they only whine. Edited October 31, 2021 by GeorgiaDon 6 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,380 #1610 October 31, 2021 45 minutes ago, GeorgiaDon said: I sometimes think some Republicans would be comfortable forcing families back into a burning building if they aren't the "right kind" of people. "Why should it be my problem if they decide to burn their own buildings down? They can live with the results of their decisions. They are used to fires anyway; it always burned down there before." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 383 #1611 October 31, 2021 52 minutes ago, GeorgiaDon said: Airlifting 130,000 people out of the Kabul airport in two weeks was an impressive accomplishment despite the chaos. Trump made no plans at all to get anyone out, and his administration did everything in their power to obstruct anyone from getting out. The Biden administration starting telling US citizens in March to get out, but many did not try until after the Taliban had seized most of all of the country and made movement impossible. Some idiots even traveled from the US to Afghanistan in June and July, then bleated and whined when they could not get out. Many others traveled to Afghanistan without registering with the State Department. Yet somehow it is Biden's fault that he did not know every US citizen in Afghanistan, exactly where they were, and send in the Marines to forcefully extract them? Regarding the border, the US government has no authority to go into Mexico and use force to block people from coming to the border. People have a legal right to present themselves at the border and ask for asylum. It's not Biden's fault that Central America experienced two major hurricane in less than a year, destroying their agriculture, infrastructure, and the homes of hundreds of thousands of people. It is not Biden's fault that Haiti is a corrupt hell hole that is also prone to earthquakes. It is not Biden's fault that Trump withdrew every program to help those countries improve conditions so people would not feel they have to leave so they won't starve. US law allows people to ask for asylum. The Trump policy of blocking people from any meaningful opportunity to ask for asylum was illegal. The Trump policy of breaking up families to scare people away from asking was deeply immoral. I sometimes think some Republicans would be comfortable forcing families back into a burning building if they aren't the "right kind" of people. I don't say that sneaking across the border should be tolerated. I don't suggest that the Biden administration's response has been great. However it doesn't help that Trump decimated the human infrastructure needed to process asylum applicants. It's easy to be critical but if anyone cares to be fair they should be able to say how they would have responded to a huge surge of asylum seekers with fewer resources. As far as infrastructure is concerned, I think what we are seeing now with the Democrats is how things are supposed to work. People are debating ideas, working to convince their colleagues about the validity of their policies. In the end no one will get everything they want but what will survive will represent the things everyone agrees is a priority. The debate should include Republicans but they are incapable of weighing competing ideas in an honest debate. Perhaps this inability has something to do with them throwing out their brains and filling their heads with Trump's lies. They criticize actual debate because they only know how to abdicate to Dear Leader in all things. At any rate they are absent from the discussion, happy to only obstruct and criticize. They cannot lead, they only whine. 54 minutes ago, GeorgiaDon said: Airlifting 130,000 people out of the Kabul airport in two weeks was an impressive accomplishment despite the chaos. Yes you are correct and we should give credit where credit is due. # of evacuees by county: Qatar 40,000 UAE 36,500 UK 17,000 Germany 5300 Canada 3700 France 2834 ”you’re doing a hell of a job Brandon” Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,294 #1612 November 1, 2021 2 hours ago, brenthutch said: Yes you are correct and we should give credit where credit is due. # of evacuees by county: Qatar 40,000 UAE 36,500 UK 17,000 Germany 5300 Canada 3700 France 2834 ”you’re doing a hell of a job Brandon” You think you're being clever, but you aren't. You think you're being funny, but you aren't. What you are doing, as ever, is projecting. You wore a US Military uniform for twenty years and yet you seem not to care if our democracy or our nations institutions are torn down for the sake of a few silly, small picture observations and hackneyed points. Biden's election broke the chain. That's enough. Now, if you truly care about our country, our job is to make certain Trump is finally swept away into history's dust bin. The reality is that if we end up with Trump 2.0 it will be thanks to people like you. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 383 #1613 November 1, 2021 (edited) 8 hours ago, JoeWeber said: You think you're being clever, but you aren't. You think you're being funny, but you aren't. What you are doing, as ever, is projecting. You wore a US Military uniform for twenty years and yet you seem not to care if our democracy or our nations institutions are torn down for the sake of a few silly, small picture observations and hackneyed points. Biden's election broke the chain. That's enough. I’m afraid Biden’s election has energized the right and his performance (or lack there of) has demoralized the left. Unfortunately this makes Trump more relevant than he would otherwise be. Edited November 1, 2021 by brenthutch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 383 #1614 November 1, 2021 (edited) https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=video&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjoz4unlvfzAhWkVN8KHVhKCUkQtwJ6BAgIEAM&url=https%3A%2F%2Fvideo.foxnews.com%2Fv%2F6279754563001%2F&usg=AOvVaw3Q5odzrJcH3qPYpeNjaf5M The Biden presidency is no more, has ceased to be, bereft of life, it rests in peace! Edited November 1, 2021 by brenthutch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 185 #1615 November 1, 2021 1 hour ago, brenthutch said: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=video&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjoz4unlvfzAhWkVN8KHVhKCUkQtwJ6BAgIEAM&url=https%3A%2F%2Fvideo.foxnews.com%2Fv%2F6279754563001%2F&usg=AOvVaw3Q5odzrJcH3qPYpeNjaf5M The Biden presidency is no more, has ceased to be, bereft of life, it rests in peace! It would have been nice, after enduring 4 years of Trump, to have someone competent at the top. Better luck next time, eh? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
murps2000 86 #1616 November 1, 2021 2 hours ago, brenthutch said: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=video&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjoz4unlvfzAhWkVN8KHVhKCUkQtwJ6BAgIEAM&url=https%3A%2F%2Fvideo.foxnews.com%2Fv%2F6279754563001%2F&usg=AOvVaw3Q5odzrJcH3qPYpeNjaf5M The Biden presidency is no more, has ceased to be, bereft of life, it rests in peace! Lol Steve Hilton says it so it must be true. May as well ask sean hannity what he thinks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,294 #1617 November 1, 2021 4 hours ago, brenthutch said: I’m afraid Biden’s election has energized the right and his performance (or lack there of) has demoralized the left. Unfortunately this makes Trump more relevant than he would otherwise be. I am not demoralized by Biden's performance. I am incredibly frustrated by the stupidity, selfishness and lack of foresight by the so called House Progressive Caucus led by Congresswoman Jayapal and Senators Manchin and Sinema. They could be handing Biden a very successful and effective Presidency. Instead they are kneecapping the Democratic Party and, quite likely, handing the Republicans their hoped for 1000 Year Reich. Now, one area I am happy to agree that Biden screwed the pooch was in appointing Mr. Roberts as Attorney General when who we really need now is Attila the Hun. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,380 #1618 November 1, 2021 3 hours ago, brenthutch said: The Biden presidency is no more, has ceased to be, bereft of life, it rests in peace! Cool! Now you can stop whining about it. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 383 #1619 November 1, 2021 (edited) 45 minutes ago, billvon said: Cool! Now you can stop whining about it. Don’t worry Bill, it will all be over in about forty months. You can thank Phill for opening up this thread. Until then, check out the video of Biden napping during COP26 https://www.trendsmap.com/twitter/tweet/1455195062405632007 Edited November 1, 2021 by brenthutch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,046 #1620 November 1, 2021 1 hour ago, JoeWeber said: I am not demoralized by Biden's performance. I am incredibly frustrated by the stupidity, selfishness and lack of foresight by the so called House Progressive Caucus led by Congresswoman Jayapal and Senators Manchin and Sinema. They could be handing Biden a very successful and effective Presidency. Instead they are kneecapping the Democratic Party and, quite likely, handing the Republicans their hoped for 1000 Year Reich. Now, one area I am happy to agree that Biden screwed the pooch was in appointing Mr. Roberts as Attorney General when who we really need now is Attila the Hun. Hi Joe, Of course, you mean: Merrick Garland - Wikipedia The rest, I agree with. Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,294 #1621 November 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, JerryBaumchen said: Hi Joe, Of course, you mean: Merrick Garland - Wikipedia The rest, I agree with. Jerry Baumchen Sorry. I meant Mr. Rogers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,380 #1622 November 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, JerryBaumchen said: Hi Joe, Of course, you mean: Merrick Garland - Wikipedia The rest, I agree with. Jerry Baumchen I think he meant to say Mr Rogers, as in Mister Rogers' Neighborhood Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,046 #1623 November 1, 2021 17 minutes ago, JoeWeber said: Sorry. I meant Mr. Rogers. Hi Joe, IMO that is a low blow. Neither you nor I know what discussions Biden had with Garland before selecting him. I am of the opinion that he told him that he did not want to look back; only forward. Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,294 #1624 November 1, 2021 7 minutes ago, JerryBaumchen said: Hi Joe, IMO that is a low blow. Neither you nor I know what discussions Biden had with Garland before selecting him. I am of the opinion that he told him that he did not want to look back; only forward. Jerry Baumchen Well, good then. It certainly wasn't meant as a high compliment for either of them. 10 months ago, and on live TV, that bastard Trump fomented insurrection against the government of the United States and did so while being the sitting President. Now he is fluffing his feathers prepping for a 2024 run when Garland should be clipping his wings. Time is slipping by, Congressional elections are just around the bend and it's time to do something even if it's wrong. Otherwise just hand the keys to McConnell and get used to the new world order. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 383 #1625 November 1, 2021 (edited) Manchin just killed the reconciliation bill. Either the progressives fold or the infrastructure bill is dead as well. https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/01/politics/joe-manchin-biden-agenda/index.html Edited November 1, 2021 by brenthutch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
